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[quote name='The Big Bad' timestamp='1355699307' post='3064705'] Congrats to both our allies at NSO and friends at NG. I await the coming of a certain member of MK to tell both alliances how much they suck. [/quote] I'm dying to see him show up as well! *Shares his popcorn with The Big Bad*

I like this.

[quote name='Unknown Smurf' timestamp='1355675921' post='3064577'] Seriously though MK, you let this guy in but not me? I am disappointed. [/quote] Smurf in the eyes of most people you are equally if not worse than Brickyard. Too bad you are just as dense to not realize it. [quote name='supercoolyellow' timestamp='1355676361' post='3064579'] But now rank and file members of every alliance get to see the info the op posted, so it, in fact, informs the average member more, not make things worse for them. [/quote] I think Kriek's point is that while they receive this information (which isn't really that earth-shattering) they won't be able to receive such information in the future from their own alliance's government for the simple fact that those in power will be afraid of certain members going rogue and doing this. My only hope is that because brickyard refused to dump logs it will help nullify the negative effects his roguery and "intel" leaks might have created. As to the actual intel, I think anyone with half a brain might be able to guess the true parts and see through the parts that are embellished. Cheers on the good read and the laughs!

[quote name='suryanto tan' timestamp='1355673157' post='3064571'] Isaac did a good job here. And we at the Kaskus are the one who have the real say on it. As much as you think how relevant your opinion here, you know it is not. And as much as you all like to think about how important and capable you are playing your role in your alliance is, I doubt it is one tenth of what Isaac has done for Kaskus. [/quote] I like what Wu said but I'll add my own piece. From what I've seen of Isaac here, a lack of tact, discipline and an understanding of the english language for all his use of expletives, shows me that he is so inept at foreign affairs that it makes me cringe. You see when you enter into the field of Foreign Affairs it is not the opinion of your own alliance that matters anymore. It is the opinions of the world leaders around you that matter. The simple fact that the majority of the world finds him hilarious and an inappropriate choice for the job shows exactly what we have been saying about him. He should not be leading your foreign affairs ministry. [quote name='Isaac MatthewII' timestamp='1355647704' post='3064509'] I don't wonder, I also don't care. [/quote] This quote here shows exactly what I am saying, a complete disregard for tact simply because he can't handle the criticism being leveled his way and at Kaskus as a whole really. Now I have to say I am happy to see Dopp is back! This changes everything!

[quote name='Esial' timestamp='1355638447' post='3064465'] And you wonder why we wonder how you got a job with foreign affairs. [/quote] This in the extreme.

[quote name='Zacharias' timestamp='1355627461' post='3064393'] If you are so convinced you can take him why don't you make a move? [/quote] Hyperbole is lost on you, how depressing. Just because he hasn't watched Star Wars doesn't mean we should destroy him, but the point is simply that he should.

Do we have Kaskus' permission to blow him up now...

[quote name='Rotavele' timestamp='1355611159' post='3064247'] The government doesn't know how they feel towards C&G either. That's only shown in Archon's boards. [/quote] You mean the guy that is inactive all the time? Or did he finally come out of hibernation? Or did MK do what they did 2 years ago with the NSO debacle and call him in to clean up their mess?

Oh smurf... You make me sad sometimes. We should institute a PZI on him just for the fact he doesn't know that...

[quote name='Rayvon' timestamp='1355603681' post='3064180'] Bend over [/quote] Ray! Save that for private!

[quote name='HalfEmpty' timestamp='1355602502' post='3064167'] As usual RV is correct. NPO hasn't changed a bit and will take us back to 2008 when the air was clean an sex was dirty. Please? [/quote] I like the sound of these. Where do I take the booze?

Gosh darnit! Now all that free tech I sent you will be exposed! D:

[quote name='FurqanTheReformist' timestamp='1355593863' post='3064117'] Smurf.. Dude.. [/quote] Furqan you sound like someone who is itching to have a little bit TOO much fun with someone Is there something you aren't telling us?

[quote name='OctoberBrigade' timestamp='1355587852' post='3064097'] Can we make this a PSA then get back on track? [/quote] I second this statement. All in favor?

Good thing that there is atleast one level headed person within Kaskus, I was beginning to think they were a bunch of hotheaded children playing with toys they have no idea how to handle. Thank you for reinstating my faith that your alliance isn't a bunch of nitwits Tan! I hope this works out for both parties even if I would like to see some action XD

[quote name='Rogal Dorn' timestamp='1355551144' post='3063998'] D'aww... thanks for the compliment RV! [/quote] He really knows how to make you feel good!

[quote name='The Big Bad' timestamp='1355537986' post='3063947'] You really are living in a fantasy world. Has the rest of MK shoved thier heads as far in the sand as you have? It is like you think it 2007 or something. Is this the best you can do? [color=#0000FF] Hey its me RV, lets just forget what MK and company have done lately so I can bring up things by people who are no longer around from several years ago.[/color] Pathetic. Almost as Pathetic as the scum you now run with. [/quote] I'd like to remind everyone, especially RV, that relations between NSO/NPO (at least to my knowledge) have never been at a point where they would blatantly demand outrageous reparations, threaten war when the response was not what they wanted and then would trot out their "noble" leader in Archon to brush everything under the rug and "fix" the issue. If you want to talk about NPO being Hegemony again, then you should look to your own alliance RV. MK and co. have done more things similar to the Old Hegemony than NPO has done since it got off sanctions a few years ago. Since when did you forget about the reaming they gave us when you and I were Sith Lords trying to deal with that debacle of an issue?? That for me has to be the biggest surprise, that you have forgotten the reaming they wanted to give you for airing the dirty laundry of their attempts to extort us... EDIT: Typos

[quote name='Rebel Virginia' timestamp='1355524992' post='3063854'] [color=#0000FF]Oh, how adorable. You NPObots are as original and witty as I remember.[/color] [/quote] Love you too RV

[quote name='Rebel Virginia' timestamp='1355488396' post='3063715'] [color=#0000FF]For all MK's problems, they have never sentenced entire alliances to PZI or chased people out of alliances on a regular basis. I assure you, allow NPO back into power and you will quickly remember why those were unpleasant years. I see the same arrogance and madness that led to those past abuses in the words and actions of NPO's present leadership. Nothing has changed.[/color] [/quote] RV I remember the times when you ranted and raved about MK just like you are right now about NPO, I miss the old RV You might find this useful I can make you a whole tinfoil suit if you want [quote name='Rogal Dorn' timestamp='1355498441' post='3063742'] Awwwww, this makes me want to get you a tinfoil hat for Christmas. Lets make a bet since you are so confident NPO will PZI entire alliances. /me rolls eyes [/quote] [quote name='Cairna' timestamp='1355494375' post='3063729'] Sounds like fun where do I sign up? [/quote] I want to sign up too! [quote name='Hereno' timestamp='1355499224' post='3063744'] Oh god, that was a while back, but yeah I remember that was a really !@#$%* incident. [/quote] Yeah I was a Sith Lord at the time in NSO (OOC under the name of Ashok) and it was terrible, but still exciting nonetheless. It kind of bothers me that RV seems to forget that MK and its collective allies bent NSO over lots of times simply for the fun of it, quite disappointing. [quote name='Icepick' timestamp='1355499595' post='3063745'] To be honest RV, Bob was more exciting back then. [/quote] I want old Bob back, now I have to go to the TE edition if I want any really excitement D: [quote name='Varianz' timestamp='1355509172' post='3063762'] Nah you're still pretty popular here. Come back? [/quote] If he rejoins I will rejoin

[quote name='D34th' timestamp='1355468662' post='3063686'] I think he means the episode that MK threatened NSO with war over some trade circle thing and demanded ridiculous reparations, something like that. [/quote] Yeah and not to mention just general dislike towards the NSO (and RV at the time) for a variety of issues as well. But this was all quite some time ago... What over 2 years ago?

[quote name='BloodFury' timestamp='1355443167' post='3063536'] Don't you have a doctrine that allows you to optionally defend anyone? What is the point of putting it on paper. [/quote] I do believe this is more of a statement that they are rebuilding their friendship and that it might, in the future, progress to a higher level treaty... I mean isn't that the point of all ODP type treaties?

[quote name='Unknown Smurf' timestamp='1355438013' post='3063499'] Do you even read? The whole issue is whether if kaskus put me in govt to piss NSO off or if it was based on my "merit" .. so of course my IA work is critical to this as I was put in the MoIA position. [/quote] And you miss the point its poor form to put someone into a gov't position who is having troubles from an ex-Alliance. That just shows poor common sense and terrible leadership there. [quote name='Umar ibn Abd al-Aziz' timestamp='1355439983' post='3063511'] You're right on the money. This is one of his resignations from Kaskus. [/quote] Oh this is good.

[quote name='Unknown Smurf' timestamp='1355425079' post='3063430'] I quoted your post to emphasize the largest issue here, in my mind.. NSO believes that Kaskus put me in govt just to piss them off, but its actually based on my track record in IA (merits as you said), while there are some that don't agree with my FA abilities (or lack there of) as far as I know there has been no detraction of my IA work -- of which my previous alliances, including NSO, can attest to.[/quote] Why do you keep telling us about your IA work? This is the OWF no one cares about what you do inside your Alliance. Right now you are on pyre for what you have done, no matter the amount of "great" work you do or have done. 1) Your Alliance has shown a lack of good judgement by making you a gov't official (merit notwithstanding) because of the issues you have with NSO right now. 2) You failed to fulfill your responsibilities by hiding from the issues you have created with NSO 3) Now you are hiding and feigning ignorance about the issue when you joined Kaskus These 3 things are what have brought this entire debacle down upon your Alliance when they have done nothing to deserve it. Shame on you U_S and shame on the FA dept. of Kaskus for not doing a better job with this issue. [quote name='Unknown Smurf' timestamp='1355425079' post='3063430']That said I would like to apologize to you if the reason for your message being posted here was misconstrued. It was not meant to 'spin' what you were trying to say or detract from your character at all. From what I gather, Kaskus as a whole is very appreciative of your help in this situation. I recently went to NSO boards as a kaskus diplomat to resolve this once and for all and would like you to mediate if you are okay with that. [/quote] Oh this is a priceless gem...

Hails to both sides! I like this!

[quote name='Unknown Smurf' timestamp='1355393106' post='3063320'] Rayvon said that he had intention of hitting me as of a few days ago (blanking on the exact date but shortly after joining kaskus and before I knew I was on a ZI list officially -- as explained above I knew people wanted to hit me but I did not know I was on a ZI list). I'm not sure why this is still an issue/we are wasting time with it. If theres something I'm missing I would welcome NSO govt to come talk to me -- thoughout this whole thing noone has attempted to contact me to even ask if the logs were legit or anything. [/quote] The issue rests with the fact that your Alliance and you personally lack the motivation or the desire to actually step up and deal with the issues at hand. NSO has already stated they aren't going to war with Kaskus over this but at the same time you and your alliance (while not "officially") continue to spout vitriol at the NSO (and others) with lines that remind me a lot of when Pandora's Box first came into existence a long time ago when the motto of "Do something about it." was at its peak (unless my old rusty bones are missing that it is still a big deal). Why is it so hard/difficult for you to just give up this charade and deal with your issues instead of avoiding the question.