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WARNING ADMIN CHANGED THE COORD SYSTEM to (X;Y) in the link but displays as (Y;X)

Location=Moon&Type=Colony&lon=71.76&lat=-68.44&VALUE=520208E04D

New DATA

Lon=X=71.76

Lat=Y=-68.44

Effi=99%

and

Lon=X=70.56

Lat=Y=-67.15

Effi=99%

Please someone try this coords

Point A

Lon=X=69.43

Lat=Y=-65.94

Point B

Lon=X=73.24

Lat=Y=-70.18

Point C

Lon=X=70.48

Lat=Y=-69.14

septemberhotspot02bmwm.jpg

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@Wooster, please give me your exact coords as i have a reliable source that the exact coords of point C are 98% only

Point C:

Location: 70.48000, -69.41000

is 98%

Data for

A and B

Point A

Lon=X=69.43

Lat=Y=-65.94

Point B

Lon=X=73.24

Lat=Y=-70.18

both 98%

Please be exact when you type in the coords into the URL.

According to the new data it looks like that the 100% area seems very small, but for a good triangulation with X% points we need to know at least how big the 99% area is and i can´t see any other option as to use a stupid Newton interpolation to find that out.

Based on that you can calc a formular for each X% with it´s range and it´s error.

Check update

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These are the locations for bose my base and colony both getting 99%. Hope they help out!!

Base Effectiveness: 99%

Last Moved: 9/11/2009

Date Purchased: 8/11/2009

Expires: 566 Days

Location: -67.89209, 73.80615

Colony Effectiveness: 99%

Citizens: 12010

Last Moved: 9/14/2009

Date Purchased: 9/14/2009

Expires: 450 Days

Location: -67.87554, 73.12500

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@Wooster, please give me your exact coords as i have a reliable source that the exact coords of point C are 98% only

Location: -69.14000, 70.48000

The quote you have from Bob Janova is for -69.41, mine is -69.14. Your original post said -69.14 but I see now on your attached image it says -69.41

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Location: -69.14000, 70.48000

The quote you have from Bob Janova is for -69.41, mine is -69.14. Your original post said -69.14 but I see now on your attached image it says -69.41

Perfect, that helps a lot and thanks for finding my typo. I will update my data with your info.

Center 98% points

Lon=X=72.166

Lat=Y=-67.558

Center 99% points

Lon=X=72.123

Lat=Y=-68.209

New set, please try them

Point D

Lon=X=70.120

Lat=Y=-66.350

Point E

Lon=X=73.410

Lat=Y=-66.310

Point F

Lon=X=72.170

Lat=Y=-69.900

Point G

Lon=X=74.500

Lat=Y=-68.000

septemberhotspot06a43z.jpg

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Frist of all, I'm not sure that your chart is accurate. It appears that you are creating circles based off of lat and long being equal. I thought it was determined earlier to be more likely based on surface distance?

Second of all...BINGO!

Owner: King Irwin

Mine Effectiveness: 100%

Resource: Titanium

Last Moved: 9/16/2009

Date Purchased: 8/31/2009

Expires: 434 Days

Location: -68.00000, 72.00000

Edit: @Naros: No, I have not seen a Martian version of this thread either, which really surprsies me. This has been very beneficial for us Lunar types.

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Wow, nice work! I guess we should focus on integers from now on, that should make things a lot easier. I tried -68.000, 72.001 out of curiosity and got 99%, so I'm guessing it's at the integers only or needs to be even closer.

And I'm surprised about no Mars version of what we're doing. We do have almost 400 moon bases to the 150 or so mars bases, but that still seems like enough to get things going, maybe not as fast as us but better than going on your own.

Frist of all, I'm not sure that your chart is accurate. It appears that you are creating circles based off of lat and long being equal. I thought it was determined earlier to be more likely based on surface distance?

Second of all...BINGO!

Edit: @Naros: No, I have not seen a Martian version of this thread either, which really surprsies me. This has been very beneficial for us Lunar types.

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Frist of all, I'm not sure that your chart is accurate. It appears that you are creating circles based off of lat and long being equal. I thought it was determined earlier to be more likely based on surface distance?

Looks like that if you include the distances of other points with different efficiencies.

According to my data the 99% radius is at least 2 and only one 98% point does not fit into that. The 98% point in question is Lon=X=72.170, Lat=Y=-69.900, lets see if Admin use plain radii or spherical distances.

New points to try, please test them out

Point A

Lon=X=70.5970

Lat=Y=-66.5970

Point B

Lon=X=69.9900

Lat=Y=-68.0000

Point C

Lon=X=72.0000

Lat=Y=-66.0500

Point D

Lon=X=72.0000

Lat=Y=-69.9000

septemberhotspot07aczt.jpg

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Just a quick not on why graphing in this manner is acceptably accurate:

180px-Radian_cropped_color.svg.png

1 radian = arc length / radius

To convert that to degrees, 1 rad = 180 / Pi

Latitude is the angle from a point on the earths surface to the equatorial plane as measured from the center of the Earth (sphere)

Longitude is the angle east or west of the reference meridian.

This means that as long as you are graphing the angle, and not the distance, the plot is accurate.

Of more interest to me is the error in calculating distance. I compared all three of the great circle equation, haversin equation, and vincenty's formula and had differences between the 3 of less than 1km (yes, I was using metric since it's generally easier to do math with). I had trouble getting open office / excel to sufficiently iterate vincenty's so I'm not sure if I have good numbers for that (and I'm not about to go through it 100+ times by hand). The moon is much more spherical than the Earth is (0.00125 vs. 0.0033528) so the great circle equation should be sufficiently accurate here anyway.

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