Holy Empire of Halin

[quote name='Anatolian' timestamp='1326151594' post='2896520'] The Hell? You wanted to raid, Eric. Why didn't you go somewhere that that's acceptable? TTE is a nice place where nations are secure from raids, but with that comes rules that you have violated. Our goal isn't to ZI you. No statement has ever been made expressing that we "want to ZI you" ever. We wanted you to uphold the rules and Charter, something that you saw unfair. That is your opinion and you are entitled to it. But please, do not accuse us of being misleading and targeting our government. You can leave the alliance OR the game. [/quote] Yet with the current path the TTE has taken, its very clear that your goal is to ZI him. Actions speak my friend. May I suggest that we put all this behind us? A peace offer to Eric would be a nice start.

If he wants our services he has to pay up, the days giving things out for free are over. Eric, you have to offer us something

Now you dont have to be rude about it. I dont appreciate rude comments when I am trying my best to help.

I am sure you will manage just fine, you can pull it off kiddo. 10 tech aint much.

I am sure that 10 tech is enough to buy leet's support, can you arrange that?

[quote name='ChairmanHal' timestamp='1326145492' post='2896448'] The movement from generalities to a specific example that disproves nothing about the generalities was a tad jarring. Have an aspirin? [/quote] Something about an aspirin in a jar? You can have the whole jar. You seriously need it if you think NEW is an elite alliance.

[quote name='ChairmanHal' timestamp='1325961041' post='2894922'] I actually considered putting NEW in the elite class, and indeed you could make an argument for it. When rating an alliance's war ability, you have to consider: 1. [b]The skill exhibited by individual members[/b] (initiative, knowledge of the combat mechanics, tactical judgment) 2. [b]The skill exhibited by the military command structure[/b] (solid subordinate command leadership, ability to adapt to changes on the battlefield and put plans into action) 4. [b]The demonstrated ability of the supreme military command[/b] (creation of communications and command structure that survives the test of combat, advocacy for military preparedness, ability to see "the whole battlefield" and the implications of actions taking place outside the narrow front of the alliance, contingency planning at the strategic level, ability to organize, prepare, and coordinate within the alliance and with other alliances) 3. [b]Effective use of the military by the those in charge of the alliance[/b] (putting their people in positions to win rather than get mauled and run off the battlefield..."diplomacy is war by other means", institution of programs to promote the purchase of military improvements/wonders, technology and other things that influence combat, mandatory realistic warchests, effective communication of current events that have military implications to general membership) Any idiot can raid. Any fool can point a sword and all the fools that follow him/her charge blindly in the general direction of the enemy. True war ability goes beyond that. [/quote] Yet the NEW guy with 2k tech does the nuking instead of 2 10k+ tech nations fighting the same target. NEW is elite indeed.

[quote name='Yuurei' timestamp='1326016174' post='2895618'] Let me save you some time.... Go ahead and go somewhere else... after your battles expire. [color="#FF0000"][font="Arial Black"][size="5"][b]Yuurei.[/b][/size][/font][/color] [color="#008080"]Chancellor Prime of Terran Empire[/color] [/quote] Do you really have to use that obnoxious sig? OP, your nation size is literally less then the NS of a nuke, a tech deal could "Rebuild" whatever was lost. What we have here is another pointless issue to be discussed on the OWF.

[quote name='darkfox' timestamp='1325886107' post='2894293'] [s]Extorting tech from a single member how very classy.[/s] oops [/quote] Hey, its better then trying to extort exclusive tech deals from an alliance you pre-empted!

[quote name='Sardonic' timestamp='1325875093' post='2894199'] too late [/quote] Literally seconds apart Good to see this war ends. I've had enough of the winter is coming meme's.

[quote name='Merrie Melodies' timestamp='1325873286' post='2894190'] Would you go on record that you find no alliances "worthless"? Edit: So then you agree that you do take reps for offensive wars, but only those offensive wars on those you deem worthless? [/quote] I urge you to stop. GOONS policy on reps is clear, declare an offensive alliance war on them and lose. You will pay "reps". If you are comparing unaligned nations to an alliance then you have the "none syndrome". Though I fail to see GOONS treat unaligned nations to MJ/SF peace thread. You can always debate this matter else war, though if I were Sard, I wouldn't waste my time debating with you since you already have a predefined position.

[quote name='Robster83' timestamp='1325542108' post='2890881'] I actually liked it how SCY done it last year for one of the awards -- a few people from each alliance selected, based on alliance size. I heard it was a !@#$%* to organise it though. [/quote] You still have the year's best DoW regardless of how and who does the awards.

Glad to see this front is finally over. GATO should feel ashamed for the whole thing tbh.

I found this while searching for a dinosaur brush for photoshop. Congrats for reaching the 200 members mark. [img]http://images.kidorable.com/cart/images/P/umb_dino.jpg[/img]

[quote name='Ernesto Che Guevara' timestamp='1325307716' post='2889421'] Ain't no glory like a Wiki page glory, apparently. Exactly. That's why NPL surrendered already. Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't believe Umbrella is doing a whole lot of fighting against NPL right now. Not their fault, just a lack of upper-tier targets. We're simply flushing out the lower tier, that's all. [/quote] We never had targets to begin with.

[quote name='Roquentin' timestamp='1325140810' post='2888394'] Crymson can be a really good guy to talk to even though he doesn't want to talk to me anymore. [/quote] I think it has a thing to do with your current views. The motto now is "with us or against us". No shades of grey.

No. Keep it dead. p.s. I dont know what do you have on your site, but thank god its blocked where I live.

Geerland is italia. On an unrelated point, you should stop posting now.

Nearly 25% of the alliance are gov, excellent membership representation you got there

[quote name='LiquidMercury' timestamp='1324335758' post='2882138'] You don't go to war to be killed, you go to war to kill. Why people still continue to bemoan the fact that it's better to stack NS in favorable terms for yourself in a coalition war is beyond me. [/quote] A great man once said [quote] the New Pacific Order. For years they ruled with an iron fist. They engineered a multitude of first strike "curbstomps,"[/quote] History repeats itself, no?

Have fun, good to see you finally rolling.

I bet you guys feel so special fighting the "cool" side now. Go Go Pacific infra.

Welp, CSN is really really !@$#@$ lucky.

[quote name='HeroofTime55' timestamp='1323347495' post='2869062'] As one of the parties extorted last war, I can safely say this silly e-lawyering loophole of "we didn't extort anyone, honest!" is a load of crap. [/quote] Start saving those rainbows princess! You will have to start payments soon!

[quote name='Krashnaia' timestamp='1323343821' post='2868997'] Mmmmh... let's see... a year and a half ago, pre-emptive attacks were bad and MK justified taking more than 300k tech from the offenders... Now they are up to it and probably going to extort reps, like it's customary in them. Interesting. [/quote] Wow. Extortion? really? is that the line you will keep trying to play? When your incompetent leader was responsible for this [url="http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=98618 "]mess[/url]?