Centurius Posted March 29, 2012 Report Share Posted March 29, 2012 [quote name='Triyun' timestamp='1332980278' post='2944616'] There is an alternative explanation to have it come about without a long time skip. [img]http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/small/000/158/329/9189283.jpg[/img] [/quote] Can never argue against aliens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacharth Posted March 29, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 29, 2012 Ahahahahah triyun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zarfef Posted March 29, 2012 Report Share Posted March 29, 2012 [quote name='Isaac MatthewII' timestamp='1332979955' post='2944605'] That. Even make a separate CNRP call it "CNRP Post 2012" or something to that effect. I think it would be awesome RP. [/quote] Alas - it is indeed sad, but it has been tried before many times and always met with failure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Kingswell Posted March 29, 2012 Report Share Posted March 29, 2012 [quote name='Zarfef' timestamp='1332981504' post='2944644'] Alas - it is indeed sad, but it has been tried before many times and always met with failure. [/quote] Well technically I could have my nation be engulfed by sudden volcanic eruptions and turn into a burning hellish landscape of fire and lava inhabitated by nothing but savage cannibalistic killers. All of which would be canon too . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iKrolm Posted March 29, 2012 Report Share Posted March 29, 2012 Why do we need another continent, is the world full? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacharth Posted March 29, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 29, 2012 [quote name='iKrolm' timestamp='1332982778' post='2944659'] Why do we need another continent, is the world full? [/quote] All the good spots are taken. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JEDCJT Posted March 29, 2012 Report Share Posted March 29, 2012 $%&@ yeah a new continent. Make it happen $%&@ers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Executive Minister Posted March 29, 2012 Report Share Posted March 29, 2012 (edited) [quote name='Centurius' timestamp='1332978709' post='2944586'] This is any different from now, how? [/quote] We have real life geography to tell someone what is and isn't present in their territory [quote name='Bacharth' timestamp='1332978974' post='2944588'] How it's always been. And $%&@ Jack Daniels, it's gonna have Crown Royal on tap. Quit being cynical about it. And it's not going to be ecologically devoid, or that would basically make it a new Antarctica, nobody wants to play there, so it's all full of colonies. [/quote] And how are we going to determine the land mass itself? Is anyone here a geographer? Will we vote on the composition of the continent? There is plenty of white land available to new Rpers. Again this is a stupid idea - a can of worms. EDIT: If all the good spots are taken, this won't do a thing - they'll still be taken. All this boils down to is making the continent a 'good spot', you know, like what everyone should be doing with ANY land they're given in the first place. Edited March 29, 2012 by Executive Minister Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacharth Posted March 29, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 29, 2012 (edited) [quote name='Executive Minister' timestamp='1332987710' post='2944714'] We have real life geography to tell someone what is and isn't present in their territory And how are we going to determine the land mass itself? Is anyone here a geographer? Will we vote on the composition of the continent? There is plenty of white land available to new Rpers. Again this is a stupid idea - a can of worms. EDIT: If all the good spots are taken, this won't do a thing - they'll still be taken. All this boils down to is making the continent a 'good spot', you know, like what everyone should be doing with ANY land they're given in the first place. [/quote] If the vote passes, then the people making the landmass will just create it. Every detail doesn't have to be up for debate. As for the geographer comment, I've read enough on the subject, and I'm sure there are those here who would be willing to, and with our collective knowledge we could make something realistic. Hell, Zarfef has already made a really cool continent. All we'd have to do is wave a magic wand and say, "The ASBs have carved out a chunk of the Pacific Plate and slammed in a new plate with its own geography. The land that's available is mostly desert, whether it be ice or sand or tundra. Honestly it's like you think this is going to be a massive game changing deal: it's not. Yes, there's going to be new land, but it's going to be for new nations, and not something people can just conquer over. We can call it Atlantis or some !@#$. Edited March 29, 2012 by Bacharth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarah Tintagyl Posted March 29, 2012 Report Share Posted March 29, 2012 [quote name='Executive Minister' timestamp='1332987710' post='2944714'] And how are we going to determine the land mass itself? [b]Is anyone here a geographer?[/b] Will we vote on the composition of the continent? There is plenty of white land available to new Rpers. Again this is a stupid idea - a can of worms. EDIT: If all the good spots are taken, this won't do a thing - they'll still be taken. All this boils down to is making the continent a 'good spot', you know, like what everyone should be doing with ANY land they're given in the first place. [/quote] I'm glad someone agrees with me...this is what I say when people talk about military technology....of with is anyone a military engineer instead of a geographer...otherwise it's just silly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtleknifewielder Posted March 29, 2012 Report Share Posted March 29, 2012 [quote name='Zarfef' timestamp='1332973426' post='2944513'] Add something new - but don't destroy the old because... well, [b]people already live there.[/b] [/quote] Hear hear! [quote name='Justinian the Mighty' timestamp='1332977518' post='2944562'] Status Quo or a new world. I had an idea for a new world, but KaiserMelech didn't like it cause he's a hater. [/quote] Are you sure you're not just projecting? [quote name='Isaac MatthewII' timestamp='1332979955' post='2944605'] That. Even make a separate CNRP call it "CNRP Post 2012" or something to that effect. I think it would be awesome RP. [/quote] We tried that once, albeit it was further in the future. Anyone remember Mael's CNRP Spore? [quote name='Altarian Republic' timestamp='1332980031' post='2944607'] I think the world is ok as is but I really don't care too much about how this plays out but if we make a new continent this is what I suggest: The dark lord Cthulhu rises from the ocean to bring darkness to the world. He decides that it's too much effort, craps out a new continent, then goes home. [/quote] Hahah, I knew there was a reason I liked this guy.[img]http://forums.cybernations.net/public/style_emoticons/default/awesome.gif[/img] [quote name='Centurius' timestamp='1332980331' post='2944617'] Can never argue against aliens. [/quote] I can. I say it was The Merfolk.[img]http://forums.cybernations.net/public/style_emoticons/default/smug.gif[/img] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isaac MatthewII Posted March 29, 2012 Report Share Posted March 29, 2012 All that white space is mostly Triyuns future colonies.The other places are North America...I mean come on.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Executive Minister Posted March 29, 2012 Report Share Posted March 29, 2012 [quote name='Bacharth' timestamp='1332994501' post='2944770'] If the vote passes, then the people making the landmass will just create it. Every detail doesn't have to be up for debate. As for the geographer comment, I've read enough on the subject, and I'm sure there are those here who would be willing to, and with our collective knowledge we could make something realistic. Hell, Zarfef has already made a really cool continent. All we'd have to do is wave a magic wand and say, "The ASBs have carved out a chunk of the Pacific Plate and slammed in a new plate with its own geography. The land that's available is mostly desert, whether it be ice or sand or tundra. Honestly it's like you think this is going to be a massive game changing deal: it's not. Yes, there's going to be new land, but it's going to be for new nations, and not something people can just conquer over. We can call it Atlantis or some !@#$. [/quote] Meh, you know what, you seem really keen on this idea. Forget I said anything - won't be touching this landmass with a 30 ft pole though. We'll see if things work out. Forgive me if I seem overtly pessimistic. [quote name='Sarah Tintagyl' timestamp='1332995163' post='2944779'] I'm glad someone agrees with me...this is what I say when people talk about military technology....of with is anyone a military engineer instead of a geographer...otherwise it's just silly. [/quote] Yeah, I know that's the only kind of comment you can harp on with when people try to discuss military technology. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evangeline Anovilis Posted March 29, 2012 Report Share Posted March 29, 2012 [quote name='Isaac MatthewII' timestamp='1332998524' post='2944820'] All that white space is mostly Triyuns future colonies.The other places are North America...I mean come on.. [/quote] I have to say, the white space is mostly Indonesia, which, if settled by the right people, can be good land, India, which has also potential, though noone will go there, as long as people don't like directly neighbouring Triyun, Persia, which can be quite some awesome land, Yakutia, which is utterly Tundra and Taiga, between Vauleya, which is ok, Horo and Domingo, which is more controversial. Given Triyun granted some freedom to Domingo and leaves Horo be, there is some freedom, if one doesn't push buttons, additionally, we have North America, which now really isn't that bad. It has decent infrastructure, population and climate. And with shammy, there is not as much problems as normally. The African lands also aren't that bad, with a few deserts, but overall, one has to say, the really bad lands in terms of terrain and climate are taken. All that prevents people from settling in the current white space is fear to get rolled by the Horde. But as the new continent isn't out of reach of carrier fleets and strategic bombers, the only advantage of the new land would be freedom in who settles there. Otherwise, if people ignore the fact that it'd be completely defeating the purpose of the continent, Triyun and Cent could draw a line through it and just colonise it themselves. Therefor, I say, a new continent, despite the current mass of white space, cannot be a real solution. The world will always reach you, and really, if I look at South America, you can be pretty much everything, regardless of the real situation. And I forgot, there is also a free former Biscotti, just that noone wants to settle there. But I admit, I wouldn't settle there (again) either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Executive Minister Posted March 29, 2012 Report Share Posted March 29, 2012 Africa has tons of sheltered white land open to any new RPers. As for having 'really bad terrain and climate', I think its merely another resource one can use in their RP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kankou Posted March 29, 2012 Report Share Posted March 29, 2012 At this point I'm finding selective realism to be just what TBM had been ranting against. Either be realistic with all, or nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evangeline Anovilis Posted March 29, 2012 Report Share Posted March 29, 2012 (edited) I agree with EM. You can't just use loads of tanks in the Sahara with the same effect as in Ukraine. And you get Camels too. Edited March 29, 2012 by Evangeline Anovilis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kankou Posted March 29, 2012 Report Share Posted March 29, 2012 Eh, I was focusing on any new continents forming. Looking at all the faults and volcanic activities, the only place for establishing a continent of any significant size would be in the Southwestern Pacific, away from Triyun or Centurius (as many are worried about). If we go with realism there will be !@#$%*ing that there is only one person to take advantage of it, and if we go into the realm of fantasy, there'll be !@#$%*ing about who controls that continent. All that'll happen is one more layer of complaining, which will add to everyone's headache (except probably myself, but I thrive in such a steamrolling hostile environment). Also, I do know of a manga which deals with a similar scenario, and the results aren't pretty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Executive Minister Posted March 29, 2012 Report Share Posted March 29, 2012 *sigh* who the hell is talking about Triyun and Cent of all people? If this is what it all boils down to (which i doubt it is), i'd be fervently against this continent. Either grow a spine and fight for your right to party or leave. This continent won't 'save' anyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kankou Posted March 29, 2012 Report Share Posted March 29, 2012 Read the previous page. But anyway, the main problem with any new continent is that it will be a strategically important location, and as such rather than becoming a place of peace and a new start, it'll be nothing but a source of conflict. It doesn't matter if it's Triyun, Centurius, myself, Graniteknight, Curristan, TheShammySocialist. Any new land will cause wars and !@#$%*ing unless we all become saints and not even approach whoever establishes a nation on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voodoo Nova Posted March 29, 2012 Report Share Posted March 29, 2012 I'm against a new continent. This isn't out of any want for realism, but for the simple fact people are already whining about Triyun/Cent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triyun Posted March 29, 2012 Report Share Posted March 29, 2012 This is all ridiculous. First in regards to Asia there have been plenty of people who have gone there. Now if your talking about say France going and colonizing India, the Empire's forces prevent that of course. There is not real substantive evidence that anyone has restricted new nations in Asia, provided of course they are truly new. An example of not a truly new state is the attempt by Isha to reconstitute the same state over and over again. That's not that different though from New England preventing France from colonizing Quebec or Aeon preventing France from colonizing Sierra Leone. Second in regards to Cent and I owning a new continent. Why would we do that? Unless it was used as a base against us, there is no good reason for us too. Between Alaska, Asia, Antarctica, and Southern Europe, we've got quite a bit already. Its just not logical. If we wanted to expand and make more land, I'd rather go annex India (which if you notice I have not done). That is the kind of personal sniping that really isn't necessary in any thread because its not backed up by any actual evidence. Its just throwing stuff out there into the conversation for political gain. There is no restriction as it is now on Cent and I getting more territory now. In regards to realism, I don't think that is much of an argument. This is fantasy role play, if a new continent creates better stories and more stories there should be a new continent. I for one support it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtleknifewielder Posted March 29, 2012 Report Share Posted March 29, 2012 Deliberate or not, Triyun, there is no denying you are intimidating. No one's arguing that you really want more land, but you can't deny you'd probably try to establish SOME kind of presence there, as you have already on most of the major continents. And how is Isha re-constituting the same state, over and over? I see suspiciously similar government structures, yes, but no other IC connection between any of his 'incar-nations.' (Pun intended.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Centurius Posted March 29, 2012 Report Share Posted March 29, 2012 [quote name='Subtleknifewielder' timestamp='1333052951' post='2945158'] Deliberate or not, Triyun, there is no denying you are intimidating. No one's arguing that you really want more land, but you can't deny you'd probably try to establish SOME kind of presence there, as you have already on most of the major continents. And how is Isha re-constituting the same state, over and over? I see suspiciously similar government structures, yes, but no other IC connection between any of his 'incar-nations.' (Pun intended.) [/quote] He used to even name them the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtleknifewielder Posted March 29, 2012 Report Share Posted March 29, 2012 Well, in that case I withdraw THAT portion of my statement. That [i]is [/i]pretty bad... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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