Longshadow

[quote name='D34th' timestamp='1358845803' post='3083513'] The fact here is that NSO underestimated Kaskus resilience, if they didn't surrendered yet is because you didn't pushed them hard enough and clearly are unable to do it by yourselves. There is a phrase who says [b][i]"You aren't defeated when you lose. You're only defeated when you quit." [/i][/b]and[i] [/i]Kaskus seems to follow this line of thought and as NPO and now Shangri-la help clearly show, NSO was unprepared to fight an enemy with such tenacity. [/quote] This is rich. The bolded part is my favorite cuz its the same line Kaskus likes to use. I can't tell if you are as brain-dead as they are but I would have hoped you wouldn't continue to support such outright foolishness and idiocity. But eh people always surprise you right? Seriously though, they are a limbless torso, bleeding and gnawing at our ankles and feet. We laugh at them and fight them and its fun! But at the same time we would really love to get into the real war. Y'know? [quote name='KenoCore' timestamp='1358846215' post='3083523'] @long shadow. if NSO si desperetly wanted out of this conflict we would have w[b]hite peaced it is not our pride that is keping this from ending it is.[/b] NSO has to much pride to admit the screwed themselves over Kaskus is having way way way ti much fun with this [/quote] No, it is y'all who have too much pride. We did exactly what we are allowed to do, y'all stonewalled us on giving up Smurf or doing anything related to dealing with the issue that he created. We went to war and really only want y'all to admit the mistake you made in going to war over such a stupid issue. However you can't admit that you made a mistake which is why we are still at war.

[quote name='magicninja' timestamp='1358845370' post='3083509'] No, your side is worried NG will come in over anything. Hence, the speed with which the DoWs were edited...I mean after all if they weren't worried...why bother right? And yes since your side is sooooo eager to keep NG out...TLR gets to attack with impunity. How sweet of you guys. Nicest coalition ever. [/quote] I would like to say as much as this makes sense, what are you trying to say by it? Depending on who TLR hits and who hits them things could get real dicey for NG.

[quote name='KenoCore' timestamp='1358843830' post='3083493'] kaskus tried to resolve this peacefully NSO wouldnt accept our offer to pay reps and let us surrender and eternaly give 100mil every month and be their eternal slaves. those savages. ( this iffer has since been withdrawn since they chose to war instead of being the bigger man and working out diplomatically) @usmc we like our weather crazy as $%&@. [/quote] I have no idea what you are talking about. Considering either your sarcasm was way too over the top, or you just lack the mental wearwithal to actually debate points effectively. This is the real issue that Kaskus has, none of you can actually be diplomatic. You get whiny and upset and start pounding your chest at the first sign you think someone is insulting you. Its quite hilarious.

[quote name='D34th' timestamp='1358833300' post='3083210'] Now that NPO is busy with a more important war and NSO is still in bad shape to fight a alliance smaller than them, Shangri-la comes to save the day. Your inability to fight your own war never ceases to amaze me NSO. [/quote] Oh you! If you would be so kind, could you actually maybe pull your head out of thine buttocks and use logic? Oh wait I forgot you don't know what that is... [quote name='Tir Nan Og' timestamp='1358835198' post='3083300'] Kaskus never quits. I feel your pain NSO. Those guys are just rabid insane. [/quote] I have dubbed them the Black Knight, for they will not quit even when all they do is bleed on you. [quote name='D34th' timestamp='1358837540' post='3083390'] If you don't like to hear that may be next time your alliance man up and fight their own wars, until there shame on you. [/quote] Oh here you go again! So D34th can I ask the logical question, how would you have handled an alliance that won't surrender when (by all conventional standards) they have been defeated but are too proud/ignorant/pathetic/trollolololol/wakaka to surrender? Wait... I don't even know if you have the wherewithal to deal with such a thing.

And don't worry about Commissar Thomas, my good comrade there is getting exactly what he needs to finish you off Bit. Cheers.

I like this.

I'm... I'm... I'm baffled like I can't tell who is pulling the strings here but it just seems like something changed on the field of battle.

[quote name='wickedj' timestamp='1358239252' post='3076736'] Now granted ive been unable to keep up with your latest drama involving faked logs and such but i have a question about this [/size][/font][/color] [color=#000000][font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][size=3]Arent you currently in a state of ban in BFF pending a review of your shens?[/size][/font][/color] [/quote] I can't tell if this is a troll or serious like I would love to know what the $%&@ is going on.

What the hell?

[quote name='The Ace of Aces' timestamp='1358130975' post='3076013'] [img]http://i46.tinypic.com/dysn0i.png[/img] [/quote] This is gold. I want more. MORE!

[quote name='KenoCore' timestamp='1358042485' post='3075702'] I agree BFF and NEW are long time allies. but when NEW and Kaskus come from the same community ( Kaskus) their friendship comes even befire entering CN. add in Nationality ties. and personal real life friendships. you find no one is cliser to New then Kaskus and no one is closer to Kaskus then NEW [/quote] Oh you poor little children I feel so sorry that your heads are so far stuffed up those butts of yours. Not really I hope you suffocate

[quote name='Teddyyo' timestamp='1358042148' post='3075699'] Did you read anythin he just said? [/quote] Knowing Kaskus they read it and said "That isn't our opinion therefore it is void and does not compute! MOAR HEADS UP ASSES PLOX!"

[quote name='sigelopisan' timestamp='1358041402' post='3075693'] You should stoip talking dude... or you will completely sink BFF... Try act llike a real BLOOD FOR FRIEND. [/quote] You should too, along with the rest of the Kaskus bandwagon. From the get-go you and yours have acted like you own the world. That your opinion [i]means anything to the rest of us. [/i]As if we [b]need[/b] to follow your example of disregarding all codes of conduct in forms of diplomacy simply for the fact that you like to watch the world burn. Others have been like you, they all have been defeated. You shall join the ranks of the nameless many of have tried what you are doing, to change the course of history with stupidity and flat out bull-headedness. I applaud you on taking the cake though, you have taken the world stage and [i]almost[/i] sparked a war that would have made no one happy. But now, now if you and NEW continue your foolishness you will actually make everyone happy. So if you could I'd love to see you compound your problems further so that the crater that is Kaskus and soon to be NEW can be even larger, the memory of that event completely wiped out and the world celebrate the destruction of fools such as yourself.

[quote name='Lord Caparo' timestamp='1358036874' post='3075652'] Least we know one alliance still has its balls in place. [/quote] [quote name='sigelopisan' timestamp='1358039950' post='3075678'] What's the use of written public treaty? an MADP? an oath like BLOOD FOR FRIENDS? here I am,... launching my "wakakaka" spell again to you Brehon...... [/quote] [quote name='Lord Caparo' timestamp='1358040662' post='3075686'] I dont see the cancellation of a treaty at all? [/quote] Oh the hilarity continues onward... If I didn't hate Kaskus with every fiber of my being I'd actually [i]pity[/i] these fools! But alas they continue to not surprise me with their stupidity. 1) You sir are mis-informed and should really try using IRC once in a while, but I forgot you indos don't like IRC for some odd reason. 2) Oh you and your BFF jokes, its cute On a serious note though treaties actually add a little bit of 'order' to this chaotic world we call Bob and help define lines and rules of engagement as it were that give the international community at large the ability to partake in civilized discussions and debates and allow for reasonable/unreasonable causus belli to be used as well as causus foedera (sp). You see what you indos seem to be missing is that paper, and signatures hold someone to their word, and if anyone breaks that word then they become liars. I know you know what a liar is. 3) Not yet, but that doesn't mean TORN is going to back NEW in its idiocity to support you in yours. While you might think the rest of the world is as stupid as you are you would be quite wrong. Lots of us like using logic (And I say this with heavy emphasis on the fact that most of the times barely a shred of logic but more than what Kaskus and NEW show).

[quote name='Tiber Septim' timestamp='1358037013' post='3075653'] I thought after Kaskus removed you from your position at Kaskus (and were you removed from the alliance? I'm not 100% on that one.) you might take the hint and stop posting in their defense, or hopefully: Stop posting all together. Why continue to defend an alliance that clearly feels you're a liability? [/quote] Tiber don't try to make sense of what Isaac says, his head is REALLY far up the dark side of the 'moon.' He was warred upon by a nation of Kaskus for not shutting his mouth and subsequently removed/resigned/quit the AA. I find such coincidences to not be coincidences because to be honest it was all too 'conviently' timed. Anyway back to the point... [quote name='sigelopisan' timestamp='1358038852' post='3075665'] Not in a same AA doesn't mean we are not friends anymore. AA is just a "paper". Just like, treaty is a piece of "paper". We value friendship above infra. [/quote] Yes yes how noble of you, we get that you don't have a friggin care for your infra. Quite noble of you the problem is that it doesn't matter what you think of infra or treaties or AAs you are just a bunch of bumbling fools trying to play at being on the world stage. As they say everyone gets 15 minutes of fame, thankfully Kaskus' is almost up.

[quote name='mattski133' timestamp='1358026645' post='3075602'] they're basically the same alliance. [/quote] And this changes anything how? If they are the same alliance then they should just be on the same AA and save us all the headache. Instead they decided to bandy about and act like real idiots. They continue to act like idiots and this is starting to really get on the nerves of everyone.

[quote name='KenoCore' timestamp='1358012653' post='3075499'] im ready for a year long war personally. is NSO. i prolly want peace more then any other kaskus but the one !@#$@#$ thing we wont do is something you cant let go. the unstoppable force meets the unmoveable object. [/quote] Oh good! I will be sure to make sure that you will rot in eternal damnation! Cheers!

I think we all need to remember how Kaskus operates. I shall illustrate this in steps: 1) Is the alliance considered a friend? 2) If yes defend alliance no matter what. 3) <Insert "wakakaka" and taunts about requiring a bloc to beat us> 4) They become a Black Knight type character and start shouting about they will never surrender. 5) The rest of the world looks at them like they are dumb. Kaskus and to an extent NEW operate the same way, trying to show them that BFF had a right to do what they did, were within their power and are honorable for even considering fighting for NEW for even 3 rounds (excluding all rumors and baseless claims) shows that they are indeed about Blood for Friends. As we have seen this is the standard operating procedure for Kaskus and those like them so the best thing we can do is simply burn them all and drink happily when it is done!

[quote name='Unknown Smurf' timestamp='1358005968' post='3075439'] He said I wouldn't be allowed to return to kaskus if I did leave again; something I was not willing to risk. I dunno about that. I think having actual spies is rare and if there actually are any I don't think they would be in NSO. (Nothing against NSO; just saying theres only a handful of alliances that are worthy of spying on and NSO keeps info too tight to be worth spying on imo). [/quote] 1) So Tan et all told you that you'd be banned if you left? Well that sounds like a !@#$-tastic alliance to me! I mean why would they CHOOSE to be willful idiots! You don't help the case that Kaskus manufactured this whole war for the simple pleasure of it. While that is quite acceptable as we all love war the point is you have spent the last 56 pages trying to say that it was the NSO that caused the problem. I wish y'all would stop tripping over each other because it would make this whole mess much easier for you, but as we have found y'all have your heads shoved so far up the dark side of the 'moon' to make this impossible. Anyway cheers to more war! 2) While I will agree with you to a degree about spies being rare and in most cases worthless for most alliances, especially NSO since it is run on a meritocracy and to reach the highest levels of gov where you get all the good information takes months and lots of work and its a great deterent for spies. HOWEVER that does not change that fact that you did attempt to spy, albeit poorly and in a way to smear the honor (I cannot believe I am uttering these words) of Ardus and others to "spice things up." While I applaud the reason for Bob does get boring at times I facepalm at the attempt. To go with the old number out of 10 system you rate a 1/10, only garnering +1 for the fact that you tried to spice things up yet failed for the shear stupidity and quite laughable attempt you made.

[quote name='Isaac MatthewII' timestamp='1357914279' post='3074755'] 461 V. 37 Something to be proud of there. [/quote] You sir are funny. [quote name='Hereno' timestamp='1357936525' post='3074901'] Wait, do you actually think I'm female? Is THIS why you've been creeping like $%&@ on me despite me not even knowing who you are? [/quote] Didn't you know? Kaskus is full of weird idiots.

[quote name='Unknown Smurf' timestamp='1357898173' post='3074693'] Poked and poked and poked?? I literally made [b]one[/b] post about NSO on the OWF. And it has already been proved that kaskus recruited me before Kain approached me in this thread. I did not "run" to kaskus. I was not hiding. I offered myself up in order to let kaskus go. K[b]askus just would hear none of it.[/b] Ancient indonesian proverb (not really): If your idiot younger brother goes and $%&@s some dudes girlfriend; yes you are mad at him but you don't let that dude beat up your younger brother. Check your facts. [/quote] Yet again proving that Kaskus is full of idiot leaders who wanted you to get a "slap on the wrist" and get to walk away scott free. I find that insulting to my alliance and as a person. Spies don't get that kind of treatment when they want to dick people around like you.

[quote name='Walshington' timestamp='1357881699' post='3074582'] My point is, are you in your teens or early 20's? The bet was with Longshadow. He's got kids your age (I've talked to him on IRC), so I will guarantee you he will pay that bet. And I'll back that up: I will bet you 50 tech Longshadow pays off his debt. You in? [/quote] Woah woah woah what bet did I make?!

[quote name='longnameislonger' timestamp='1357867698' post='3074295'] I recently read some logs that make reading the stuff here about BFF's honor seem kind of strange. [/quote] I think we would all be happy to see these, but since only a few people know about them why make accusations that probably won't get backed up? It does nothing but make you look like you are flinging mud for no reason and BFF get what it wanted which is to save some face. The best thing to do is either dump the logs or just not mention them.

[quote name='Isaac MatthewII' timestamp='1357861740' post='3074223'] Man so you take Bob pretty seriously don't you? [/quote] [quote name='Walshington' timestamp='1357861561' post='3074218'] Gotta say I find the INDO flames a little offputting as well. Thought it was because I was so old, but apparently someone else sees it too. [/quote] I think Isaac you miss the point, it doesn't matter whether I take Bob seriously or not its about whether my Alliance is respected when we wish to make negotiations with Kaskus about a spy who tried to bend us over for his own enjoyment. Now when they choose to make it imposible for us to punish said spy and play ring around the rosie with us and stall negotiations people tend to get angry. Its a lack of respect for an alliance that didn't give a crap about Kaskus in the first place and it has continued throughout this war, so excuse me if myself and others are angry with Kaskus for its foolishness. Now why don't you go back to playing KoH's MoIA and not make a fool of yourself and give yet another alliance a bad name. e: typos

[quote name='Isaac MatthewII' timestamp='1357861373' post='3074214'] Seriously you say things like this all of the time. What is wrong with being an Indonesian? [/quote] Absolutely nothing, the only problem is when Indonesians use time zones, language barrier, cultural differences and every other damned excuse in the book to stall and spit in our faces. I find it completely disrespectful how Kaskus and NEW have treated us and I have no trouble wishing them to burn in the deepest pits imaginable.