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[quote name='Banedon' date='12 February 2010 - 10:22 AM' timestamp='1265998934' post='2177837'] Neneko - There is a reason a lot of people think this is a one way war. Once it's done, SuperComplaints will be free to do what they want, to who ever they want, and there is not going to be any alliance or bloc strong enough to stop them. Athens and FoB have set the tone for the coming new world. If they or anyone else want to tech raid alliances with 50+ members, or 100+ members, or for any reason, or no reason at all, the only thing this side can do is sympathize with the target, declare a few pitiful guerilla wars, and rant on the forums. SuperComplaints isn't going to allow a direct challange. Anyone big enough to possibly be a threat is going to be smashed. Anyone that draws any kind of attention at all will be smashed. This is going to be Hegemony 2.0, just the sides are flipped. New world, just like the old one, only worse. We fight because we're not likely to win, we know that. But we're not going to go quietly into the night either. We're going to have be dragged out kicking, screaming, biting, and clawing since this is likely going to be the last time many are going to be able to do anything. Once the fighting is over, it is quite likely that SuperComplaints will have domination of Digiterra. They will have reps, and tech, and the NS to enforce that domination since pretty much everyone in every alliance and bloc is throwing everything that they have on the line. Once SuperComplaints is the victor, there will be three sides. SuperComplaints, NpO, and everyone else. NpO isn't going to last long. NPO will be rebuilding just like everyone else, and who knows, Athens et. al. may decide that NPO got to big during the rebuild so they launch another war, simply to rake them over the coals again. Not like there's anything anyone else will be able to do to help. There's so much hate for Purple on your side of the fence, I don't doubt there will be overt and covert attempts to break up the sphere. This may be our last hurrah, but damn if we aren't going to take as many of you down with us as we can. [/quote] Our last hurrah was GWIII. And then the UjW. And then Karma. Didn't you get the memo?

I have been talking with several people on the other side of this debacle. It looks like we might be coming to a resolution, and I hope we shall have an official joint announcement clarifying the situation. Thread over.

[quote name='Matthew Conrad' date='11 February 2010 - 08:41 PM' timestamp='1265949671' post='2176577'] So your government didn't communicate with each other before one of you came forward to accept peace? That's certainly helpful. [/quote] No. The veto was set up after this BBs announcement was posted.

[quote name='Matthew Conrad' date='11 February 2010 - 08:28 PM' timestamp='1265948938' post='2176535'] Why would Legion be vetoing a decision that was never made, sunshine? Seriously, next time your government should talk to each other before you make decisions. I feel like that's what most governments do. [/quote] It's a safety. Since we couldn't reach Hubb to verify whether or not he made the decision, we decided to veto it. [quote]I dunno, the veto process going on? Fingolfin posted a snippet of him saying something he never did. He just took off. Imperial was asked if there were any issues and he said it was a personal disagreement.[/quote] The veto was started AFTER this post on the BBs, when everyone was like 'wtf'. I'm looking into the IRC issues, and will post more on the subject when I finish talking to those involved. [quote] The apparent massive rejection of peace.[/quote] Because that's an internal matter and non-official. I was using that as an indicator to say that I thought that Hubb's statement was misinterpreted, NOT that it had any official bearing on the decision.

[quote name='joracy' date='11 February 2010 - 08:22 PM' timestamp='1265948547' post='2176510'] So uhh, after your gov says he is acting under orders from Hubb, did nobody think it might be a good idea to tell Sparta et al about this? [/quote] Bout what?

[quote name='Kindom of Goon' date='11 February 2010 - 08:15 PM' timestamp='1265948159' post='2176484'] No, they themselves have said a number of times he agreed to peace and they're working to veto his decision. [/quote] Watcher was vetoing the decision either way, until we could get in contact with Hubb to verify the legitimacy. We got contact. Something went wrong. I'm working to figure out what happened.

[quote name='Matthew Conrad' date='11 February 2010 - 08:10 PM' timestamp='1265947847' post='2176465'] [20:37] <Hubb[Legion]> If it's white peace, then it's white peace. 01[20:38] <LW[Away]> It is white peace and you, MASH, Quantum cannot re-enter this war, nor aid your allies until afterwords 01[20:38] <LW[Away]> And if you don't take it tonight, this offer is gone [20:38] <Hubb[Legion]> Legion and allies have white peace with Sparta and allies. [20:38] <Hubb[Legion]> I understand that. Enjoy your opportunism. [/quote] Hypothetical situation discussion in regard to phrasing, sunshine. Check the rest of the logs.

From Hubb on his phone posting on the Legion boards: [QUOTE]I'm on my iPhone right now. We have been in discussion all day. No member of this government gave permission for anything to be posted, as we were still in the discussion phase. Again, no final decision was made.[/QUOTE] As expected, misinterpretation by Sparta.

[quote name='goldielax25' date='11 February 2010 - 07:47 PM' timestamp='1265946428' post='2176349'] Well according to your charter, the Imperator decides on peace, not a vote. [/quote] This is correct. I am saying that having talked to Hubb and seen the results of the various votes, I doubt he intended his statement of white peace as anything other than a presentation of a hypothetical situation. Misinterpretation, anyone?

[quote name='King William IV' date='11 February 2010 - 07:41 PM' timestamp='1265946113' post='2176324'] I think he was saying that he understands your offer, not that he was actually taking it [/quote] This is how I read it... I think we would have heard something about peace, as to my knowledge it was resoundingly voted down by both the General Membership and the senior advisory council.

[quote name='mhawk' date='11 February 2010 - 11:23 AM' timestamp='1265916198' post='2175279'] Soldier of legion were fighting Legion? Anyways congrats I think [/quote] Civil war.

[quote name='Schattenmann' date='10 February 2010 - 10:54 AM' timestamp='1265828052' post='2172902'] I think it will end not too long after TOP and IRON realize that you don't get to attack a bloc then say "oops we got duped, sorry" and walk away scot free. The mods and wiki might say this has all been the same war, but the people calling the shots say it's not and until some people come around to reality the war will keep going because frankly SuperComplaints has all the justification they need and all the NS they need to keep it going for as long as it takes that realization to come. [/quote] I'm pretty sure they realize that. God knows they've been yelled at for it.

[quote name='gambona' date='07 February 2010 - 09:36 PM' timestamp='1265607401' post='2168239'] I will say this for Legion, they are punctual. 30 minutes before update, CM attacks, Aircraft attacks. Immediately after update, really pretty fireworks. Your allies are lucky to have you. [/quote] No you hang up.

[quote name='Hyperion321' date='07 February 2010 - 10:58 AM' timestamp='1265569125' post='2167096'] Doesn't matter how big or small they are, friends are friends. and judging by the fact that Legion sent M*A*S*H after only Asgaard, I'm going to assume Asgaard has been bringing far more pain than you or Legion could have ever anticipated. My two legion opponents would also probably agree: http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display_charts.asp?Nation_ID=88097 http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display_charts.asp?Nation_ID=24840 [/quote] Asgaard and TTK have been bringing some very decent fight. You're lucky to have them as friends. Your two Legion opponents are loving it.

[quote name='Darklink7748' date='05 February 2010 - 10:39 PM' timestamp='1265438353' post='2163620'] Since you first started existing in CN, that would be when. I'm truly charmed you sent your top nations after me, but it seems even your "best" can't keep up with the Spartan war machine. [/quote] Look at Sparta's strength chart, please. Thank you. I admit, it's very tough to keep up with the war machine. It just falls so fast.

[quote name='lonewolfe2015' date='05 February 2010 - 04:38 PM' timestamp='1265416722' post='2162393'] It's a battlefield moreso, and Legion can refer to mostly anything military or angelic I suppose too. So I figured it worked both ways. I mostly wanted to try and make a cool battle/war sig. Wasn't going for super propaganda against yall cause I'm not that developed at it nor had a good idea. [/quote] Gotcha. It is extremely good.

[quote name='lonewolfe2015' date='05 February 2010 - 02:46 PM' timestamp='1265409980' post='2162199'] I spent over 3 hours on this... so go easy on me. First quality sig I've made, 3rd ever. [img]http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv229/lonewolfe2015/Asgaard_War.jpg[/img] Meant to be more of a War Banner with just a flare of mentioning it's Legion we're at war with. [/quote] Very cool, but... aren't those dead vikings?

And now for an e-peen comparing competition: WE CAN FLY HIGHER THAN YOU HAHAHAHA. Welcome to the field.

[quote name='Redneck' date='04 February 2010 - 09:54 PM' timestamp='1265349250' post='2160708'] ill see you when you slide down a few notches. save a few nukes for me! [/quote] Much better. Courtesy begets courtesy.

That wasn't very polite. Protip: when you're attacking someone who can eat you for breakfast, show a little courtesy. Or hell, show some courtesy anyway. We've dined in hell before. Can you say the same?

[quote name='Cooldude247' date='02 February 2010 - 10:47 PM' timestamp='1265179631' post='2155872'] Maybe not......both sides only brought shields and no weapons..... Welcome guys! Hope to see some of on the battle field, even though your on the other side. [/quote] Ain't you ever heard of tree F&^$ing? Someone needs to read Gates of Fire...

[quote name='Joe Stupid' date='02 February 2010 - 10:37 PM' timestamp='1265179050' post='2155822'] Legion, aren't you just sick of losing? I'm !@#$@#$ sick of watching you lose. Best of luck Sparta and Tool. [/quote] This wall we keep slamming our heads into is going to break before our skulls do. We're dumb stubborn.

Don't hold this against you at all. See you on the field.

I'm a bit late to the party, but didn't you support Athens against TPF during the last war?