Will Y Wonka Posted November 2, 2007 Report Share Posted November 2, 2007 I support this change.Ive lost over 46K NS, and though the short term looks bleak, I think this is an excellent change. Larger nations now have something to spend their money on and It'll support the idea of actually buying infrastructure again. Also, infrastructure= money... and this makes the game more realistic because in the real world money=power. Power = Power Power uses money to make more Power Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revelation Posted November 2, 2007 Report Share Posted November 2, 2007 (edited) never mind. Edited November 2, 2007 by Revelation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solunsford Posted November 2, 2007 Report Share Posted November 2, 2007 (edited) I support this change.Ive lost over 46K NS, and though the short term looks bleak, I think this is an excellent change. Larger nations now have something to spend their money on and It'll support the idea of actually buying infrastructure again. Also, infrastructure= money... and this makes the game more realistic because in the real world money=power. You didn't lose massively in the rankings, you're number 25. I dropped about 800 nations in the rankings. It's easy to be indifferent when you didn't get dropped like many people did. The people at your level are pretty equally tech heavy. Edited November 2, 2007 by Solunsford Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feardaram Posted November 2, 2007 Report Share Posted November 2, 2007 i lost 40K NS lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diskord Posted November 2, 2007 Report Share Posted November 2, 2007 (edited) It was really fun waiting 125 days to get nukes. A few days after i could finally buy them the admins curb stomp my nation. Now it will take me another 125 days to get them back. Wow if i knew tech was going to be worthless in a few months i would not have spent all my money on it trying to get nukes.I think in real life this is call a recession. If my opinion is unclear i think this was a bad move on the admins part. Just for the record, after looking at your nation you realize that if you purchased 12 airplanes... you would be back in nuke range right? 12 level 9 planes that is. Edited November 2, 2007 by diskord Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewho Posted November 2, 2007 Report Share Posted November 2, 2007 (edited) For the monsterous nations that are over 5,000 infra, its obviously not as big of a deal to them. They have grown and now they have the option to attack people who are only 2,000 infra. Pretty stunning that someone who can hold 100,000 soldiers can attack someone who maxes out at 10,0000 soldiers. Also they are at the point where they will remain in the top 5 percent for a very long time. They are also collecting millions a day. Starting out as a new nation already takes forever without assistance from friends. Now its just going to be rediculous trying to start from scratch. The gap between the veterans in the noobs has grown substantially with this change. And since the change completely killed the market value of tech, that gap will remain and only continue to grow unless there is a price change to go along with it. Edited November 2, 2007 by thewho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revelation Posted November 2, 2007 Report Share Posted November 2, 2007 For the monsterous nations that are over 5,000 infra, its obviously not as big of a deal to them. They have grown and now they have the option to attack people who are only 2,000 infra. Pretty stunning that someone who can hold 100,000 soldiers can attack someone who maxes out at 10,0000 soldiers. Also they are at the point where they will remain in the top 5 percent for a very long time. They are also collecting millions a day. Starting out as a new nation already takes forever without assistance from friends. Now its just going to be rediculous trying to start from scratch. The gap between the veterans in the noobs has grown substantially with this change. And since the change completely killed the value of tech, that gap will remain and only continue to grow. Two words...............curb stomp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idriveavw Posted November 2, 2007 Report Share Posted November 2, 2007 Really, then why did my rank dropped a full percentage point? OMG! not a whole percentage point! mine dropped more than 2% points. then ten minutes later i was back up a full percent. you need to wait until everyone has updated. also, gaining in the rankings shouldn't be as difficult now, as you don't have people buying loads of tech overnight to artificially inflate their NS just to become nuke capable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewho Posted November 2, 2007 Report Share Posted November 2, 2007 I wouldn't bother asking 3 mil for 100 tech anymore. The market value of 100 tech is now a whopping 750,000. Don't spend it all in one place kids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Y Wonka Posted November 2, 2007 Report Share Posted November 2, 2007 Two words...............curb stomp. Who you want me to curb stomp rev? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hakim Posted November 2, 2007 Report Share Posted November 2, 2007 what does the actions taken and the numbers asscoiated with it on your nation page mean? It just showed up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veritas Posted November 2, 2007 Report Share Posted November 2, 2007 This is why the change is f'ed up yesterday i was 40k ns higher than this kid now i'm lower than him. Check out our nations which one do you think should be ranked higher http://cybernations.net/nation_drill_displ...Nation_ID=53783 or http://cybernations.net/nation_drill_displ...Nation_ID=10697 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamer42_au Posted November 2, 2007 Report Share Posted November 2, 2007 Also, anyone bawwing, new rule:I lost 41K NS and think this is a good change. Unless you lost more than that, your right to complain is null and void. We will call it the "Diskord no bawwwing rule"... and since NS changes have been made, there is a good chance you are in my NS range now... don't think I won't use military force to enfore this new rule. > Hey, I lost about 50K NS and I am not complaining either. Mind you I am in the GPA, so I won't use military force in relation to this. But if Diskord wants to raise his bar, I will be neutral on that Seriously tech was overstated in its effect on NS. Which meant mis-matches in eligible targets in war. The 5% level (for nukes) is now about 27K NS - this is much easier to reach in many ways than the old (high tech) target, even though tech component is less valuable. There are some interesting political aspects to these changes. Including whether the FTLOGTOTC anti-nuke treaty will make a resurgence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hakim Posted November 2, 2007 Report Share Posted November 2, 2007 He has more tanks than you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veritas Posted November 2, 2007 Report Share Posted November 2, 2007 The problem with this update is by lowering the value of tech it raises the effect of military i can raise my ns by 10k any instant i feel like it when i have 140k ns that wasn't that big a deal but now that i only have 60k that's a large percentage. Look up and see the 2 nations i posted i have 1.2k more inf and 2k more tech yet his ns is higher but ns is supposed to be more accurate now!?!?!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veritas Posted November 2, 2007 Report Share Posted November 2, 2007 (edited) Bingo! that's my point exactly. Just for fun i calculated how many tanks i could buy right now if there was no limit it's 1,234,700 but he has more tanks than me so he should be ranked higher xD. Edited November 2, 2007 by Veritas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamer42_au Posted November 2, 2007 Report Share Posted November 2, 2007 This is why the change is f'ed up yesterday i was 40k ns higher than this kid now i'm lower than him. Check out our nations which one do you think should be ranked higher http://cybernations.net/nation_drill_displ...Nation_ID=53783or http://cybernations.net/nation_drill_displ...Nation_ID=10697 Any time you want to bother to pass him in NS, you could. His NS is pumped up by a military which is costing him lots of cash. Match the military and you would be far ahead. Alternatively keep growing your nation and slowly go past him anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sanders Posted November 2, 2007 Report Share Posted November 2, 2007 The problem with this update is by lowering the value of tech it raises the effect of military i can raise my ns by 10k any instant i feel like it when i have 140k ns that wasn't that big a deal but now that i only have 60k that's a large percentage. Look up and see the 2 nations i posted i have 1.2k more inf and 2k more tech yet his ns is higher but ns is supposed to be more accurate now!?!?!? The tanks and soldiers you have should be worth what they are, they certainly influence wars more than tech does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veritas Posted November 2, 2007 Report Share Posted November 2, 2007 No they don't because i like i said i could buy 1.2million tanks this minute if there was no limit. The amount of military you have on hand means nothing as long as you can't get anarchied before you log in. -Veritas P.S. Anyway gtg be on in a few hours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hakim Posted November 2, 2007 Report Share Posted November 2, 2007 Who you want me to curb stomp rev? Why am I being limited to 1500 in game actions now? I cant view or refresh my page without it counting down to my 1500 number...That is a bit ridiculous don't you think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Y Wonka Posted November 2, 2007 Report Share Posted November 2, 2007 Why am I being limited to 1500 in game actions now? I cant view or refresh my page without it counting down to my 1500 number...That is a bit ridiculous don't you think? I have been there before... it is because you refreshed our alliance to even out our stats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hakim Posted November 2, 2007 Report Share Posted November 2, 2007 I have been there before... it is because you refreshed our alliance to even out our stats. Ahhh okay..taking one for the team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewho Posted November 2, 2007 Report Share Posted November 2, 2007 I am roughly a 3,400 Infra, and I am in the same range as a 9,000 infra. Does nobody see a problem with that?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revelation Posted November 2, 2007 Report Share Posted November 2, 2007 Who you want me to curb stomp rev? myself. But i just found out i can buy some plans and then buy some more nukes. I am starting to feel better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daiki Posted November 2, 2007 Report Share Posted November 2, 2007 I think this day should be forever known as the Great Techastrophy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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