WorldConqueror

That is an interesting story, I wasn't aware you were a past Pacifican, I feel like we missed an opportunity when you were at the helm of TOOL. And this is an intriguing venture, I wish you luck with it. While I am not government and thus cannot speak authoritatively on that, I do know that we would welcome members of such high caliber as you and Dodo. I recommend you speak to Cortath or one of our IA IO's, Bilrow or Red.

[quote name='Mr Damsky' timestamp='1291594675' post='2531370'] Sure it does. OTS has every right to stick out (I encouraged them to aswell) because it's an OPTIONAL Defense Pact. NPO, Invicta, etc. had Mandatory Defense Pacts which they violated by not coming in.[/quote] It's mutual defense bro. And the signatories of an agreement surely have the right to decide how they put that agreement into practice. They asked us not to enter, and we obliged. Shock horror! [quote]I stated in my OP I did this to help SWAT. How is that after the fact? [/quote] Announcing to the world a treaty which you simultaneously activate in response to an attack committed before the announcement would seem to be after the fact to me.

[quote name='camerontech' timestamp='1291551563' post='2530866'] You literally "lmao", woah dude, maybe you should go to a doctor... [/quote] [quote name='Crushtania' timestamp='1291552335' post='2530870'] Hmm. Being a n00b and bawwing about it...it's a Bush Doctrine I can believe in. [/quote] Heh, these posts made me laugh. Kudos gentlemen.

[quote name='Emperor Whimsical' timestamp='1291593890' post='2531362'] I'm pretty sure he did state that in this very topic. [/quote] As did Sajasabie in their thread, both after the fact.

[quote name='Mr Damsky' timestamp='1291591866' post='2531315'] I don't know how many times I have to say this but I guess I'll need to say it again. The Cat Land - RED war is a different conflict then the Cat Land - Sajasabie war. There is no connection between Sajasabie and RED and thus they are different wars. [/quote] So there is now 3 separate and completely different wars going on? Cat Land-RED, Cat Land-Sajasabie, and BoS-Sajasabie, since none of the participants have treaties? I don't know about you, but I think the starting causes of the war are a better indicator of whether it is one war or not. Also, since you just declared war on Sajasabie without a treaty connection, and they count as an alliance, we can all classify you as a rogue I take it?

[quote name='Mr Damsky' timestamp='1291591473' post='2531310'] Once again, we didn't start this war Sajasabie did. This wasn't some master plan to destroy them. And it's not like they're going to lose SWAT has no military improvements and he'll eventually run out of nukes (he has five). As for the Brotherhood, I have a feeling AzN will attack us. [/quote] No, SWAT did. You decided to jump in when Sajasabie (christ that name is annoying to type out) reacted to his attacks on RED. Really, do you think people are too stupid to follow the trail?

[quote name='Mr Damsky' timestamp='1291591094' post='2531303'] We're the ones outnumbered here. Mind explaining to me how we're "bullying" anyone? [/quote] Raw numbers of nations aren't all that matters in the ranges where most nations have no military wonders or nukes.

[quote name='Mr Damsky' timestamp='1291589601' post='2531288'] I didn't say that. I said you have to have a piece of paper to legally attack someone. [/quote] Wait, what? A piece of paper that says 'Redeemable for one aggressive war'? Where was SWAT's piece of paper? Or yours?

SO I HEARD THERE'S A BLACKSTONE CHRONICLE IN HERE? In all seriousness, not a bad read, your all-caps title was slightly jarring though.

[quote name='Blacky' timestamp='1291588449' post='2531273'] IM RIGHT HERE BRO. COME AT ME. u scurred. u scurred and u mad. [/quote] No, you're scurred! SCURRED! You wanna see f***in' mad, you better just step the f*** away, unless you wanna see f***in' mad! (With you using quotes from a travesty of a show such as Jersey Shore, I feel it's only fair I use quotes from a parody of it.)

[quote name='Blacky' timestamp='1291587800' post='2531263'] It made perfect sense to me. 1) I blew my warchest in a lulzy frenzy (friends nation died) 2) It doesn't matter cause.. what war? I don't see a war in the forseeable future 3) You still haven't come at me bro. [/quote] Well, that was smart. And you're muff cabbage. That's right, I said it. Why don't you come at me, bro? (Why are you posturing as a bad ass by trying to get other people to attack you?)

[quote name='Blacky' timestamp='1291587508' post='2531254'] Warchest? Rofl what war? Get real kid. In any case, I blew like close to $1.5b when Shamed's nation died. A tragic occurence. COME AT ME BRO! COME AT ME! [/quote] Care to make some sense?

[quote name='Henry Rollins' timestamp='1291586764' post='2531243'] I'll do what I like. If you don't enjoy it, don't read my posts. Go grumble somewhere else. [/quote] Yeah...actually, it's almost universally considered bad form to invade someone else's thread to start spruiking for your alliance. There are whole sections of the forums dedicated to that, feel free to go wild over there.

[quote name='Rush Sykes' timestamp='1291582345' post='2531147'] All I can see when I read this, is an old Peanuts cartoon where Snoopy ZOOMS by Woodstock. Its not really hard to figure out that Sajasabie is the one hitting SWAT just because. [/quote] Right, but then what is your justification for the aid before the Sajasabie intervention? You just wanted to help a friend who was aggressively attacking a group of nations (not going to get into the 'what makes an alliance' debate) unprovoked?

[quote name='Rush Sykes' timestamp='1291580893' post='2531127'] Its like I type in english, but nobody can read it. Of course we aided SWAT before Sajasabie got involved. By our definition, RED isnt an alliance. Hence, SWAT cannot be a rogue. So, we saw no reason at all not to aid a friend and former member. Friends helping friends in CN?? The horror! [/quote] Sorry bro, but you seem to be using some odd dialect of Engrish. Look at your earlier post: [quote]With the minor exception that Athens, taking Sajasabies route, is simply helping a nation fighting against tremendous odds from an alliance that is essentially hitting it "just because." It is far beyond a tech raid. And is bullying at its finest.[/quote] Hmm. So he is "fighting against tremendous odds from an alliance" that isn't an alliance? And he is being hit just because by RED, when he is the one hitting them? You can't use Sajasabie's entry to retro-actively justify your actions before they got involved. Keep it together man, it's like you're not even trying.

[quote name='Rush Sykes' timestamp='1291576655' post='2531067'] With the minor exception that Athens, taking Sajasabies route, is simply helping a nation fighting against tremendous odds from an alliance that is essentially hitting it "just because." It is far beyond a tech raid. And is bullying at its finest. [/quote] Except that you were aiding him long before Sajasabie got involved, sure.

[quote name='Emperor Marx' timestamp='1291575005' post='2531050'] Please. Make it stop. I can't read anymore of this. [/quote] Do something about it. OH SNAP SICK BURN LOLOLOL

[quote name='Mr Damsky' timestamp='1291571284' post='2531016'] Because he's an unprotected nation attacking the red sphere. His concern is pretty valid. [/quote] [quote name='SWAT128' timestamp='1291571391' post='2531017'] You guys used to be the red team's protectors, I thought you still might hold that title. Mostly just wishing for someone to do something though, and I got what I wanted. [/quote] As people that try desperately to provoke a reaction from us, you really should know what you're talking about. First of all, we don't give blanket protection to red alliances. Second, those that are raided have to pro-actively approach us for help. So, well done guys.

[quote name='SWAT128' timestamp='1291570515' post='2531009'] Some of your fellow members made a point that they didn't like what I was doing. I thought one of them might do something, though I appear to be wrong now. [/quote] Really, I don't remember seeing those posts. Though a member expressing disdain at your actions is not a formal tie between NPO and RED, so I'm not sure why you try to bring the whole Order into it.

[quote name='SWAT128' timestamp='1291568470' post='2530979'] RED has never contacted me about peace after I contacted their leader, so it seems to me like he doesn't care I wrecked one of his nations. As for Sajasabie, good for you guys. Everyone else against my attacks seemed content to sit back and do nothing to help RED out. Though I thought I'd be attacked by NPO or Invicta, not some random green team alliance. [/quote] Not sure why we keep getting brought up in relation to RED...

Wait, so you're sitting at 11k infra, with $700M in your warchest? Son, I am amuse. Your military preparation will make the world tremble in fear!

[quote name=Xeno]Chancellor- The eternal leader. In [b]overcharge[/b],[/quote] I'm intrigued, what is overcharge?

[quote name='Salmia' timestamp='1291272798' post='2527893'] I never realized you were only 12 days older than me. Interesting the paths people take. Congrats on 1000 and here is to 1000 more! [/quote] I feel sad knowing that I've been here 400 days longer than both of you, yet you both have lead alliances. I must be doin it rong. And congrats Kevin, don't know you well but I always though Corp was pretty cool.

[quote name='Squid33' timestamp='1291442969' post='2529815'] Gato is out for blood [/quote] The kitteh hungers?

Congratulations on passing this milestone NAC, always good to see fellow red alliances doing well.