TigerBaby

Yes i'm sure everyone respects and understands a bunch of people from an alliance almost 20% of which freaked out and went rogue inside a matter of days. Obviously rational and reasonable types and anyone who doesn't understand that is obviously irrational.

That was no demand. That was a flippant remark thrown in after having to repeat himself over and over which was becoming rather tedious.

This entire thread has nothing whatsoever to do with Ordo Paradoxia and neither did the negotions he mentioned.

So now you want ME to do what YOU were challenged to do? Take a look back over this, you went from fact to claim and now you want me to do what you were supposed to.

I'm not going to produce any private material for you or anyone else. But i'm taking note that what you first stated as fact is now being downgraded to a "claim" That alone speaks volumes doesn't it. I told you what to produce. Somone who can validate what is now merely a claim. I can produce a government member, can you?

I don't have to do anything so you can forget this drivel that i'm in any spot. I'm not Atztec or CTA government and one more fact, neither are you and in addition to that you're not even a member of any of the alliances involved in this affair but I am. Yet here you are insisting that your opinions are the be all and end all while the facts given by someone who has actually seen the discussions these facts concern is not as reliable a source as you are. Right??? And you see no problem with that right??? Well tell you what. You produce someone who has actually seen what I have seen to validate your claim of being all knowledgable on this issue. If you can't then I suspect any credibility you have on it is shot through.

You can stick to whatever you want, it's totally irrelevant. Once again I repeat, I have seen the discussions and you're way off target. But you seem like the type of person who would argue that black is white if it suited one of your opinions so I will stick with my actual facts and leave it at that while you continue on whichever path suits you.

Well fact is I have seen all dealings between them and another fact is that never happened and yet another fact is I don't recall seeing you there so that just leaves the fact of how your facts become facts.

I shall definiely consult your obvious wisdom in future. I wont even bother asking for your opinion on whether they would have been begging for mercy if they hadn't been totally crushed inside about 15 minutes because it's pretty clear what the answer to that would be. See I happen to have knowledge on this matter that you don't, facts not mere guesses and if you had those same facts you wouldn't be quite so hasty to claim the authorative opinion.

Yes it's obvious that it had nothing whatsoever to do with the fact that they were blown away by a perfectly executed blitz that left them dead in the water. All that is peripheral.

CTA = 70 + Aztec = 47 = 117 ODN = 81 + RnR = 28 = 109 Difference = 8

More thanks for your obvious genius. Another thing I wasn't aware of was that referring to people as ignoramus is IC but asking a question that had previously been referred to is OOC. I'm glad you're here to clear all this up for me and all the rest of the ignoramuses you referred to. And that obviously didn't imply they were unintelligent because you wouldn't do such a thing. That would be OOC? I wait with baited breath on your judgment.

I wasn't aware that anyone was buying wonders "OOC" But no doubt that's just another sign of us all being so ignorant in comparsion to you.

Yeah i'm sure everyone around here bows down to one so knowledgable and tactically aware as you are. BTW out of curiosity which wonder are you getting?

There isn't a shred of sense in this entire concept. LOL This person lcearly has no coneception that wonders are a costly worthless burden unless there are no useful improvements left and your nation is a high earner. Let's look at what the game help page says about wonders. "When purchasing national wonders do not expect a huge return for your investment. That is not the point behind national wonders. Instead, national wonders are intended for those nations who are reaching the very peak of their nation development due to nearing maximum development in infrastructure, land, improvements, etc... to give those nations a slight push above their competition. Therefore national wonders are not intended for everyone and are instead intended to provide a slight strategy for the most advanced players and an additional goal for everyone to strive to" That says it all but don't expect it to sink in. Anyone at his level and even below will be paying far less in bills and have a higher income through more intelligent building and thus he will be annhialated in any war. As for cruise, it wont cost any opponent much more to buy a couple of cruise to drop on him daily than he pays in bills daily to hold on to 50 for no reason while they do the same amount of damage to him without that bill burden. He worries about having little money in wartime while telling us he has $30 million and wants to throw it away on a wonder that would take years to pay for itself when if he just kept that money then there would be no financial concerns for any war. The chances are his nation wont exist long enough to EVER recover that money which makes the reason for buying it totally pointless. This whole thread is one of the most comical and nonsensical I have seen in sometime.

OK I would suggest if you don't want to hear sense from these people who know what they are talking about that you should perhaps think on refraining from making pointless posts and go about your business in whichever pointless fashion occurs to you.

You're not digesting what people are saying, the best wonders are the best income boosters. Considering you don't even have all the best income boosting improvements or anything like it then there are no good wonders for you. It would be retarded to spend tens of millions on a wonder when a fraction of that amount could get you the same effect with improvements. It's. That. Easy.

You are way too small and have too few economy boosting improvements to be improvement swapping or to be paying for aircraft and cruise. Why anyone would even want to put dozens of cruise on the bills at all is baffling in itself. In a war you can only fire off two a day at an oppenent and you will lose the bulk of them in bombing raids. Even large nations don't sit on dozens of cruise because it's totally pointless. If you carry on like this you will be standing still and may even operate at a loss in which case you wont even be standing still, you will be going backwards. I'm not sure you even quite understand improvement swapping. If you don't have enough money at the end of a back collect to switch out the labor camps and replace them with the 5 best economy boosters available to you and still be in profit then improvement swapping isn't for you.

I dealt with this case and I can assure you that we were more than reasonable and extremely patient with this individual as he dragged the whole situation out over a few days. He launched a totally unprovoked sneak attack on one of our members then expected us to just give peace that involved no repercussions of any kind. When he discovered that wouldn't be the case he at first point blank refused to pay any reparations at all then when it was pointed out to him that this would mean an alliance strike team reducing his nation to rubble he agreed that he may pay reparations but he wanted to decide a figure. Is it normal for any alliance to accept orders given to them in such a scenario or is it more common that the alliance makes the terms not the sneak attacker? The terms given to him were a fair representation of the damage done by his attack though since these things can be sort of vague to calculate it was a rough estimate with a little added on to make sure our member wouldn't lose out in any way. After agreeing to pay reps to avoid destruction he then returned to evasion mode, "I don't have the money" He was sitting on in excess of 200 tech at the time so a cash/tech deal was proposed to get this settled and over with. He continued to be evasive about paying at which point we informed him that he either accept our proposals or attacks would commence immediately after the next update. Then lo and behold he somehow found the money he claimed he never had, sent aid offers to our member 2 or 3 times then immediately cancelled them. And with 20 minutes to go before the update made an offer which this time wasn't immediately withdrawn and our member accepted. And now comes here complaining of injustice when he was the one who deliberately launched an attack on an aligned nation? Now if anyone can seriously find any injustice in all of this I would be interested to hear it. I notice he is now banned from the forum but his nation is still in the game.

Moving up.

RIA. Talk to the paw.

That's entirely down to me. Alliance babe magnet.

I can cover all of that in just a few sentences. Firstly don't mistakenly think that you are taking on an alliance. You are doing nothing more than pestering the lower end of an alliance for no reason other than to make these defenceless inexperienced newbies "angry". Now you may think that's a pretty lame objective but some don't. You will be sniffing around the $@! end of an alliance. The end that can't effectively fight back while you bravely endeavour to keep out of range of those who can fight back. For an analogy think of a little dog hanging on to the tail of a big dog till he is shaken off and chomped. As for growing bigger and going nuclear perish the thought. That means getting into the territory of those who aren't defenceless.

OK. After a quick check ot the forum rules I could find nothing there mentioning any need to avoid making posts that annoy you. So until that may change I will keep on posting regardless of what annoys you. Further. Until I may take a knock to the head or perhaps a frontal lobotomy I will refrain from destroying a prefectly good nation I spent time building up on the ridiculous suggestion by someone who is annoyed that I should do so to follow the same path as some going nowhere joke attention begging by attacking new defenceless nations. Hope that was of help to you and not too annoying.

So let me get this straight. You want me to throw everything away after months of building, drag my nation down to newbie level to prove that I can load up on guerilla camps and barracks then lurk around the clock watching for these low level nations to accept aid then flatten them with an overwhelming soldier efficiency and steal their money? You just keep on waiting. The act of doing so would be even more absurd than the suggestion.