My way or you can buzz off...

[Voodoo Nova]

[quote name='PresidentDavid' timestamp='1348173335' post='3032406']
Actually he lost the popular vote but won the electoral vote in 2008
[/quote]

You may have been too young to remember, but Obama won the popular vote and the electoral vote. ~67 million votes for Obama to ~58 million for McCain.

[Domingo the Honored]

[quote name='Isaac MatthewII' timestamp='1348174849' post='3032412']
Then you, among others, will be wiped. Y'all should have set a later date if you felt that way. Next time get all of your cronies in line.
[/quote]

Two immediate thoughts:

By who? You? I'm shaking in my boots.

Still insanely hilarious how you seem to think everyone who got pre-planning abolished is some unholy corps of evil.

[Isaac MatthewII]

You can certainly tell who is actually RPing and who can't develop a real story so they just attack other people. Osnap son....ohh....snap...



[quote name='Domingo the Honored' timestamp='1348175774' post='3032421']
Two immediate thoughts:

By who? You? I'm shaking in my boots.

Still insanely hilarious how you seem to think everyone who got pre-planning abolished is some unholy corps of evil.
[/quote]
Wiped by the GM team since it is their jobs to enforce the rule. Unless we want to bring in the mods...again..


Also no I generally like some of the people, I don't mind Triyun or Voodoo, I just disagree.

Edited September 20, 2012 by Isaac MatthewII

[Markus Wilding]

[quote name='Isaac MatthewII' timestamp='1348175821' post='3032422']
You can certainly tell who is actually RPing and who can't develop a real story so they just attack other people. Osnap son....ohh....snap...
[/quote]
Tell me who. Don't toss out vague generalities, [i]tell me who.[/i]

[Centurius]

[quote name='PresidentDavid' timestamp='1348174386' post='3032409']
Dotcom I know it seems so odd that they are radically just trying to get ride of a rule half of the community supports or at least wants edited however you have to look at their motives. The rule was made so people could work things out and have discussion before the conflict (in addition it gave you mental preparation for the war since most people in the community do not like fighting lolwars that have no justification). The proble is that Some of the people who want to get rid of it only want to do so because they play the game not to RP but just for the fun of rolling/trolling others - disregarding what they may want to RP or do and only looking at their own ideas of "right" and "wrong". Preplanning agrivates them because it delays their terroristic fun of destroying others for a little while. Of course not everyone who is against the rule is like that, but some are. I hope that opened your eyes a bit because it took me a while to notice who the RPers were and who the trolls were inthe community.
[/quote]

Just pointing out that the people you singled out but don't have the guts to name made some of the highest quality rp's in the last year.

[Isaac MatthewII]

[quote name='Markus Wilding' timestamp='1348175886' post='3032423']
Tell me who. Don't toss out vague generalities, [i]tell me who.[/i]
[/quote]
Read my post to Domingo, I ninja edited.

[Isaac MatthewII]

[quote name='Centurius' timestamp='1348175928' post='3032424']
Just pointing out that the people you singled out but don't have the guts to name made some of the highest quality rp's in the last year.
[/quote]

I will name them.

Triyun
Domingo
TBM
Centurius
Zoot

Among others I can't think of. Have done nothing but war war war or nothing all year. With an RP on the side once and a while. Though I will say Lavo is a good RPer. I think that if the listed players put their war time into RP it would contribute to the community a lot more. But then again some people do not wish to communicate.

Edited September 20, 2012 by Isaac MatthewII

[Centurius]

[quote name='Isaac MatthewII' timestamp='1348176307' post='3032428']
I will name them.

Triyun
Domingo
TBM
Centurius
Zoot

Among others I can't think of. Have done nothing but war war war or nothing all year. With an RP on the side once and a while. Though I will say Lavo is a good RPer. I think that if the listed players put their war time into RP it would contribute to the community a lot more. But then again some people do not wish to communicate.
[/quote]

You're blind.

[J Andres]

You are correct in that the system is broken. I just think that something, [i]anything[/i] should replace it. The only reason I voted for preplanning, was so that the community could have some sort of discussion about a successor rule. Any rule or guideline. There is a thread open. Suggest something.

[PresidentDavid]

[quote name='Centurius' timestamp='1348175928' post='3032424']
Just pointing out that the people you singled out but don't have the guts to name made some of the highest quality rp's in the last year.
[/quote]

I give credit to anyone who does good RP with either themselves or another concenting party. However anyone who claims to make good quality RP by being a paracite and leaching off of the unwillingness, degration, and agrivated suffering of someone else who doesn't want to particiate in the RP(War) then I do not give them credit.

Also I don't name them because they and everyone else knows who they are. The same reason why Devil is said instead of Lucifer, or "You-know-who" instead of Lord Voldemort

Edited September 20, 2012 by PresidentDavid

[Lestari]

[quote name='PresidentDavid' timestamp='1348178105' post='3032435']
Also I don't name them because they and everyone else knows who they are. The same reason why Devil is said instead of Lucifer, or "You-know-who" instead of Lord Voldemort
[/quote]
You don't say You Know Who because everyone knows who Voldemort is. You say You Know Who 'cause if you say Voldemort he'll find you and go avada kedavra on yo ass.

Anyway, generally speaking, I'm more than a little fed up with the people who toss about accusations that the anti pre planning folks are also somehow anti 'decent roleplay' or something. They're not. Most people, including the anti preplanners, just want a good RP environment. I disagree that removing all semblance of pre-planning will provide that environment myself and I feel that to take it out entirely and refuse entirely to reform it instead will be detrimental to a cooperative roleplay experience, but Isaac, to say that Centurius, or Domingo, opposes pre planning just so they can go lolwar is false, detrimental to the pro pre-planning argument and, indeed, blind.

[Isaac MatthewII]

[quote name='PresidentDavid' timestamp='1348178105' post='3032435']
I give credit to anyone who does good RP with either themselves or another concenting party. However anyone who claims to make good quality RP by being a paracite and leaching off of the unwillingness, degration, and agrivated suffering of someone else who doesn't want to particiatw in the RP(War) then I do not give them credit.

Also I don't name them because they and everyone else knows who they are. The same reason why Devil is said instead of Lucifer, or "You-know-who" instead of Lord Voldemort
[/quote]
Or that socialist idiot (Obama)

[Markus Wilding]

[quote name='PresidentDavid' timestamp='1348178105' post='3032435']
I give credit to anyone who does good RP with either themselves or another concenting party. However anyone who claims to make good quality RP by being a paracite and leaching off of the unwillingness, degration, and agrivated suffering of someone else who doesn't want to particiate in the RP(War) then I do not give them credit.

Also I don't name them because they and everyone else knows who they are. The same reason why Devil is said instead of Lucifer, or "You-know-who" instead of Lord Voldemort
[/quote]
Then name them anyway. Go ahead, name them and see what happens. (Here's a hint - nothing will)

[quote name='Isaac MatthewII' timestamp='1348178634' post='3032442']
Or that socialist idiot (Obama)
[/quote]
Stop bringing your political agenda into here.

[Lestari]

[quote name='Isaac MatthewII' timestamp='1348178634' post='3032442']
Or that socialist idiot (Obama)
[/quote]
Isaac, kindly take your snide political !@#$%^&* to the boiler room where it belongs, or stay on topic here.

[Isaac MatthewII]

[quote name='dotCom' timestamp='1348178523' post='3032440']
You don't say You Know Who because everyone knows who Voldemort is. You say You Know Who 'cause if you say Voldemort he'll find you and go avada kedavra on yo ass.

Anyway, generally speaking, I'm more than a little fed up with the people who toss about accusations that the anti pre planning folks are also somehow anti 'decent roleplay' or something. They're not. Most people, including the anti preplanners, just want a good RP environment. I disagree that removing all semblance of pre-planning will provide that environment myself and I feel that to take it out entirely and refuse entirely to reform it instead will be detrimental to a cooperative roleplay experience, but Isaac, to say that Centurius, or Domingo, opposes pre planning just so they can go lolwar is false, detrimental to the pro pre-planning argument and, indeed, blind.
[/quote]

I don't really see it that way, but then again I am blind so maybe I am wrong. Thats the great thing about opinions, I can have whichever I choose.


[quote name='dotCom' timestamp='1348178798' post='3032445']
Isaac, kindly take your snide political !@#$%^&* to the boiler room where it belongs, or stay on topic here.
[/quote]

Someone is on the take everything too seriously train today.

Edited September 20, 2012 by Isaac MatthewII

[PresidentDavid]

[quote name='dotCom' timestamp='1348178523' post='3032440']
You don't say You Know Who because everyone knows who Voldemort is. You say You Know Who 'cause if you say Voldemort he'll find you and go avada kedavra on yo ass.

Anyway, generally speaking, I'm more than a little fed up with the people who toss about accusations that the anti pre planning folks are also somehow anti 'decent roleplay' or something. They're not. Most people, including the anti preplanners, just want a good RP environment. I disagree that removing all semblance of pre-planning will provide that environment myself and I feel that to take it out entirely and refuse entirely to reform it instead will be detrimental to a cooperative roleplay experience, but Isaac, to say that Centurius, or Domingo, opposes pre planning just so they can go lolwar is false, detrimental to the pro pre-planning argument and, indeed, blind.
[/quote]
You don't say? I agree with a lot of what you said since I said that most anti-preplanners aren't like how I described a few are. Goodto know we found common ground.

[Lestari]

[quote name='Isaac MatthewII' timestamp='1348178902' post='3032446']
Someone is on the take everything too seriously train today.
[/quote]

I wouldn't mind if it were in any way funny. It's not. It's just annoying. :v I already have to see the dumb conservative vitriol every time I pass by the Boiler Room, let's keep CNRP discussions free of it, shall we?

[TheShammySocialist]

[quote name='dotCom' timestamp='1348179526' post='3032453']
I wouldn't mind if it were in any way funny. It's not. It's just annoying. :v I already have to see the dumb conservative vitriol every time I pass by the Boiler Room, let's keep CNRP discussions free of it, shall we?
[/quote]

I agree with this, taking political cheap shots and one liners in CNRP's OOC boards is getting old fast, some of us don't want to hear the political drivel every twenty seconds.

[Isaac MatthewII]

[quote name='TheShammySocialist' timestamp='1348180012' post='3032455']
I agree with this, taking political cheap shots and one liners in CNRP's OOC boards is getting old fast, some of us don't want to hear the political drivel every twenty seconds.
[/quote]
Fine fine lol if everyone is gonna get ants in their @#$ over it.

[TheShammySocialist]

It's not a matter of "ants in the pants", its a matter of it being non-productive and completely useless, unless you're just trying to spur conflict, which is what those silly one-liners do.

These boards shouldn't be about creating conflict (despite what it seems to appear, at most times), they should be about trying to constructively resolve it. Nothing more, nothing less.

[Isaac MatthewII]

Yes sir!


Back to what I was saying, stop being childish, the rule is there deal with it. On another note, the GMs should be enforcing the rules on this, majority rules. Please don't make us bring the actual mods into this again, I think we can all be adult enough to find common ground.

Edited September 20, 2012 by Isaac MatthewII

[Captain Enema]

And just so people know, I will be accepting GM nominations this next term. You clowns were silly enough to elect Melech, you'll elect me sooner or lat er.


Preplanning is dead, it's a good day people, let's get busy and cleanse the boar... rping.

[Sarah Tintagyl]

As a question more to PD and Isaac...wouldn't pre-planning be considered a form of welfare? It's essentially a safety net to protect you that CNRP's GM "Government" instituted a while back. Honestly, I don't get why you guys are for pre-planning, given that it essentially the socialism that you constantly rail against.

Don't you want players to have freedom?

Even at the expense of the poor and downtrodden...like yourselves?

I just find it funny that the "Proud Conservatives" aren't really Conservative at all.

Edited September 21, 2012 by Sarah Tintagyl

[Isaac MatthewII]

[quote name='Sarah Tintagyl' timestamp='1348190967' post='3032528']
As a question more to PD and Isaac...wouldn't pre-planning be considered a form of welfare? It's essentially a safety net to protect you that CNRP's GM "Government" instituted a while back. Honestly, I don't get why you guys are for pre-planning, given that it essentially the socialism that you constantly rail against.

Don't you want players to have freedom?

Even at the expense of the poor and downtrodden...like yourselves?

I just find it funny that the "Proud Conservatives" aren't really Conservative at all.
[/quote]
Please, do you really think I am going to let you bait me into a stupid debate like that. Seriously, that was a horrible reach.

[Sarah Tintagyl]

[quote name='Isaac MatthewII' timestamp='1348191232' post='3032531']
Please, do you really think I am going to let you bait me into a stupid debate like that. Seriously, that was a horrible reach.
[/quote]

No, like I'm actually curious. That's kind of what this is, like I'm not against pre-planning, I think it needs to be reformed. But it is a safety net, same with the non-nuke rule under 20k, these are safety nets. Essentially, you and PD make up the large Liberal base of CNRP, ones who want things to be changed for the benefit of the players with "Government" regulation.

You guys like GM/Mod handouts.

In truth, both yourself and PD are kind of like CNRP socialists.

Edited September 21, 2012 by Sarah Tintagyl