Bralor

Fair enough.

Ethics? Riiight.

So what, you're trying to push them into supporting NPO?

This is actually sad really. I'm actually shocked. Wow. Just wow.

If you want my opinion on the matter, while I sympathize with Karma, I think that this war is a result of a failure to listen on both sides. One side continually tries to claim superiority both politically and morally when it is clear that both sides have contributed equally to the degeneration of events that have lead us to where we stand now.

This is the beginning of the end for you, my love.

Impressive!

Drive me closer! I want to hit them with my sword!

Lovin' it.

Took you long enough

Very big of you. I'm impressed by the amount of humility in this post. I predict great things for TORN.

Classy as always MHA. Classy as always.

Shhh! They are watching! B)

You made a public post on the OWF, because one of two things would have happened had you utilized private IRC channels like any other normal, functioning alliance. One, you would have been flatly denied an audience, and therefore snubbed and reduced to a post such as the OP. Two, you would have been given an audience, if only out of annoyance, and likely not taken seriously, if your OP is any evidence to your true motives. As I said earlier, I sincerely doubt that RoK would ever agree to the terms you've laid out. Those being the request for peace, then the direction of your spies to assist RoK and then resume their espionage after the war concludes. So, whether or not you made this post with the intent of begging for a peace settlement, you would not have posted, unless you had at least had some knowledge of the great possibility that Ragnarok would have sent you away empty handed.

I don't care for their rhetoric either. I prefer to develop my own opinions. As for why I am here, I told you. I was stating my opinion. It is neither here, nor there. Right, nor wrong. It simply exists. It's not a requirement for you to acknowledge it.

Good luck to you guys.

Zeta, what have I told you about playing with Trolls?

Fair enough. Frankly, I can't seem to grasp the fact you had the balls to admit to the fact you will continue your espionage, and yet have the nerve to beg for peace in the same post. It's actually somewhat amusing considering that I am sure that Ragnarok likely has little interest in granting your request. As I said, it's an honorable intention. But the fact is that you are playing dirty, and as long as you do such, you should expect no concessions in return.

You make me sad Vladimir. I thought I was a realist. I could have sworn I said I call it as I see it. Also, what political argument?

I know them enough to tell that they aren't as "fantastic" allies as I would want. These are my opinions, but it seems as though they are rather willing to play as dirty as possible. I prefer my allies to be honorable in intent. If you're going to negotiate, as I said elsewhere, do so in good faith and not with a preparation to screw the other parties over in the end.

I understand what I see. I see a wall of text. I don't care to read it. I've done nothing but point this out, and add my observation that you seem to enjoy people flocking to your seemingly well worded and articulate posts. Care to point out why that's a character attack?

This is about as much sense as I can make from this thread. I don't know about a victim, since nobody is taking this seriously (if you are, smack yourself because you're a moron).

Definitely a good thing. I predict great things these next two months.

While your intentions are noble, if Ragnarok has any sense whatsoever they will deny this request, given that you have already made it clear you still have hostile intent and motivations towards them. Rather than asking your currently "embedded nations" to leave Ragnarok, you have simply told them to support them during the conflict and then resume their obviously malicious activities once the conflict has been resolved. Clearly not any sort of concession on your part at all.

I stopped reading here, because I realized that with the addition of a link in this post, as well as a link in your forum signature, as well as numerous links in your wiki, you're an attention whore. But seriously, nice article, I think?