TigerBaby

[quote name='paul711' timestamp='1357537356' post='3072300'] /me hugs Tigerbaby [/quote] Just as I predicted, grunt and say nothing because there is no denying the reality of the lowest move of the round so far and even the attempts to deny it are infantile at best. And one of yours had the audacity to talk abot a challenge while you along with two cohorts "challenge" someone with half the infra? But again, you have set your own standards and have no avenue of complaint no matter what anyone else does to you. I'm sure someone will take full advantage of your apparent standards at the worst possible time just like you did. You set yourself up for it.

[quote name='paul711' timestamp='1357535581' post='3072289'] Then yes I will expand upon my statement, Einstein. You are using stats are almost 24 hours removed from our pre war buildup, the damage done by our blitz, and your lack of military buildup of course they will be lopsided (dare I say they are gonna worse in an hour). I explained erlier that in OP we help each other without regard to our own nations. The link came up in our irc channel that one guys partner had not shown up and I clicked it and attacked, period, end of story. [/quote] More utter !@#$%^&*. Anyone can look at my chart and see that before it I was still a mere 5,557 NS, Einstein and the entire alliance average was no better than that, Einstein. And the only reason my NS as an example is still above 5K at all is because of the military. And enlighetn everyone further. You're excuse is you just cliked on a link and and that was that. Was that the same for your entire alliance? They all accidentally found themselves attacking people just out of war and with a vastly inferior NS and infra count? You're getting more pathetic by the minute. Continue it. I love the opportunity to remind everyone what creeps your lot have been and that they need not give you ANY respect of any kind in this round. If you're just out of war and they vastly outstrength you then tough. YOU set your own example.

[quote name='paul711' timestamp='1357534530' post='3072283'] We wouldn't dream of it, you are doing fine all by yourself. lol [/quote] Want to expand on that or just grunt and say nothing? Expand on it with this and you can share it with stat guy Einstein. SUN just out of war average NS 5,069 OP never in war average NS 8,942 YOU, Einstein, sitting collecting for 3 weeks NS 10,193 attacking me, just out of war the day before NS 5,076 and half your infra. Got any further fantasies about these realities?

[quote name='Thomasj_tx' timestamp='1357531373' post='3072269'] Tiger, your repeated claims that there is a huge disparity in the comparative statistics is a fallacy. Please take a look at the real statistics I posted this morning. Thanks! [/quote] Frankly, what a load of !@#$. CT is IRRELEVANT to the fact my alliance is just out of war and has a far lower average. Tell you what stat guy. Forget this pretence of trying to pad it out with CT who are half your size and focus your mind on what I have been saying. SUN NOT CT are just out of war. Try hard to digest this. We were in war and on the final day of that war the server crashed. When i got back to it on the 5th I bought back some lost infra and made a 5 day collection and then was attacked by 3 of your crew who ALL have double or close to double my infra the VERY NEXT day. Trying to avoid an actual war but I doubt you will because despite the antics of you and your mates no one is fooled. You sat in peace collecting for 3 weeks and you're telling me that I am in a similar position just out of war with a 5 day collection? You know where you can stick that drivel I presume?. Don't try to insult my intelligence again. In fact do. I will just point it out all over again to prevent you the chance of trying to spam the reality of your pretend war away.

[quote name='14dwright' timestamp='1357523874' post='3072219'] Sorry about the fact that only 1 SUN nation has more NS than me, or the fact that I took on two Citadel nations alone (1 I now have a partner and that 1 being the second strongest Citadel nation), or the fact that your ANS isn't as high as ours. I said sorry, now you can get over it. [/quote] So now you recognise you're a sorry low down bunch who lurked around waiting for an alliance just out of war and with a far lower average to ambush and pretend you're at war? You know WHY SUN don't have as much NS as you? THEY LIKE ME ARE JUST OUT OF WAR THE DAY BEFORE!!! And unlike you haven't been sitting there for 3 weeks doing nothing but building NS. We were in war after 10 days while you did nothing but build NS waiting for the chance to take advantage. Now you're admitting to be the cowards of the round in the first 3 weeks and trying to hide behind a non war you can be sorry when others play the same card on you as is likely because you can have no complaints when they do. If they hit you right now you can have no complaints but don't worry about that. They will apologise and say oh well then you can get over it.

So you're telling me that there is this invisible omnipotent magic sky wizard who knows everything that has ever happened and everything that is going to happen. So why bother with humans and the whole Earth waste of time at all? This magic sky wizard already knew exactly what would happen, he knew humans would reject him but he went right ahead and created them anyway so he could then burn them in hell for something he already knew they would do. Sounds like a bit of a dick to me.

[quote name='Swatch0' timestamp='1357516708' post='3072175'] Boo hoo, we hit you guys after y'all did a tech raid... Good luck in this war SUN/Citadel, I for one hope my nation survivers after this war haha [/quote] Thank you for the estimation that our war against an alliance which wasn't just out of a war and who had the same average we did and a third more nations than we did as a tech raid. You just put your farce in persepective far better than I did. Give everyone a label for that farce now. That will be a lot more interesting. How about pseudo war trying to pretend to other comparable alliances that you need a breathing space after this? You think you have fooled them? Don't bank on that.

[quote name='14dwright' timestamp='1357514773' post='3072166'] Uh oh, looks like we got the formation of a rogue... Edit: You're not in my range so I take back my offer. [/quote] Laughing my socks off, you continued the absurd logic I just pointed out. You address nothing and illustrate what i'm talking about by saying to a guy who is already being attacked by 3 of your nations who have double the infra I do that I should come and get you. I'm in anarchy and not even in your range tough guy. YOU go get someone who isn't in anarchy and isn't just out of a war and who is on a par far less barely in range like your tough alliance has done. Until then you have nothing to say that doesn't illustrate the point of this farce. You have no avenue of complaint no matter what happens to you from here on.

Look I realise it's a game but for crying out loud at least try to keep it up above an infantile logic level. Here is the absolute undenial reality. One alliance attacks another that's effectively just two days out of war and in my own case one day. I was in war then on the final day of that war the server went down. I found out the server was back on the 5th, replaced some infra and made a collection then was attacked by a bunch who had double my infra and NS the very next day. And that's the reality across the board. This lot sat there and instead of taking on alliances who have not been in war like they haven't they picked on one that was just a day or two out of it and had a far lower average nation strength. Then try to talk infantile crap that's supposed to convince us or anybody else this is a fair secnario? To the rest of you they should have been fighting with you must obviously know as I do this is a farce that's supposed to get them out of fighting a proper war for weeks. Well given that my alliance didn't get the respect of a breathing space from them they haven't earned that respect either. Go at it. Hit their asses the moment they play out their farce or even before because if you don't you're leaving them to play out this pantomime then sit for more weeks doing nothing. They have set their own rules with this crap. Play them by their own code.

[quote name='Stelios' timestamp='1357456758' post='3071958'] and OP are better fighter.. Also like to say.. SUNs first war was crap.. but it still costs money and stuff to do what they did.. so another thing OP has on them.. Bad war was bad.. Stay Frosty [/quote] So what do you class as "better fighters" against an alliance effectively just out of war 2 days ago? Is it this example of my own? Three attacking me, one has 1,980 infra and 10,138 NS to my 959 infra and 5,684 NS and who has nukes to my none? Is he the real bad ass tough guy? Or maybe the other two attacking me one of whom has 1,881 infra and the other has 1,640 infra. Maybe they are the really good fighters? Maybe if I had been just one day out of war and not two that would make them even tougher? Better fighters indeed. LOL

[quote name='Owney OSullivan' timestamp='1357453992' post='3071946'] I didn't follow your war and frankly I don't even know who you fought-but looking at your alliance chart, you guys didn't seem to take much of a hit. Doesn't look as if you actually lost any NS. I guess you had an easy enough time, maybe it's time to step up to the plate for a challenge? That being said, I don't read these forums much and I don't plan to search them so please educate me so I can better understand your point of view. When did your war end? How long did it last? Who did you fight? Please don't mistake my indifference for ignorance, I'm just lazy. [/quote] Fine. By your own logic all other alliances can be indifferent to your own situation. You freely admit you don't give a toss about the situation anyone else has been in so as I said you're obviously now fair game for anybody at any time because you will understand if they are entirely indifferent to what your recent situation has been wont you.

[quote name='the wompus' timestamp='1357451213' post='3071930'] [size=5]We at OP have been planning a war for quite some time now.[/size] [size=5]There always seems to be some sort of issue pop up.[/size] [/quote] Yes we understand the issue. You have to lurk around waiting to catch someone just out of a war and that must be tedious indeed but it's noted that you think it's fair game. I'm sure what goes around comes around and you will have no complaints if someone else lurks to do the same to you perhaps right after this.

[quote name='Alexandros o Megas' timestamp='1356787501' post='3069093'] Please tell your doctor to change you the pills ... you are obviously in another reality! [/quote] Believe me son I would need a dealer not a doctor to be convinced that a 2-1 down declare is anything but low and coardly and THAT'S reality.

[quote name='Alexandros o Megas' timestamp='1356756842' post='3069019'] TPC has 23 nations out of 26 in anarchy now and what they do? They bring "new" nations - of 0 days - like New Assyrian Empire and Vagian Federation to use as attackers. Another old trick? Who needs to win by all means? ("new", rogues, crypto-alliances, hiding in caves etc. etc.) [/quote] You're losing touch with reality if you truly think you can convince anyone that what you have done is anything but as low and cowardly a blow as I have seen in this game. I'm confident not TPC nor anyone else will forget how low helias have sunk with this and it leaves you no avenue of complaint no matter what happens to you in future.

[quote name='Tevron' timestamp='1356626669' post='3068496'] Well, actually, I announced that I was going to war in the next few days, so you should have respected my alliance and my words rather than declaring on us. There were much better targets for SUN. Also, your stats are off. You declared war while keeping your NS down, followed by a large purchase of military etc. You now have 19 nations above 5k NS. Silly Silly War. [/quote] What in the world are you talking about? When they told me the target alliance I checked and we had an almost identical average NS. Then we militarised and our average climbed so by your own logic YOU were keeping NS down by not militarising? See the irrationality in the argument you're trying to present? Now what is it you want people to do? Send you a card letting you know it's coming so you can militarise first when many other alliances remain in a state of at least semi militirisation at all times while you didn't?

[quote name='paul711' timestamp='1355092963' post='3062211'] Maybe if you ask nicely someone from OP will come play with you. In all seriousness this isn't a very organized attack, just end of round, and OP have the green light to hit whom they wish and to have fun. [/quote] You don't appear to have a nation in the game that matches the one you're showing here and that's something I myself was once warned about. Do you have a nation in the game?

Not that anyone really cares at this stage but it's noted that you waited till TPC had been engaged for 3 days and couldn't respond with declarations of their own just as helias wanted it set up for them. Fun maybe but I don't think anyone will be viewing this bandwagonning as heroic. Let's see you attempt to spin it into noble and heroic. LOL

[quote name='Clash' timestamp='1354952374' post='3061697'] BTW we were going to hit TPC before you guys came to us, and I delayed our plans in order to listen to you guys. It would have been a fun war, if Hallas had the sack to do it. [/quote] Agreed that would have been a giggle. I'm not TPC government or anything so I can't say anything for sure but I suspect we were going to hit you or them or both of you before you guys started hitting them. We were ready to go a number of times in the past couple of weeks and it got called off because of one thing and another in what sometimes looked to me like alliances ducking and diving trying to get off our radar. It's been a difficult round that's presented problems in finding suitable targets that will humour these whiners because after just one round with TPC I have quickly discovered that no matter what we do these whiners will find fault with it. I expect If you totalled the NS we have been hitting in the last war and this one you would quickly find it's no down declare. What in the world is there to hit when our guys build so well and they really do. And yes I find it comical that the latest whine sounds like toddlers encouraging each other to "you go first" then sulking when the other wont do their bidding.

[quote name='Forward' timestamp='1354944066' post='3061642'] Maybe not splitting targets and attacking one single alliance your own size would help [/quote] Give us an example of a single alliance the same size as TPC. You see the last time I looked the next strongest alliance had a total nation strength that barely matched only the military strength of TPC.

[quote name='wasso' timestamp='1354864079' post='3061381'] Yes staying in Peace for more than 20 days is excused by saying that ? You had no real war all round TPC . You were following the Flag runners thats it . You had the first War vs Us at the very beginning . What else ? [/quote] So tell us all exactly what is disturbing you here. Is it that we didn't attack you? I very much doubt you would have enjoyed that considering we have almost as much military strength alone as your entire alliances total strength and you appear to have chickened out of attacking us yourself even with the help of warriors. Second possibility. You couldn't con warriors into attacking us alone so are now frustrated that instead of suiciding alone against us they are whipping you. Oh the irony.

[quote name='Thomasj_tx' timestamp='1354258347' post='3058471'] Looks like you may get some if RE can't even honor something as simple as a Peace Agreement that they asked for. So sad. [/quote] Looks to me like one of yours nuked one of theirs after the update. So sad.

[quote name='Clash' timestamp='1353396146' post='3054919'] I'm pretty sure everyone warring right now is doing so to dodge TPC and leave us to fight them.[/quote] You know that thought crossed my mind too and for that very reason I think you guys should be spared the weight of the TPC arsenal when it inevitably falls.

I don't often post on this forum but I want to show an exchange I have just had with one who hjas been doing an extraordinary amount of whining here. [quote] To: OK GuyFrom: Scrappy DooDate: 11/3/2012 12:16:22 AM Subject: I am Defenseless Message: I am not able to defend against your attacks. My Infra only goes to Zero. [/quote] [quote]To: Scrappy Doo From: OK Guy Date: 11/3/2012 12:18:29 AM Subject: RE: I am Defenseless Message: Not a lot I can do about it. They tell me what to do I do it. It's just your turn, the same thing happens to us all at sometime or other. [/quote] [quote]To: OK Guy From: Scrappy Doo Date: 11/3/2012 12:26:09 AM Subject: RE: I am Defenseless Message: Then you are a tool. [/quote] [quote]To: Scrappy Doo From: OK Guy Date: 11/3/2012 12:27:45 AM Subject: RE: I am Defenseless Message: And you're a whining prick crying over temporary pixels. I joined an alliance to do what they choose to do. What did you do?[/quote] [quote]To: OK Guy From: Scrappy Doo Date: 11/3/2012 12:51:40 AM Subject: RE: I am Defenseless Message: That must be the weakest reason I've ever seen to join an alliance. Hence- You are a tool. [/quote] So there you have it, anyone who joins an alliance and follows orders is a tool. Although that may only apply when the orders involve doing what we are all in this game to do against people not suited for the game. Perhaps some of you have better reasons for being in alliance than mine. That obviously has to be true or, hence, you are all tools apparently.

I can add a craft hider to this discussion. Was in an early round war with me and after declaring on me did absolutely nothing the entire war. Not even as much as a single cruise as he sat there and turtled despite having almost 30 million in the early stages of the round and despite actually being there which was evident from the fact he was opening my attack messages. http://tournament.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=1000491

[quote name='wasso' timestamp='1345437958' post='3023642'] Most of the Alliances in TE have been involved in alot of wars , only 1 .... Death Before Dishonor Alliance who knew how to stay hidden [/quote] You think only 1 alliance is hiding? How about this? An alliance with a nation of 31,000 NS with 0 attacking casualties and 3,586 defending. Now THAT'S what you call hiding.