JEDCJT Posted August 18, 2009 Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 "Bah. You underestimate us. Drakoria will not fall as easily as you think." OOC: Never underestimate Bavaria. IC: "So....a war is going to break out in Europe, again? Oh, poor Europe and Europeans." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loannes Posted August 18, 2009 Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 OOC: Never underestimate Bavaria. OOC: Never underestimate Drakoria, either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynneth Posted August 18, 2009 Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 "If the Commonwealth agrees to public elections (OOC: Read: Forum vote. ), then everything will be fine. Additionally, we are tiring of the rethoric Drakoria throws around. We have the military power to crush almost any single nation, save for Rebel Army or Viniland, despite our relatively small size. Would you really want to unleash this warmachine?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loannes Posted August 18, 2009 Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 "If the Commonwealth agrees to public elections (OOC: Read: Forum vote. ), then everything will be fine. Additionally, we are tiring of the rethoric Drakoria throws around. We have the military power to crush almost any single nation, save for Rebel Army or Viniland, despite our relatively small size. Would you really want to unleash this warmachine?" "Is that a threat?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynneth Posted August 18, 2009 Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 "Is that a threat?" "This is a statement." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voodoo Nova Posted August 18, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 "If the Commonwealth agrees to public elections (OOC: Read: Forum vote. ), then everything will be fine. Additionally, we are tiring of the rethoric Drakoria throws around. We have the military power to crush almost any single nation, save for Rebel Army or Viniland, despite our relatively small size. Would you really want to unleash this warmachine?" OOC: Forum votes are highly biased ways of doing public elections in CNRP. You know that. IC: Will Bavaria do a public election as well to ensure that the Austrian/Slovene people want to be apart of Bavaria? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loannes Posted August 18, 2009 Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 "This is a statement." "An aggressive statement. There's no hiding the threatening undertone to that sentence." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadowsage Posted August 18, 2009 Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 "If Bavaria wanted to hide it, would they have drawn attention to their military prowess? Hardly." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarah Tintagyl Posted August 18, 2009 Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 (edited) EDIT: NVM. Edited August 18, 2009 by Sarah Tintagyl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loannes Posted August 18, 2009 Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 OOC: Forum votes are waaaaaaay too OOC biased. How many times has anyone here voted in favor of someone they OOCly disliked? Plus, people who don't even CNRP will vote in the poll. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sargun II Posted August 18, 2009 Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 OOC: Remember that vote Sumeragi held for Korea? She PMed all her buddies to vote for her. Polls are basically asking for a rigging. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarah Tintagyl Posted August 18, 2009 Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 OOC: Edited sorry for bringing it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynneth Posted August 18, 2009 Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 OOC: Forum votes are highly biased ways of doing public elections in CNRP. You know that.IC: Will Bavaria do a public election as well to ensure that the Austrian/Slovene people want to be apart of Bavaria? OOC: Obviously, those who voted would have to post, IC or OOC, depending on what they wanted. OOC just to say "I voted this", IC to make a citizen's statement "I voted this because I think.." etc. Neutrality would be encouraged, but everyone is biased in some way or another. How else would we do this? I'll do a vote if you do, otherwise I'll follow your example and say the people are happy with bavaria, and obviously don't want a nation to themselves, etc. IC: "We are, in fact, currently setting up a vote, though it will most likely be postponed until the threat of war is over. If you agree to hold a vote in Hungary, we shall hold one in Austria/Slovenia. Should the region decide to join, then it will be annexed into the respective nation. Should they decide against it, the territory shall become a joint protectorate of the Commonwealth, Serbia and Bavaria. For the votes, we would propose the following: The Austrians and Slovenian regions will have the options 1; Join Bavaria 2; Do not join The Hungarians will have the options 1; Join the Commonwealth 2; Join Serbia 3; Become a protectorate The additional option - joining serbia - because they are contesting your claims of Hungary and you are contesting theirs. Simple majority rules; Those who get the majority win. Is this acceptable?" "An aggressive statement. There's no hiding the threatening undertone to that sentence." "There is no need to hide anything." We'd love to see a public election...one for the Commonwealth...one for Bavaria...and I believe Serbia has tried to move into the area peacefully...one for them as well. "As stated previously, we are already preparing a vore." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loannes Posted August 18, 2009 Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 "There is no need to hide anything." "Then why call it a statement if you acknowledge it is a threat? And don't claim you only recognized it as an aggressive statement, the two are almost the exact same." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynneth Posted August 18, 2009 Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 "Then why call it a statement if you acknowledge it is a threat? And don't claim you only recognized it as an aggressive statement, the two are almost the exact same." "It was a statement that we have the power to win against many nations in the world. After that followed the simple question if you wanted that power against you. A statement followed by a question. No more, no less." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king cjc Posted August 18, 2009 Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 "Serbia agrees to a fair and democratic election over the future of Hungary" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mergerberger II Posted August 18, 2009 Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 The Commonwealth refuses to allow foreign entities to decide its fate, and thus will not participate in such an election. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justinian the Mighty Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 Native citizens are foreign entities now? Interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Terra Di Agea Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 The Commonwealth refuses to allow foreign entities to decide its fate, and thus will not participate in such an election. "There has never been a mention of letting foreign nations choose. By the looks of the Bavarian suggestion, they are saying the people in the territory should vote on their own fate." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loannes Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 Native citizens are foreign entities now? Interesting. "There has never been a mention of letting foreign nations choose. By the looks of the Bavarian suggestion, they are saying the people in the territory should vote on their own fate." "I believe they mean that they don't like Bavaria setting up that election." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lavo Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 "I believe they mean that they don't like Bavaria setting up that election." "In that case, we would like to petition that a neutral nation, such as Viniland or the Hansa, to set up and manage the polls. We [OOC: RA] personally believe that the people should be able to choose their own path, without external influences breathing down their backs." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V The King Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 "In that case, we would like to petition that a neutral nation, such as Viniland or the Hansa, to set up and manage the polls. We [OOC: RA] personally believe that the people should be able to choose their own path, without external influences breathing down their backs." "Viniland has wide experience with setting up, conducting and checking elections within its protectorate, doing so successfully even when there were ideological or ethnic tensions. It'd be of no hassle to do the same in Hungary as we have no alliances in the continent - unless European nations prefer an European party to do so (although most seem to be aligned with a side or has unclear or dubious intentions)". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loannes Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 "Viniland has wide experience with setting up, conducting and checking elections within its protectorate, doing so successfully even when there were ideological or ethnic tensions. It'd be of no hassle to do the same in Hungary as we have no alliances in the continent - unless European nations prefer an European party to do so (although most seem to be aligned with a side or has unclear or dubious intentions)". "We thank you for your offer. However, Bavaria's ultimatum has already expired, and as they seem intent on fulfilling it, we will await their movements." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynneth Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 "Viniland has wide experience with setting up, conducting and checking elections within its protectorate, doing so successfully even when there were ideological or ethnic tensions. It'd be of no hassle to do the same in Hungary as we have no alliances in the continent - unless European nations prefer an European party to do so (although most seem to be aligned with a side or has unclear or dubious intentions)". "We would gladly see Viniland or the Hansa setting up the elections, not only to eleminate bias, but also because few would contest the outcome if they organised it. Regarding the Ultimatum, it has been postponed for the time being. Should the elections be conducted, it will be void. Should no elections happen in Hungary, then we will recognise the Commonwealth invading the Lubeck protectorate and seizing territory from a sovereign nation which we are friendly with, which, obviously, will have consequences." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtleknifewielder Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 "This is utterly ridiculous. Can't Europe go more than a few years without some major conflict springing up? the ethnicities and rivalries there ensure almost constant strife, and we urge the Commonwealth to accept the offer of neutral Viniland in this matter." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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