thewho

I am happy to announce we now have a full 7BR trade circle. Please plan on sending/recieving trade requests on Friday 3/12 (so everyone can give their current partners 5 days of notice). Also, please change to black by 3/12 if you have not already done so. Let me know if you have any questions! As a reminder the nation names involved with this set are as follows: - Darkhaze - Thewho - Krachenpie - Die Osterreich - Otherworld - Jacques Cousteau Thanks, Thewho

Bump! Just waiting on Aluminum and Uranium.

bump.

[quote name='Otherworld' date='06 March 2010 - 04:02 AM' timestamp='1267866417' post='2215787'] Marble/rubber http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=390640 [/quote] Would you be willing to switch to black?

Bump. Removing barriers.

Resource list: - Aluminum - Darkhaze - Coal - Krachenpie - Gold - Die Osterreich - Iron - Jacko - Lead - Thewho - Lumber - Jacko - Marble - Otherworld - Oil - Krachenpie - Rubber - Otherworld - Sugar - Thewho - Uranium - Darkhaze - Wheat - Die Osterreich Economic effect: Income: +$13.5 Citizens: +11.24% Happiness: +6.5 Infra cost: -35.2% Tech cost: -12.6% Land cost: -10% Land bonus: +38% Environment: +1 Env. Penalty: -50% Bill effect: Infra UpK: -23.7% Soldier UpK: -$0.5 Tank UpK: -16.97% Nuke UpK: -60% Navy UpK: -38.44% Aircraft UpK: -25% Military effect: Soldier eff.: +42.56% Soldier cost: -$6 CM cost: -20% Nukes cost: -20% Tanks cost: -8% Navy Cost: -27.33% Aircraft Cost: -15.21% Aircraft Limit: +10

Straightup. Ruler name thewho

Hit my nation up. http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_d...ation_ID=151562

Looking for a possible regular buyer. I will be paying 12m boyee. Pm my nation if interested. http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_d...ation_ID=151562

Thankyou very much phillip. I really needed to figure that out. I feel like I was pretty effecient without it, so I am pumped to see what effect this has on my nation. Thanks again guys,

I am a 4700 and I dont completely understand what improvement swapping is. Is there any chance someone can explain it to me, or take a look at my nation and give me some advice? My bills are at 1.8 mil, and I am making 2.75 mil after my bills. Thanks alot. My ruler name is thewho.

yeah its all about who you know. Just like in the real world. I got maybe 5 mil in early aid, and now I am 158 days old, sitting at 31,721 NS. Donation deals, tech deals, tech raids, you name it.

If you don't believe me, here is a few examples of what I am talking about. <a href="http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_d...Nation_ID=28291" target="_blank">http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_d...Nation_ID=28291</a> If link doesnt work, search Shadow Falls and <a href="http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_d...?Nation_ID=2293" target="_blank">http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_d...?Nation_ID=2293</a> Wurzland Vs. (me) Boraohmire <a href="http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_d...ation_ID=151562" target="_blank">http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_d...ation_ID=151562</a> They both crush me in tech.

Wurzak, thats a false statement. Before I could only be attacked by someone maybe twice as big as me. And thats if they deflated their millitary. I can now be attacked by people who have 3 to 5 times as much infra as me. Do some research you will see.

A change in the value of tech may have been necessary, but the overall intensity of the change was too much. This change has killed any momentum a smaller nation had at being able to grow. Probably two reasons this decision was made: To stop the tech raiders, and to raise the demand of donations. Maybe cut the value of tech in half, 3/4 of the value dropped is horrid. These post are not necessarily "Whining" posts. These are post with legitimate arguments on an overal negative feeling on the change. So the kids using the, ahhh all the whiners copout didn't read the title of this blog or understand it. Still the biggest problem with the change, that will be evident the more days that go by, is the nation strength rule when it comes to getting battles. I can now get attacked by nations who have over 9,500 infra when I only have 3,400. Sounds like a fair fight to me. Nobody is complaining at the moment about this observation, but wait till your getting crushed on by someone 5 times your size, then get back to me.

Adjust the ground attacks. Go back to the old days where it was possible to steal 10 with each attack. Real callobrate attacks and tech prices.

Yes like i said before. I am a 3,400 infra, and I am in the same range as most 9,000 infra's. I dont even see a point of the 1/2 to 200% rule anymore.

I am roughly a 3,400 Infra, and I am in the same range as a 9,000 infra. Does nobody see a problem with that?!

I wouldn't bother asking 3 mil for 100 tech anymore. The market value of 100 tech is now a whopping 750,000. Don't spend it all in one place kids.

For the monsterous nations that are over 5,000 infra, its obviously not as big of a deal to them. They have grown and now they have the option to attack people who are only 2,000 infra. Pretty stunning that someone who can hold 100,000 soldiers can attack someone who maxes out at 10,0000 soldiers. Also they are at the point where they will remain in the top 5 percent for a very long time. They are also collecting millions a day. Starting out as a new nation already takes forever without assistance from friends. Now its just going to be rediculous trying to start from scratch. The gap between the veterans in the noobs has grown substantially with this change. And since the change completely killed the market value of tech, that gap will remain and only continue to grow unless there is a price change to go along with it.

This change has made the strong, stronger and the weak, weaker. Now the smaller growing nations only have the option of donations, and tax collection to look forward to.

Its a big advantage to people who already own nukes and also the larger nations of the game. I went from top 8 percent to 14th. Now it will take forever to get back near the top 5 percent. Tech has always been a crucial part of the game, regardless of how much it may inflate your nation- it gives a more reasonable chance at growing rapidly. Tech has now significantly dropped in value, where you might be able to sell 50 tech for 1.5 mi, would now only be worth $375,000 on the market. So now the whole chance of growing your nation through tech sale might as well be obsolete. We are now limited to donation sales as one of the only means of making money outside of collecting taxes. This takes away from a huge portion of the game and slows down nation growth in infrastructure and nation strenth. When you slow down a game, it does nothing but restrict nations from using their good economic/sales skills and takes away from the fun of growing at a faster rate then the norm. Dropping the value of tech 3/4 is hideous. Dropping it to a 10 multiplier would still suck, but would be more reasonable to those trying to grow their nation to the top 5 percent. Also my environment took a hit, and thats another factor will affect my chance to grow quickly.

Today I looked at my nation and it had dropped over 8k in nation strength. What happend? I went form being ranked in the top 7 percent, to the 12th percentile!

Would someone please lend me 3 mil to help my nation get some positive momentum. I am a very active member and its driving me crazy how slow this process is at first. Just looking to buy infra, so that I can get the improvements I need to be more effecient. Thanks in advance. My link is.... http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_d...ation_ID=151562 Ps. Also selling small to large amounts of tech, pm me if interested