Beefspari

Get back in the box or we'll do to you what we did to Facepunch. [img]http://meru.xfury.net/images/aeris/aerishehL2.jpg[/img]

With some of the amazing possibilities this year, it's going to be hard to pick. [img]http://meru.xfury.net/images/aeris/aerisO_OX1.jpg[/img]

[quote name='IYIyTh' timestamp='1328336683' post='2914340'] Deinos vs. GOONS would be a fun fight. (I'm well aware this isn't going to happen, pre-emptive offmynuts.) Be interesting to see who kept members and if Deinosaurs could coordinate as well as the Gonos. [/quote] It would be like GOONs vs MK or GOONs vs Ella. It would never happen. But we would win. We always win. [img]http://meru.xfury.net/images/aeris/aerishehL5.jpg[/img]

[quote name='Alterego' timestamp='1328111055' post='2912558'] Ive a lot of respect for people who do charity work or donate to charity without an audience to bear witness to their good deeds. [/quote] The reason it's being publicized is because it's a group effort. One person donating anonymously is well and good, but so far doing this has raised awareness and gotten donations from dozens of people who might not have otherwise known about the event. But I guess it's much more realistic to assume that MK is willing to spend hundreds, possibly thousands of dollars so people like them a little more? [img]http://meru.xfury.net/images/aeris/aeris9_9L2.jpg[/img]

I'm starting to wonder if I could just make a bunch of semi-controversial OOC issues about myself well-known, and claim that any attacks on my nation (even if I go rogue, ghost alliances, or sit on none) are [i][b]because[/b][/i] of said OOC issues, and get a big following of people like Schattenmann saying nobody should be allowed to attack me. [img]http://meru.xfury.net/images/aeris/aeriswutL1.jpg[/img]

[quote name='sammykhalifa' timestamp='1328108079' post='2912543'] Nobody is here for YOUR entertainment: they are here for their own.[/quote] Oh, some of them are. Whether they know it or approve of it or not. Sometimes I even get to express my disapproval for micros in a more direct way than just talking about it. [img]http://meru.xfury.net/images/aeris/aerishehL7.jpg[/img]

[quote name='Merrie Melodies' timestamp='1328075990' post='2912361'] Again, it isn't entirely uncommon to take a nation in at war, what would be uncommon is to materially aid that nation. I personally am not abhorred by the attacks on the nation in question or the decision to halt talks after that nation launched nuclear attacks, personally I think the ruler of that nation is a veteran leader and knew exactly what those continued attacks would cause. Almost as if the intention was to get their alliance rolled. All I am saying is there is a history of alliances on occasion taking in a nation currently at war with out giving material support and using said action to destroy that alliance is milk toast at best, not that you guys couldn't or can't do it just that you shouldn't. [/quote] Absolutely it does happen. That doesn't make it a recommended course of action, nor does it make the decision without risks and consequences. There's no sweeping consensus that is accepted by all of Bob on how situations like this should be resolved. These types of things are dealt with on a case-by-case basis. For instance, one goon raid target is accepted by NPL mid-raid: we let that slide. NPL goes out of their way to recruit all of our raid targets: you saw how that ended. In a relationship as tense as the one between MK and RoK, it's not wise to step into the middle of it and expect everything to come up roses. [img]http://meru.xfury.net/images/aeris/aerisdisL11.jpg[/img]

[quote name='Blacky' timestamp='1328073747' post='2912314'] Whether we respond to this escalation or not is our discretion, but if we chose to it would wholly be justified.[/quote] If it counts for anything, I totally think you should. [img]http://meru.xfury.net/images/aeris/aerishehL6.jpg[/img]

[quote name='Merrie Melodies' timestamp='1328072087' post='2912268'] If no aid what so ever is given what possible beef could you have? They aren't limiting your ability to take military action, they aren't assisting her ability to take military action. [/quote] Ragnarok accepted a nation at war with MK. That means an actual member of Ragnarok is attacking MK. And MK is attacking an actual nation of Ragnarok. MK is within their right to escalate it or not as they please. There's a very good reason alliances don't normally accept nations at war, and this is it. At the very least they should have worked things out with MK before accepting her. Ragnarok decided to wedge themselves into the middle of a fight, and will have to take responsibility for whatever comes of it. There's no point in trying to lawyer it. The decision is up to MK and Ragnarok. [img]http://meru.xfury.net/images/aeris/aerisdisL7.jpg[/img]

[quote name='Guzalot' timestamp='1328071140' post='2912232'] MK is attacking mothers in crisis that are going through RL issues for OOC reasons.[/quote] Well, Ragnarok is the one that expelled the nation suffering from this so-called crisis and set the stage to even allow it to be attacked. Shouldn't we be blaming them? It seems to me like MK is just the whipping boy. [img]http://meru.xfury.net/images/aeris/aerisdisL5.jpg[/img]

[quote name='Guzalot' timestamp='1328069561' post='2912195'] So let's keep this on track: MK attacked the mother of a runaway child [/quote] Saying the same thing three times doesn't make it true, clever, or relevant. If you have nothing else to add, it would be better to dismiss yourself. [img]http://meru.xfury.net/images/aeris/aeris-_-L10.jpg[/img]

The only kind of alliance I don't care for is the useless micro. [img]http://meru.xfury.net/images/aeris/aerisdisL3.jpg[/img]

[quote name='JT Jag' timestamp='1327996068' post='2911447'] Perhaps my glasses need an adjustment, but I don't appear to see anyone standing up at all. [/quote] I'm [s]Spartacus[/s] the leader of Ragnarok. [img]http://meru.xfury.net/images/aeris/aerisyayL4.jpg[/img]

[quote name='Timeline' timestamp='1327933753' post='2910585'] So I attack a member of GOONs, and Non Grata attacks me within moments of that attack, however I am sure both goons and Non Grata will claim it is just a tech raid on my nation by Non Grata, but it is more of GOONs been incapable of doing anything by themselves yet again.[/quote] You're right, it is hilarious how you whined this entire time and even almost neglected to rogue us because you were afraid of retaliation by our allies. And then you got declared on by two NGers. Good show NG. [img]http://meru.xfury.net/images/aeris/aerisyayL1.jpg[/img] Also, aren't you the one that's still a coward and incapable of doing anything? How are you going to rogue if you only declared a single war? What kind of damage are you going to do to us going out like that? I'd say you should declare two more, but you're already in anarchy. Wow. [right][img]http://meru.xfury.net/images/aeris/aeriswutR4.jpg[/img][/right]

There's no point in arguing if it was allowable by their charter or not. Right or wrong, illegal or unscrupulous, Ragnarok is going to blindly follow their cult leaders. Instead we should focus our attention on being amused at gradual decline. [img]http://meru.xfury.net/images/aeris/aerisdisL5.jpg[/img]

Watching the trainwreck that is the cult of Ragnarok is quickly becoming a favorite activity. [img]http://meru.xfury.net/images/aeris/aerisyayL3.jpg[/img]

[quote name='Timeline' timestamp='1327888962' post='2909922'] yeah your so frightening, that's why your never able to stand alone ?[/quote] Yes, we're nothing like those reputable alliances that have no allies. Which ones are those again? [img]http://meru.xfury.net/images/aeris/aerisdisL4.jpg[/img]

3/50 won't win you many friends around here. [img]http://meru.xfury.net/images/aeris/aerisdisL13.jpg[/img]

[quote name='Timeline' timestamp='1327857393' post='2909504'] God has called me and I have answered, so I have applied to GoD and had so much fun getting under GOONs skin [/quote] So we already defeated you without you even having to come out of peace mode? Are we that frightening? [img]http://meru.xfury.net/images/aeris/aerishehL7.jpg[/img]

Finally! A situation that works out for everyone.* Rather than compete with Deinos we have simply decided to both be sanctioned at the same time. This is a perfect world after all. [img]http://meru.xfury.net/images/aeris/aerishehL4.jpg[/img] [size="1"]* = Polar does not count[/size]

[quote name='Vanilla Napalm' timestamp='1327715266' post='2908547'] Pretty sure time was the only qualifier in the statement you're quoting. Memorable is kind of a misnomer here; i don't believe we've ever had a rogue who was memorable for his actual rogue activities. [/quote] Yes, my comment was only referring to time spent rogueing since Meth's original comment was about breaking a record for time. Nobody holds a candle to RUKUNU though, who has been attacking us since before my nation existed. Which means he's been rogueing us for over two years. Nukes or not, he's probably done more damage than Meth. Even though Meth seems to think very highly of himself. [img]http://meru.xfury.net/images/aeris/aerisdisL9.jpg[/img]

[quote name='Timeline' timestamp='1327668887' post='2908180'] If i wanted to hear from NpO's lap dog I would have phoned first. [/quote] Dogs don't have phones and Tyga is clearly a cat. [img]http://meru.xfury.net/images/aeris/aerisdisL3.jpg[/img]

[quote name='Hime Themis' timestamp='1327646161' post='2908043'] Good Beefspari Really I insulted everyone. No just those who think making fun of the real life people with OOC insults is cool. It is impossible to talk up to people who go that low. If they are insulted then they need to grow thicker skins or so I have heard all to often from those very same people. I have not seen you post in that fashion so frankly I am surprised you are upset. Respectfully Dame Hime Themis [/quote] Yes, you insulted everyone. Your insults started with your very first post, and have continued through every post afterward, including this one. And you don't have to talk up to people, just on the same level. Which you never do simply because of the way you address people and speak. You're right that I haven't posted on the topic. That doesn't stop me from seeing that you're stepping into a situation you clearly understand nothing about and are only making matters worse. If your goal is to placate the masses and defuse the situation then you have failed completely. Primarily due to the fact that you are only attacking people yourself. [img]http://meru.xfury.net/images/aeris/aerisdisL8.jpg[/img]

I noticed that Hime posted a thread calling for civility and maturity and then immediately started insulting everyone. Amidst her usual grade of talking down to people. [img]http://meru.xfury.net/images/aeris/aeris-_-L10.jpg[/img]

[quote name='Timeline' timestamp='1327643344' post='2907987'] The funny thing with people like you, one day your a lair the ext you forgot and believe your god himself. [/quote] It took me several minutes to even figure out what you were trying to say. I think I've deciphered it, but the sentence still makes no sense. [img]http://meru.xfury.net/images/aeris/aerisdisL12.jpg[/img]