Haflinger Posted September 11, 2009 Report Share Posted September 11, 2009 I got 99% at (-68, 73) Yes I moved it to that spot exactly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_268 Posted September 11, 2009 Report Share Posted September 11, 2009 (edited) Yup, i just got 99% at ( Lat -67.892, and Long 73.806 ) It has to be somewhere in this area, must be right under our noses!!!! Edited September 11, 2009 by john_268 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PATRIOT15 Posted September 12, 2009 Report Share Posted September 12, 2009 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonnygozy Posted September 13, 2009 Report Share Posted September 13, 2009 -67.95, 73.4 also 99%. 100% area might be really, really small. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steelrat Posted September 14, 2009 Report Share Posted September 14, 2009 (edited) WARNING ADMIN CHANGED THE COORD SYSTEM to (X;Y) in the link but displays as (Y;X) Location=Moon&Type=Colony&lon=71.76&lat=-68.44&VALUE=520208E04D New DATA Lon=X=71.76 Lat=Y=-68.44 Effi=99% and Lon=X=70.56 Lat=Y=-67.15 Effi=99% Please someone try this coords Point A Lon=X=69.43 Lat=Y=-65.94 Point B Lon=X=73.24 Lat=Y=-70.18 Point C Lon=X=70.48 Lat=Y=-69.14 Edited September 14, 2009 by Steelrat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammykhalifa Posted September 14, 2009 Report Share Posted September 14, 2009 WARNING ADMIN CHANGED THE COORD SYSTEM to (X;Y) in the link but displays as (Y;X)Please someone try this coords Point A Lon=X=69.43 Lat=Y=-65.94 98% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeJeezy Posted September 14, 2009 Report Share Posted September 14, 2009 I'll try point B tomorrow when I can move my Colony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wooster Posted September 14, 2009 Report Share Posted September 14, 2009 Point CLon=X=70.48 Lat=Y=-69.14 99% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammykhalifa Posted September 14, 2009 Report Share Posted September 14, 2009 I'm starting to think that 100% is one pixel large. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steelrat Posted September 14, 2009 Report Share Posted September 14, 2009 (edited) @Wooster, please give me your exact coords as i have a reliable source that the exact coords of point C are 98% only Point C:Location: 70.48000, -69.41000 is 98% Data for A and B Point ALon=X=69.43 Lat=Y=-65.94 Point B Lon=X=73.24 Lat=Y=-70.18 both 98% Please be exact when you type in the coords into the URL. According to the new data it looks like that the 100% area seems very small, but for a good triangulation with X% points we need to know at least how big the 99% area is and i can´t see any other option as to use a stupid Newton interpolation to find that out. Based on that you can calc a formular for each X% with it´s range and it´s error. Check update Edited September 15, 2009 by Steelrat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_268 Posted September 14, 2009 Report Share Posted September 14, 2009 These are the locations for bose my base and colony both getting 99%. Hope they help out!! Base Effectiveness: 99% Last Moved: 9/11/2009 Date Purchased: 8/11/2009 Expires: 566 Days Location: -67.89209, 73.80615 Colony Effectiveness: 99% Citizens: 12010 Last Moved: 9/14/2009 Date Purchased: 9/14/2009 Expires: 450 Days Location: -67.87554, 73.12500 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wooster Posted September 14, 2009 Report Share Posted September 14, 2009 @Wooster, please give me your exact coords as i have a reliable source that the exact coords of point C are 98% only Location: -69.14000, 70.48000 The quote you have from Bob Janova is for -69.41, mine is -69.14. Your original post said -69.14 but I see now on your attached image it says -69.41 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steelrat Posted September 15, 2009 Report Share Posted September 15, 2009 (edited) Location: -69.14000, 70.48000The quote you have from Bob Janova is for -69.41, mine is -69.14. Your original post said -69.14 but I see now on your attached image it says -69.41 Perfect, that helps a lot and thanks for finding my typo. I will update my data with your info. Center 98% points Lon=X=72.166 Lat=Y=-67.558 Center 99% points Lon=X=72.123 Lat=Y=-68.209 New set, please try them Point D Lon=X=70.120 Lat=Y=-66.350 Point E Lon=X=73.410 Lat=Y=-66.310 Point F Lon=X=72.170 Lat=Y=-69.900 Point G Lon=X=74.500 Lat=Y=-68.000 Edited September 15, 2009 by Steelrat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haflinger Posted September 15, 2009 Report Share Posted September 15, 2009 -69.28726, 73.47656 is also 99% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeJeezy Posted September 15, 2009 Report Share Posted September 15, 2009 Point F is 98% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naros Posted September 15, 2009 Report Share Posted September 15, 2009 Is there a thread like this for Mars? If there is, I can't find it and I would appreciate me if you'd point me towards it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Irwin Posted September 17, 2009 Report Share Posted September 17, 2009 (edited) Frist of all, I'm not sure that your chart is accurate. It appears that you are creating circles based off of lat and long being equal. I thought it was determined earlier to be more likely based on surface distance? Second of all...BINGO! Owner: King IrwinMine Effectiveness: 100% Resource: Titanium Last Moved: 9/16/2009 Date Purchased: 8/31/2009 Expires: 434 Days Location: -68.00000, 72.00000 Edit: @Naros: No, I have not seen a Martian version of this thread either, which really surprsies me. This has been very beneficial for us Lunar types. Edited September 17, 2009 by King Irwin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeJeezy Posted September 17, 2009 Report Share Posted September 17, 2009 gj, now we only have to do it again in 14 days Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonnygozy Posted September 17, 2009 Report Share Posted September 17, 2009 (edited) Wow, nice work! I guess we should focus on integers from now on, that should make things a lot easier. I tried -68.000, 72.001 out of curiosity and got 99%, so I'm guessing it's at the integers only or needs to be even closer. And I'm surprised about no Mars version of what we're doing. We do have almost 400 moon bases to the 150 or so mars bases, but that still seems like enough to get things going, maybe not as fast as us but better than going on your own. Frist of all, I'm not sure that your chart is accurate. It appears that you are creating circles based off of lat and long being equal. I thought it was determined earlier to be more likely based on surface distance?Second of all...BINGO! Edit: @Naros: No, I have not seen a Martian version of this thread either, which really surprsies me. This has been very beneficial for us Lunar types. Edited September 17, 2009 by jonnygozy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshuaR Posted September 17, 2009 Report Share Posted September 17, 2009 hah, nicely done. I was going to suggest we stop doing math and just look at the map picture, assuming admin'd pick a cool spot. I was going to say, maybe between the two blue circles (elevation view). But yeah, integers is pretty smart, too... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steelrat Posted September 17, 2009 Report Share Posted September 17, 2009 (edited) Frist of all, I'm not sure that your chart is accurate. It appears that you are creating circles based off of lat and long being equal. I thought it was determined earlier to be more likely based on surface distance? Looks like that if you include the distances of other points with different efficiencies. According to my data the 99% radius is at least 2 and only one 98% point does not fit into that. The 98% point in question is Lon=X=72.170, Lat=Y=-69.900, lets see if Admin use plain radii or spherical distances. New points to try, please test them out Point A Lon=X=70.5970 Lat=Y=-66.5970 Point B Lon=X=69.9900 Lat=Y=-68.0000 Point C Lon=X=72.0000 Lat=Y=-66.0500 Point D Lon=X=72.0000 Lat=Y=-69.9000 Edited September 17, 2009 by Steelrat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steodonn Posted September 17, 2009 Report Share Posted September 17, 2009 IIRC correctly someone did maths and said the moon base is better than the mars version Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee Shock Posted September 17, 2009 Report Share Posted September 17, 2009 moon radius in yards = 1899606 distance to hotspot in yards = ARCCOS(SIN(base_lat*PI/180)*SIN(hotspot_lat*PI/180)+COS(base_lat*PI/180)*COS(hotspot_lat*PI/180)*COS((hotspot_lon*PI/180)-(base_lon*PI/180))) * moon radius in yards efficiency = ROUNDDOWN((1 - (distance to hotspot in yards / 4000000)) * 100) B) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poach Posted September 17, 2009 Report Share Posted September 17, 2009 Just a quick not on why graphing in this manner is acceptably accurate: 1 radian = arc length / radius To convert that to degrees, 1 rad = 180 / Pi Latitude is the angle from a point on the earths surface to the equatorial plane as measured from the center of the Earth (sphere) Longitude is the angle east or west of the reference meridian. This means that as long as you are graphing the angle, and not the distance, the plot is accurate. Of more interest to me is the error in calculating distance. I compared all three of the great circle equation, haversin equation, and vincenty's formula and had differences between the 3 of less than 1km (yes, I was using metric since it's generally easier to do math with). I had trouble getting open office / excel to sufficiently iterate vincenty's so I'm not sure if I have good numbers for that (and I'm not about to go through it 100+ times by hand). The moon is much more spherical than the Earth is (0.00125 vs. 0.0033528) so the great circle equation should be sufficiently accurate here anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Zakharov Posted September 18, 2009 Report Share Posted September 18, 2009 Is dragging the locator the only way to move the base? It doesn't seem to display what the new coordinates are, how do I know where I'm moving to? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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