Longshadow

You have me speaking in a Russian accent now, good work comrades!

What is this tyranny you speak of? I don't know what you are talking about. I'm sure Dopp and Co are afraid of you and your 366mil warchest.

1) Directly from one of your most recent posts: "It is you who is preventing this war from ending by not wanting to budge from your version of the outcome and to spin it any other way is deception." It seems to me that you are saying/assuming (and we all know what happens with assumptions) that you think WE are attempting to say that we are winning when we aren't yet all the statistics and facts point to the exact thing we are saying. That we are winning. 2) Oh right, because aiding an enemy of the Order is the best way to get our attention in a way to sue for peace. You are just the most brilliant diplomat ever, Kaskus should have appointed you as their MoFA instead of Isaac. I mean really it would have worked out so much better for them :psyduck: 3) Well you know... There is this thing called pride... And well Kaskus has it bad, didn't you know? Not to mention a serious activity issue and a lack of real care when it comes to politics. But hey if you want to believe the word winning = won then go for it champ!

I'm enjoying listening to you trying to spin this. You are taking quite well to Smurf's philosophy of taking what is said and twisting it and leaving important bits out. Kaskus has lost, we aren't losing NS anymore, our nations that are fighting now? They've been fighting for the majority of the war because Kaskus failed incredibly at bringing down anyone from our top tier. For the 33 of them that have been destroyed, they brought a total of 2-3 down with them. Imagine how that looks, losing 4/5ths of their strength and still trying to spin it as a victory for them. You come here yet again attempting to do the same thing, you aren't winning any points here. All you are doing is making yourself looking like a fool, which is fine for me because while you sit on that "soap box" the rest of the world is laughing at you. But please continue to use the "No U" argument as it makes you so intelligent. What purpose did you think to serve when sending out aid to nations we were attempting to destroy? WE did not drag you into it, YOU dragged yourself into it by sending out aid packages. Had you come to us looking to mediate a peace between us and Kaskus gov't (at the same time on IRC or some other medium) it would have gone over a whole lot better but in this situation you have only made yourself look the part of the fool and will now suffer for being a fool.The only end to this war is Kaskus' leaders coming forward and accepting that the war on the ground has been lost. 4/5ths of their strength gone. The majority of their nations bill-locked and requiring aid to keep fighting, while the few nations who have the warchests capable of maintaining a long war try to fund that war effort only to find they don't have enough slots and nations on their side delete in despair. Facts are facts, there is no spinning facts. Statistically speaking WE have won the war. Morally we have won the war, and in the end WE will win this war through attrition. All you have done is harden our resolve and show yet again Kaskus' true colors in how absolutely idiotic they are. There have never been, nor ever will be reps. You've said there have been reps from the beginning. You continue to say there are reps. This is the lie, on top of the innumerable other lies you have told in your career here on Bob. When will you learn, defeat is inevitable. You have lost. Accept it.

Too funny.

All will join the Order. Or perish before it.

Nah that won't work, Smurf's lies are catching up with him. It's about damn time too methinks. Well aren't you cute, how long did it take you to think up this witty comeback? Seriously though if you are anything like Kaskus, which you are, you will just get beat down into the sub-20k NS range and think you are winning by blowing up smaller nations with no nukes.

Whenever NEW talks I always laugh, they sound just like Kaskus.

Apparently you haven't read this thread at all. TSL sent aid to Kaskus, yet another example of someone "testing" us on it. Its not flexing our muscles if it keeps happening, sure the big name alliances aren't doing anything to test it but that doesn't mean people haven't been testing it.

Well really you can't really do that, because you are nuclear rogues. Such things would be worthless so let's talk about your major opponent only the one you've been at war with for almost 2 months now and the major player in this war.

All I am hearing is that we keep saying the same thing. Victory is ours, Kaskus just has to accept it. they have lost 80% of their total strength from prior to the war while we however around only losing 45%, they've lost almost double what we have. I'd say that's both a statistical victory on top of a moral one. The only thing Kaskus has going for them is that they are tenacious, but tenacity only gets one so far.

Hey when you have a group of people who want to sit under 20k NS beating up on nations that don't have nukes, WRCs etc and call it a war then this explanation will be acceptable but until you've experienced the headache it is dealing with Kaskus you might not want to say we are committing atrocities. Seriously they are a group of rogues, not an alliance and so we are treating them as such. You want to consider Kaskus an alliance, that's funny because they don't seem to be acting like one.

May 4th

Well that's a biased matter, as said Kaskus has to be the one to deal with such aid themselves. The fact that they haven't shows they don't care so we don't mind. However we do care if aid goes to them, see the difference? We act upon those foolish enough to send aid to Kaskus, whereas Kaskus chooses to not act or rather not act in a timely fashion. The point is hard to get I know but it becomes easier once you realize how much of rogues these guys are.

Absolutely not would we be "okay" with aid coming in from anyone. In the NEW situation we had a huge issue with it because NEW does not hold a treaty with Kaskus. In this case our problem is that aid was sent AT ALL. I love elawyering myself but that's just trying to stretch it way too far.

God I love reading logs, they make me all tingly on the inside. How is it that these crap alliances have been allowed to exist for so long? I don't get what is going on here, maybe Pollard is right for once.

1) I did and nowhere does it speak about reparations. We don't want any, so why do you keep talking about it? I guess this is the lie Smurf is feeding everyone to keep y'all at war, no offense to GOONS or anything but we don't want anything from you other than an admission of error. 2) Actually no I saw 3 I have a screenshot if you want it, but it seems you really are dense enough to believe that there is a difference between 1 and 3, it changes nothing what the number is the result is the same. You are a fool who thought to "de-escalate" a situation by escalating it. Why did you need our attentions? Were you sad that your protectors were getting all the fun of beating up on smaller nations? 3) No we are at war with TSL because you decided to send aid packages to Kaskus for the stupidest reason out there, TSL is taking the beat-down now because you were an idiot. End of story right there. Rayvon hasn't lied about anything, I was the one that saw the TSL aid packages, I brought them to him and he went to you. Only to have you spit in his face and laugh at him and try to "resolve" this whole war when you have no power in Kaskus to do that. We are tired of dealing with people who say they "speak" for Kaskus when the only person who truly does won't speak to us because he believes, wrongly, that they are winning this war. 4) Hold your breath all you want, you'll die of lack of oxygen first mate. Awww poor baby, sorry we are busy cleaning up the floor of all the Kaskus piss on the ground.

I bolded the important part. WE DON'T DO REPS!!!! Its an NSO tradition since our founding to not do or accept reparations in any form. All we want is you to admit you made a mistake and to back off, however you don't seem to get that as you think we are liars and losers and believe Smurf and Lord Bit to be the most righteous individuals in this game. The same applies to Kaskus, they admit they lost the war and its game over! No surrender terms, no nothing! A simple admission of defeat and an apology for jerking us around like this for almost 2 months now and everything would be over and we'd get to move on to more fun things. Too bad y'all think you are some kind of military geniuses for hammering our lower tiers into the dirt while you yourselves get blown into the dirt. Kaskus' battle strategy: 1) Get NSO to declare war 2) Suck so much at war that NSO top tier nations blow us up to ZI regions 3) Fight the small nations till they delete and NSO is forced to give us white peace 4) ???? 5) Profit The problem is we know what you are doing and we aren't about to let you continue doing it. Enjoy having an ANS under 10k and enjoy having 1/5th of your original NS. Oh is that propaganda? No that's facts, hard numbers and percentages that show you have now reached levels of true rogue-ness. Welcome to the club TSL you are about to get you collective rear-ends kicked hard. @PPO: We didn't want to give a free pass, he already aided 3 nations that accepted aid, Tan, Smurf and Bit all 3 accepted. It was 4.5mil, 50 tech and 2000 soldiers. At their current levels this allows them to fight for another 2 rounds easily, thank you for trying to say we are bad people. Y'all should learn not to sign with complete and utter idiots like this. e: spelling

If Kaskus wishes to declare war on you because you send us aid, then that's fine! :smug:

This plus the Jihadi means makes me laugh. 10/10

The war we should be questioning is the one between NSO and Kaskus. Being a 5th of their original size you'd think they'd learn its over. Ah well war is fun. The laughs here though... priceless!

Kaskus is their protectors, even if PPO is protecting them as well I don't think they would mind us wrecking them for pulling this stunt. Enough is enough, onward to victory. o/ NSO

Glad you we could make you laugh.

This I think is the main thing, some people have touched on this idea already but I think its fair to say where eQ has its strength and where DH has its strength.

We eat babies too, just not raw. We like ours cooked. Nuclear Baby BBQ best tasting stuff around.