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[quote name='JT Jag' date='01 February 2010 - 08:47 PM' timestamp='1265086074' post='2152161'] We're dedicating most of our attention on the GOONS front. [/quote] We will never relent from both attacking and defending ourselves from the GOONS menace.

[quote name='Vilien' date='01 February 2010 - 01:21 PM' timestamp='1265059300' post='2151056'] I don't know how to make this any easier for you to understand. [/quote] With your apparent gift for using words and being overspecific, there are [i]clearly[/i] a few ways you could have done so. However, I will take the cue from Chimp and invite you to discuss this further on our forums.

[quote name='Vilien' date='01 February 2010 - 06:58 AM' timestamp='1265036291' post='2150463'] My declaration of war was pretty clearly a response to aggressive alliance-wide attacks on TORN, and none of your allies fall into the category of alliances that undertook that action. If you were looking for an excuse to come after me, admit it. Don't give me some pathetic excuse instead. [/quote] [quote name='Vilien' date='29 January 2010 - 03:07 PM' timestamp='1264806472' post='2142547'] The Moralist Front now faces war with our close friends in the Complaints and Grievances bloc. *snip* The Moralist Front recognizes a state of war with every alliance that has attacked and will attack our allies in The Order of Righteous Nations. [/quote] [b][i]Clearly.[/i][/b] Especially since nations from both MK and LOST have attacked TORN.

Alright I guess we can concede that they had a strategy, and they may have also thought about it. But unless their whole strategy was to counter with a single war during those 12 1/2 hours, I think it's fair for us to call the efficacy of said strategy into question.

"Unjust War II: Unjust Harder" "Unjust War II: The Unjustest"

Along a similar vein of "The Second Unjust War": The Unjustified War. Edit: I am not only referring to the initial CB, but there have been some contended declarations on both sides. Not attempting to be bias.

Sounds like the matters were resolved for all parties involved. Good show.

Congrats to both The Corporation and FoA. At least some good has come from this whole situation.

With the help of our allies, I have no doubt that GOONS will triumph.

Good luck GOONS, you'll need it. o/ GOONS o/ GOONS

Unfortunate, but inevitable. Good luck ZH.

Despite (and mostly due to, actually) the RLMMO war, I hold much respect for the members of ZDP. Good luck, guys.

It's a bit wordy, but I like it.

Another reasonable outcome, would be to not simply decomission the turnip, but to replace it, and all current instances of it, with polly. This would improve humor across the board by 1000%, while still retaining the relative meaning of the original messages.

Frogout is the only true solution.

Pretty sure Tokugawa knows what the word "Coincidence" means. You fairly strongly asserted that the combination of the words "Coincidence" and "Coalition" has a more significant meaning, especially in regards to the recent conflict. It would be nice if you could fill us in on what this extra significance is. If you don't feel like it I guess it is fair to say that we will start to "fill in the blanks".

I am curious what happened to the assertion way back that Warbuck's formatting was different than Hoo's? The fact that the snippet this all centers around is lacking the <>'s that surround a user's name in mIRC means that there is no doubt that said snippet has been altered in some way since being copied from Warbuck's log. From this we can't tell exactly what was edited, but it does look highly suspect as it is tampered evidence. Also the argument that it is tough to add a bit to a log with all of the formatting code in it really holds no water. In this age of instant communication, is it impossible to think that Warbuck could have asked someone (perhaps the previously referenced IRC expert) how to do it since this thread has started? (Also, it's easy enough to copy the previous line and paste it again, and replace the necessary parts. Pattern recognition is something that all humans can pride themselves in) Edit: Grammar

I haven't been around long enough to grasp a lot of the political nuances of this war, so it is hard for me to agree or disagree with the specifics of what you've said, but after hundreds of pages of partisan rhetoric, it is refreshing to see anyone voice an opinion that is clearly their own.

Seriously, why is this option not winning?

Fixed.

Worst. War. Ever. Welp, time to sell off all of my infra and take out my rage on unsuspecting newbies.

Entirely backed 100% by this guy.

You are correct, I have no idea what you are talking about. But if you'd like to explain it to me (doesn't have to be here, as that is a mite off topic), I'd be happy to listen. Again, though, I am not arguing at all about the case for war. I am talking about the here and now where war has already been declared and people are asking why diplomacy was not attempted. Obviously in the minds of those who have declared war, their case is valid. From that perspective, what reason would they have to attempt diplomacy, if they have no reason to believe what he says? Also, while this might be my limited experience talking, I was under the imperssion that espionage is orders of magnitude less severe than a cruise missile. And while you can very easily see evidence that a nation is not launching cruise missiles at you, in order to over time forgive them for past transgressions, it is not nearly that easy for espionage.

Since the espionage happened during the war, I'm not sure how the result of the war should have anything to do with the forgiveness of said espionage. It also has nothing to do with the intent. I'm not trying to make a case for the CB itself, as that has been discussed to the moon and back already, but my point is that whether or not your belief is properly founded, if you believe someone to be guilty of espionage, then diplomacy has little value.

Hey guys, I thought Lamuella made it fairly clear that he wasn't using a list to target (or exclude) any one person (or people), and he did not mean for the list to be exhaustive. All he's really doing is advocating some thought process like "Is this necessary?" happening before hitting that big ol' "New Topic" button. Perhaps us GOONS were just raised differently.