Uberstein Posted July 31, 2009 Report Share Posted July 31, 2009 Or, it could be that we trust each other enough not to dick around with stuff such as that. "Or, perhaps you have a war planned already and you simply wanted to try and look good diplomatically?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JEDCJT Posted July 31, 2009 Report Share Posted July 31, 2009 "Or, perhaps you have a war planned already and you simply wanted to try and look good diplomatically?" "Hm, this may be a possibility, but let's hope it doesn't go that way." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biohazard Posted July 31, 2009 Report Share Posted July 31, 2009 "Hm, this may be a possibility, but let's hope it doesn't go that way." If war becomes the only option, then yes, that option will be taken. However, we will continue to try non-violent ways to stop any such war. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Executive Minister Posted July 31, 2009 Report Share Posted July 31, 2009 (edited) It is extremely entertaining to watch weak-stomached nations call their crusades 'the propagation of human rights and democracy" in order for their nations' citizenry and leadership to sleep at night. Do not be ashamed of what you are, embrace what you really want to do and announce it openly! You want to destroy this annoying thorn in your side, situated on that Fascist little boot in Europe. Others may call us such things as Bloodthirsty. A Terror-state with Draconian beliefs. Those are names nations give to we few who are capable and willed enough to do the killing others cannot stomach without showing any remorse or other weakness - a pityful attempt at making us seem better or worse in their eyes. We know what we are and what we do and do not hide behind foolish ideals or grandstanding. OOC: This entire issue is very, very promising Edited July 31, 2009 by Executive Minister Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mergerberger II Posted July 31, 2009 Report Share Posted July 31, 2009 How long will it be until this Triangle attacks Monarchies in the name of Democracy and 'Freedom'? I would like to prepare my defenses for that time, thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cataduanes Posted July 31, 2009 Report Share Posted July 31, 2009 (edited) "And the factions begin again. I do sincerely hope that this pact is purely for solidification and not for power grabs as other nations have addressed. Diversity must begin with respect and diplomacy and I hope that the Southern Triangle will use those tools in the future. So that the demons of the past are not re birthed from their graves." It is not about land grabbing, this is about making a stand on certain principles. "I wonder when they'll go after Monarchs." thought King Edward. If Monarchs rule with respect for human rights i see no reason to worry. "A clear power grab, but what can one expect of these nations. Imperialists in everything but name. If this pact were truly for preserving their 'democracy', then they would not need mutual aggression. Last I checked, forcing someone to come to war with you isn't very democratic." -PM Gustafsson. That is baseless slander, democracy sometimes needs to be defended and in certain situations offense is the best defense. It is extremely entertaining to watch weak-stomached nations call their crusades 'the propagation of human rights and democracy" in order for their nations' citizenry and leadership to sleep at night.Do not be ashamed of what you are, embrace what you really want to do and announce it openly! You want to destroy this annoying thorn in your side, situated on that Fascist little boot in Europe. Others may call us such things as Bloodthirsty. A Terror-state with Draconian beliefs. Those are names nations give to we few who are capable and willed enough to do the killing others cannot stomach without showing any remorse or other weakness - a pityful attempt at making us seem better or worse in their eyes. We know what we are and what we do and do not hide behind foolish ideals or grandstanding. OOC: This entire issue is very, very promising Shameless propaganda!, your propaganda is transparent and will have little impact on our solidarity nor our belief in defending human rights and propagating democracy in Europe. OOC: Indeed How long will it be until this Triangle attacks Monarchies in the name of Democracy and 'Freedom'? I would like to prepare my defenses for that time, thank you. As stated before if monarchs rule with fairness and respect for human rights there is no reason to feel ambivalent. Only those who inflict wanton oppression on their citizens will be at odds with us. Edited July 31, 2009 by Cataduanes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loannes Posted July 31, 2009 Report Share Posted July 31, 2009 How long will it be until this Triangle attacks Monarchies in the name of Democracy and 'Freedom'? I would like to prepare my defenses for that time, thank you. The king and his advisors tensed at this implication... As stated before if monarchs rule with fairness and respect for human rights there is no reason to feel ambivalent. Only those who inflict wanton oppression on their citizens will be at odds with us. ...and only slightly relaxed at this. OOC: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynneth Posted July 31, 2009 Report Share Posted July 31, 2009 If Monarchs rule with respect for human rights i see no reason to worry.Shameless propaganda!, your propaganda is transparent and will have little impact on our solidarity nor our belief in defending human rights and propagating democracy in Europe. OOC: Indeed As stated before if monarchs rule with fairness and respect for human rights there is no reason to feel ambivalent. Only those who inflict wanton oppression on their citizens will be at odds with us. "I rule as I see fit. No silly 'coalition' will force me to change my way, let that be known. And I'm quite sure that many people within Bavaria are likely to agree with me - they actually like the new state of the country." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Centurius Posted July 31, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 31, 2009 "I rule as I see fit. No silly 'coalition' will force me to change my way, let that be known.And I'm quite sure that many people within Bavaria are likely to agree with me - they actually like the new state of the country." You don't kill innocent Civilians? You have nothing to fear then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynneth Posted July 31, 2009 Report Share Posted July 31, 2009 (edited) You don't kill innocent Civilians? You have nothing to fear then. "The term Innocent Civilian may be defined differently in Bavaria than in Croatia. That is all I would like to say about that." Edited July 31, 2009 by Lynneth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franz Ferdinand Posted July 31, 2009 Report Share Posted July 31, 2009 With this pact signed, Lübeck has started to prepare for the inevitable, a war from the south. "You declare yourself a force for 'democracy', whatever that is, yet however, you have plans to unlawfully force your enemies to bend over backwards for you. How can you justify this at all?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cataduanes Posted July 31, 2009 Report Share Posted July 31, 2009 (edited) With this pact signed, Lübeck has started to prepare for the inevitable, a war from the south."You declare yourself a force for 'democracy', whatever that is, yet however, you have plans to unlawfully force your enemies to bend over backwards for you. How can you justify this at all?" War is not inevitable, it is curious to us to see the almost panicked reactions in some quarters. Europe has nothing to fear from the spread of democratic values. Edited July 31, 2009 by Cataduanes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franz Ferdinand Posted July 31, 2009 Report Share Posted July 31, 2009 War is not inevitable, it is curious to us to see the almost panicked reactions in some quarters. Europe has nothing to fear from the spread of democratic values. "Yet what about the aggressive behaviour shown by Greater Croatia towards Bavaria. I'm certain that they wouldn't see this pact as a good thing." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Centurius Posted July 31, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 31, 2009 "Yet what about the aggressive behaviour shown by Greater Croatia towards Bavaria. I'm certain that they wouldn't see this pact as a good thing." Agressive behavior following agressive behavior by Bavarians. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cataduanes Posted July 31, 2009 Report Share Posted July 31, 2009 Obviously there is the issue of Koper as well as the bloackade crisis. We remain hopeful that talks will be able to diffuse the tension and perhaps allow for some amicable compromise to be reached. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynneth Posted July 31, 2009 Report Share Posted July 31, 2009 Agressive behavior following agressive behavior by Bavarians. "Following aggressive behaviour towards the Republic of Italy." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Centurius Posted July 31, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 31, 2009 "Following aggressive behaviour towards the Republic of Italy." Which you had no allegiance with or even contact before leading us to believe the only reason you defend them is to cause war in Europe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabioviejo Posted July 31, 2009 Report Share Posted July 31, 2009 For those who want peace, freedom, real religion, liberties and basic human rights you must look elsewhere than Europe. King Kristian I feels offended. Hes working his beautiful behind off to get all these things in Sverige................ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynneth Posted July 31, 2009 Report Share Posted July 31, 2009 Which you had no allegiance with or even contact before leading us to believe the only reason you defend them is to cause war in Europe. "In fact, we did have regular contact and trade with Italy. Some of it was kept secret, some not. That is irrelevant however, as we still feel the blockade is not justified." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Centurius Posted July 31, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 31, 2009 "In fact, we did have regular contact and trade with Italy. Some of it was kept secret, some not. That is irrelevant however, as we still feel the blockade is not justified." Then discuss it diplomatically in the forum the Prussians have proposed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Executive Minister Posted July 31, 2009 Report Share Posted July 31, 2009 (edited) Which you had no allegiance with or even contact before leading us to believe the only reason you defend them is to cause war in Europe. Is the Proud(IC: ) nation of Croatia so self-righteous and foolhardy to believe that it and only it is fit to bring peace to Europe? Edited July 31, 2009 by Executive Minister Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cataduanes Posted July 31, 2009 Report Share Posted July 31, 2009 Is the Proud(IC: ) nation of Croatia so self-righteous and foolhardy to believe that it and only it is fit to bring peace to Europe? That is a deliberately provocative question, the goals of the Southern Triangle have already been made clear (propagation of democracy and defense of human rights) and the Croatian leadership has made no statement alluding to any belief that only Croatia alone is fit or can ensure peace in Europe. We respectfully ask you to base future criticism on fact and not baseless slander. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynneth Posted July 31, 2009 Report Share Posted July 31, 2009 propagation of democracy and defense of human rights "You are aware that human rights may be defined differently in verious states, yes?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cataduanes Posted July 31, 2009 Report Share Posted July 31, 2009 That has become increasingly clear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Terra Di Agea Posted July 31, 2009 Report Share Posted July 31, 2009 The Republic of Euzkadi is pleased to have secured this pact, we are confident that the Southern Triangle will form the basis for the propagation of human rights and democratic values in Southern Europe. "Not that we hold ourselves to any higher stage of democracy, we find this statement laughable. How can a pact help up by two empires be a guiding light for democracy?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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