WorldConqueror

[quote name='Lord Brendan' timestamp='1299311096' post='2653325'] Well can you blame anyone for being suspicious? This is supposedly an official Carpe Diem announcement, yet in the first three pages we see no word at all from Carpe Diem members. [/quote] It's all well and good to be suspicious, it's a bit of a leap to go straight to us forcing our ally and bloc-mate into a war. How would that work exactly, anyway? 'Welp, there was a DoW put out with your name on it, you're stuck with it now'? If CD didn't agree with it I don't think they'd have much difficulty getting out of it.

[quote name='mythicknight' timestamp='1299310345' post='2653302'] Seems NSO just wants to force CD into war if they can. Real classy. [/quote] Aw man, you sure got us pegged.

[quote name='Azaghul' timestamp='1299309186' post='2653287'] It was an either/or thing. Since we can't get an answer from their membership, their gov has to be [i]really[/i] bad for this to happen if it's not NSO making a joke. [/quote] You presented it as an either/or thing, but because one of those things is untrue does not make the other automatically true. It is not an NSO joke. CD's government is not 'really bad'. Youwish was given permission to post the DoW, I'm not sure on the details why, but it was approved by CD gov. [quote name='Matthew Conrad' timestamp='1299309226' post='2653289'] Will you guys also be giving their treaty announcements in the future too? [/quote] Yes. We'll post yours too, for a nominal fee. Or, you know, DoWs into the middle of an ongoing war might be a bit more time-reliant than treaty announcements. If their timetable called for them to enter this front today, the announcement had to be posted then. [quote name='TBRaiders' timestamp='1299309621' post='2653295'] They are defending you with about as much impact as your are defending NPO. Congrats to both of you. [/quote] I think you will find that GOONS has a different view of our performance thus far.

[quote name='Duncan King' timestamp='1299297818' post='2653102'] Are you serious? [/quote] To be fair, I wish I'd never heard of him. Also, TMZ is a blight upon humanity.

[quote name='Vanilla Napalm' timestamp='1299306313' post='2653256'] My defensive slots are filled with tumbleweeds, covered in spiderwebs and moss. [/quote] Eh, you're not alone. I haven't had any defensive wars since the first round.

[quote name='Azaghul' timestamp='1299308362' post='2653273'] Either Carpe Diem isn't competent enough to have their own people on to declare war or NSO is mocking them. Either way poor show. [/quote] Yes, we're mocking one of our closest allies. Time to pack it up guys, he saw through our clever ruse.

Can we surrender yet?

[quote name='mythicknight' timestamp='1299305158' post='2653221'] Yep. It's youwish. [/quote] Aaand? This is not a joke announcement.

Thankyou for your assistance PhR. o/

o/ CD, your help is appreciated.

[quote name='Frostfirefox' timestamp='1299092342' post='2649780'] Welp there goes green team, I think after this you might actually be worse than pink team [/quote] Don't be so quick to judge, pink team houses ~tHe LeGiOn~

[quote name='Sardonic' timestamp='1299087552' post='2649727'] This is such a laughable bluff I don't even have the words. This conflict was over before a single shot was fired, there is no magic come from behind victory in store for your side, there is only your inevitable defeat. [/quote] Anyone else find this eerily reminiscent of the conversation with Sovereign?

Welp, this is disappointing to see. Didn't expect Olympus to be one of the first to leave the front. Whatever, congrats on peace.

[quote name='TypoNinja' timestamp='1299048886' post='2649388'] I love how people always bring this up like its a revelation. Of course its punitive, does it look like it covers the actual damage caused? Next you'll be calling it extortion and acting suprised too. Every rep's ever levied has been extortion. You either pay or the war continues. Its the very definition.[/quote] Derp. Yes, it was totally a revelation, and wasn't a response to Fro saying earlier that KoH wanted to pay reps. Even in the post I was directly responding to he still threw the recouping some damages line in. [quote]Because getting beat up isnt the punishment for losing a war, its the process of losing a war. And its well within Misfits rights to ask for some damages.[/quote] And now you do too. Which is it, recouping damages or punishing them for entering on a optional treaty? [quote]Wow, I didn't think the quality of discourse on the OWF could sink any lower, but you have brought us a new low. [/quote] Yes, because you've [i]never[/i] heard that phrase before. My apologies for tainting your pure virgin mind.

[quote name='Jrenster' timestamp='1299048095' post='2649374'] I am ashamed to call myself a Legionnaire. This is not what I signed up for. [/quote] That's becauyse you're not a Legionnaire, you're a Legioner.

[quote name='ali5541' timestamp='1299045775' post='2649332'] If you want to look at it that way, Misfits were fighting alongside their allies TOO. Shocking right? [/quote] Um, ok? Not sure how that has any bearing whatsoever on what I said. Every alliance in this war is fighting for their allies, except the initial defenders. Unless you mean that Misfits fighting alongside their allies justifies the rep demands somehow? Help me, I'm confused. [quote name='Frodark' timestamp='1299045866' post='2649334'] Correct If they value their allies enough to attempt to destroy my alliance mates then yes they understand and accept that they will be asked to pay reps should they fail. When I ask Misfits to attack an alliance in defense of VE I understand that should we lose reps will probably come our way. I value my alliance mates enough to make sure the guys attacking them with only an optional obligation to do so pay them for some of the damage they caused. [/quote] Excellent, so you concede the reps are simply designed to be punitive. Now explain why you felt that KoH needed more punishment besides the beatings their nations had already taken. They are well within their rights to defend their ally through an optional treaty. It seems to me that you are simply trying to regain some face and spark some life into your withered e-peens after failing to bring KoH to surrender yourselves. Following an optional treaty into a losing war isn't bandwagoning, bro.

[quote name='Frodark' timestamp='1299044519' post='2649302'] More like White Peace gets offered and rejected. We inform them in 2 days time we will bring our allies and friends to bear on them and offer White Peace again, it was again rejected. When they realize they lost they come crying for White Peace, we took a card from their deck and rejected it... We figured giving them two offers of white peace was enough and if they wanted to keep turning it down it must mean they actually wanted reps. [/quote] Yes, them deciding to fight on in defense of their allies certainly means they wanted to pay you for the trouble when it was finished.

[quote name='TypoNinja' timestamp='1299044082' post='2649290'] I love this institutional belief that everyone who declares war is entitled to white peace, its hilarious. God forbid there might be some negative consequences to losing a war. Its even more hilarious coming from people who have all historically asked for reps. You love reps when you can collect them, but when its not you collecting suddenly they are the tool of the devil. This kind of stuff is why we never take most of you seriously. You whine and complain over 75 million as if it was the harbinger of the apocalypse, honestly save your whining for something actually justifying it. [/quote] You realize that the opposite is true of you lot? Before Karma NPO was somehow expected to hand out white peace to everyone, and any terms were a horrible injustice. People moaned and gnashed their teeth daily about it, it was one of their big talking points. Then Karma rolled around and you hand down record terms and that's ok. And then all the reps since. But that's ok too. And that's why people on this side of the cultural divide don't take you seriously either. Seems like everyone's opinions change according to their position on the totem pole, eh?

So first you have VE and CB help you out with KoH, and then when it's all over you require reps too. [b]heh[/b]

Disregard, n stuff.

[quote name='Argin' timestamp='1298963720' post='2647803'] Nations that have joined NpO since the beginning of the war: 102 Nations that have joined VE since the beginning of the war: 22 Nice try guys, next time try something with less facts and more spin, you know, some real garbage you can just feed the masses. [/quote] No idea why you decided to quote me for that, I wasn't talking about the numbers of deserters or a comparison of such.

[quote name='kriekfreak' timestamp='1299013222' post='2648473'] I'll give you 3mil if you join New Sith Order. [/quote] You are a horrible person.

You should talk to the Econ department of your alliance for trades and growth guides. You should put your tax rate to max though.

[quote name='Duncan King' timestamp='1298996362' post='2648197'] I get 7 And here's a 9 You, sir, are hilariously unlucky. [/quote] Oh, the nuclear reports. I totally forgot about those and he deleted the messages so I wasn't sure. But yeah, I often get at least a few blocked before I hit, and then my SDI lets the first through. Though wondrously it's stopped me getting nuked by SirWilliam the last few days.

I think I had 10 blocked by Mattski's SDI last night before I hit.