TheShammySocialist Posted February 14, 2013 Report Share Posted February 14, 2013 I plan on posting tonight, that being said, I still consider my military to be of pre-IG-war levels, seeing as this damn IC conflict started back in December, when all this war wasn't going on. Not that it really matters anyways, as I'm RP'ing at my full complement of ships is not available (only submarines), nor do I believe I am going to be engaging with what I had for numbers of troops back then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Centurius Posted February 15, 2013 Report Share Posted February 15, 2013 I plan on posting tonight, that being said, I still consider my military to be of pre-IG-war levels, seeing as this damn IC conflict started back in December, when all this war wasn't going on. Same for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mara Lithaen Posted February 16, 2013 Report Share Posted February 16, 2013 It's funny, but I remember a war where you didn't extend me any such courtesy... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Executive Minister Posted February 16, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 16, 2013 (edited) Quit complaining you delayed all through winter break, now people actually have shit to do IRL. There's a difference between threatening a wipe and asking for dialogue to resume about a theatre that's been effectively paralyzed in an ooc dispute. I am not asking anyone to hurry up with responses. Right now we had an irresponsible gm dismiss the only mediator that could be effective in this dispute. I want to continue the dialogue and want others on the other side to do likewise in Triyuns absense. Edited February 16, 2013 by Executive Minister Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Centurius Posted February 16, 2013 Report Share Posted February 16, 2013 It's funny, but I remember a war where you didn't extend me any such courtesy... Â I remember the ig war had been going on for quite a while before preplanning started already. Â There's a difference between threatening a wipe and asking for dialogue to resume about a theatre that's been effectively paralyzed in an ooc dispute. I am not asking anyone to hurry up with responses. Right now we had an irresponsible gm dismiss the only mediator that could be effective in this dispute. I want to continue the dialogue and want others on the other side to do likewise in Triyuns absense. Â Triyun is the only one who can participate in that one with fair accuracy.for the simple matter that we're relying on his infrastructure primarily. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Executive Minister Posted February 21, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 I'm sorry Cent, but relying on his infrastructure really is no excuse. You guys have fleets you must rp yourselves in the contested region, and I have always seen you guys deploying out of his bases and territories without hesitation. Again, can anyone going to come to the plate Triyun and Sarah have categorically refused to meet so we can work with Tanis towards an agreement? You lose all right to complain about my conduct at the beginning of the war if you don't :p at least I've continued to make public attempts to maintain communication. On an unrelated note, I'm going to have to refuse any attempts at stat saving unless its accompanied by a screenshot. Even then, I've recalled numerous times that the TSI has refused that courtesy on others. I'm going to need some convincing as to why I should accept stat saving. So far, I haven't seen much incentive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Enema Posted February 21, 2013 Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 Their stats are locked in at what they started the rp with. While quite sometime has gone on in ooc, not much time at all has gone on ic. I don't see why their stats would need an adjustment in this particular rp. However, I do think you are wise to request screen shots to verify their claims. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Executive Minister Posted February 21, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 While saving the status of your IG nation at the start of the war is something that isn't absurd, I'm pretty sure I remember kankou pushing for that and being denied. I'll need to see a source of that "stat lock in" statement TBM. Of course if my memory fails me, I'll gladly accept that with the pertinent screenshots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Enema Posted February 21, 2013 Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 They IC nations haven't changed since the beginning of the RP, which wouldn't be affected by a dramatic change of stats due to the time frame involved. Had the war started yesterday, yes, I'd agree no saved stats. However, this isn't about stats being saved, it's about stats of an ic nation not changing in an rp that hasn't icly gone on for more than a handful of days in that rp.  They are simply rping with the nations they started with in an rp that hasn't gone on for very long. However, that being said, demand screen shots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yawoo Posted February 21, 2013 Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 (edited) I'm sorry Cent, but relying on his infrastructure really is no excuse. You guys have fleets you must rp yourselves in the contested region, and I have always seen you guys deploying out of his bases and territories without hesitation. Again, can anyone going to come to the plate Triyun and Sarah have categorically refused to meet so we can work with Tanis towards an agreement? You lose all right to complain about my conduct at the beginning of the war if you don't :P at least I've continued to make public attempts to maintain communication. Actually, you went multiple weeks without talking to anyone on our side, so don't try to blame the victim card. Further, it's been you and yours which have categorically refused to allow any sort of action in the contested region because you couldn't work out an agreement. We're only following what Tanis and you have insisted we do in the region, nothing. If Triyun and Sarah continue to refuse speaking to you, you know where the GM's court is, go there and speak with the GMs. Edited February 21, 2013 by Yawoo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanis777 Posted February 22, 2013 Report Share Posted February 22, 2013 (edited) I have suggested things. Weeks did go by before I was assigned to moderate this shindig. Most my work was done between January 10 to about the 22nd. So, the length of time in absent and not in discussion is the same at this point. I know I denied auto advances because talks were underway, but talks haven't been underway since late January.   I don't want to see anyone of you folks to pull out the "I'm better than thou" card, you'll all equally guilty at stalling at this point.  The only person that has really disagreed was Triyun.  EDIT: I've been waiting for the non-AUP to come back to the table, but I heard nothing. Ever since the pressure to auto advance during talks were denied, that's something I would not do as both sides were in discussion. If there were no talks, I would have granted those auto advances. Edited February 22, 2013 by Tanis777 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justinian the Mighty Posted February 22, 2013 Report Share Posted February 22, 2013 I will negotiate on behalf of the non AUP. We want an auto advance. Don't ask why, you wouldn't understand, its a non AUP thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Enema Posted February 22, 2013 Report Share Posted February 22, 2013 :facepalms: This whole war needs a wipe, including the sulemein business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanis777 Posted February 22, 2013 Report Share Posted February 22, 2013 At this point, I'm inclined to highly suggest on a wipe. But I'm not the party to make that happen though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mara Lithaen Posted February 22, 2013 Report Share Posted February 22, 2013 Agreed. A wipe is the best way to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoot Zoot Posted February 22, 2013 Report Share Posted February 22, 2013 No wipes. I believe this war needs to happen. At the minute CNRP is a humid, sweaty, sticky place, and this war is our thunderstorm to clean the air. It needs to finish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Zephyr Posted February 23, 2013 Report Share Posted February 23, 2013 Perhaps letting Triyun Cent and EM duke it out? Or even just Triyun and EM. They seem to be the only contributors to the war at this point anyway. You might even say that they were destined to fight each other... My point being I think EM vs Triyun has been a long time coming and them dukeing it out is probably a good thing. Course it's up to you guys at this point. As I mentioned in Zoot's thread, I wouldn't mind coming back as a Haven that never got into this war. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markus Wilding Posted February 24, 2013 Report Share Posted February 24, 2013 I wouldn't be opposed to a wipe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imperator Azenquor Posted February 24, 2013 Report Share Posted February 24, 2013 I do oppose simply wiping the war as a solution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iKrolm Posted February 24, 2013 Report Share Posted February 24, 2013 I oppose wiping as well and suggest white peace as an alternative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JEDCJT Posted February 25, 2013 Report Share Posted February 25, 2013 I support a wipe. The war is beyond messy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triyun Posted February 25, 2013 Report Share Posted February 25, 2013 (edited) I've got no problem with a wipe, I'll go back to ignoring him provided he doesn't hit an ally again. Â I'd again emphasize to people with knee jerk, "Blame Triyun." instincts I had nothing to do with starting this war. Â I was called in because a treaty was activated. Â Contrary to what people like Zephyr believe (and yes I'm annoyed about it) I didn't really want to fight EM. I didn't honor my MDP with Cent till I finished school reports last semester. Â I had a month break, EM didn't post during it at all, my next semester started and my time once again dropped. Â That's the reality of this situation. Â He's not queried me once on IRC either so the idea I've not talked to him really isn't true either. Â Â This is dumb, wipes probably best. Edited February 25, 2013 by Triyun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Centurius Posted February 25, 2013 Report Share Posted February 25, 2013 At this point I'm going to have to back Triyun and am not opposed to wiping the entire thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voodoo Nova Posted February 26, 2013 Report Share Posted February 26, 2013 Wiping would probably be for the best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Enema Posted February 26, 2013 Report Share Posted February 26, 2013 I've got no problem with a wipe, I'll go back to ignoring him provided he doesn't hit an ally again.  I'd again emphasize to people with knee jerk, "Blame Triyun." instincts I had nothing to do with starting this war.  I was called in because a treaty was activated.  Contrary to what people like Zephyr believe (and yes I'm annoyed about it) I didn't really want to fight EM. I didn't honor my MDP with Cent till I finished school reports last semester.  I had a month break, EM didn't post during it at all, my next semester started and my time once again dropped.  That's the reality of this situation.  He's not queried me once on IRC either so the idea I've not talked to him really isn't true either.   This is dumb, wipes probably best.   Providing your allies aren't provoking wars you know full good and well EM isn't going to attack anyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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