Matthew Conrad

[quote name='HeroofTime55' timestamp='1340214303' post='2990251'] Lets tackle a few topics: 1) I was quite active during and after the war, but only on IRC, on account of my being removed from this realm by the gods themselves (ooc: I was banned) 2) We had a -real- CB, just not the political capital to back it up. Yes, we were looking for war. Yes, we got ahead of ourselves, Moo sat too long on his throne and became disjoint from reality, much as I respect the man, that is the truth. 3) I know more about the Karma CB than a lot of people, I was heavily involved in information brokering at that time, and extensively infiltrated that Blackstone group (don't need a nation in an all-anon vapor alliance). I accessed the highest levels of Blackstone, and saw that OV directly aligned themselves with Blackstone. They even had a secret treaty. Perhaps it was real, perhaps it was an elaborate ruse that we failed to identify. But unlike MK, our coalition worked hard and dug deep. MK openly acknowledges that their "CB" is a joke. 4) Also, calling Dave a victim, lol. The difference is that CSN was giving the boot and executing punishment upon one of their own. No external involvement existed until you dirt bags decided to grant him protection mid-sentence, specifically to gain a "CB." Which, in any interpretation, was a violation of CSN's rights. As much as you want to twist your aggression around and make some thin argument to consider your war "defensive" in any form. [/quote] 1. Wow you really can't read between the lines well can you? I know exactly where you were and saw your incessant whining on public channels. 2. No you never had a real CB, as evidenced by the outcome and general consensus. 3. I never realized we had a super spy in our midst, FYI backstone was irrelevant and always was. If you think your downfall was due to some elaborate ruse of shadowy powers setting up blackstone to bait you rather than you making fundamental mistakes then you're more out of touch than I previously thought. 4. Dave was never in CSN, if you're going try to make a sensible argument try to actually get the facts straight.

[quote name='HeroofTime55' timestamp='1340173830' post='2989848'] Yeah, well, you would say this because you long since spent all the PR capital you had. There is no value in it for you. There is, however, new value in it for me, as it allows me to point out your historical lies and demonstrate that MK is and has always been, objectively, garbage. We can't move past that. We still live in the MK-dominated post-Karma era. And all the !@#$ we always said would happen has, unsurprisingly, come to pass. Over and over and over again. [/quote] Not sure where this "we" came from. You didn't say anything post Karma for quite a while, as I'm sure you are entirely aware of, due to being, for lack of a better word, garbage. Beyond your hilariously bad attempt at making it appear as if you were present at that time, I'm not sure what you were complaining about in regards to this war. We're taking the same actions as the Karma coalition took, the facts surrounding the victim (Dave) are practically identical to what happened with OV. That is unless, of course, you preferred the NPO power structure and sided with their reasons for attacking OV. I would surely welcome a hearty debate on the matter if you do so choose to delve further into these historical lies you speak of.

[quote name='killjoy123' timestamp='1340168948' post='2989789'] Hey all of you...shut the $%&@ up. If you think im a hero then you've been mistaken. And you better believe nuking me would only benefit me. Im hungry for nukes. Dropping NS would be cool too cuz then ill rip apart the 4k, 3k, and the 2k NS nations making them rage quit. Also what you doing at my range $%^&@#? Got the !@#$ beat out of you last war? [/quote] Don't sell yourself short, you're a hero in my book. Also, no one here is in your range.

[quote name='killjoy123' timestamp='1340167881' post='2989760'] I got half a mind to join CSN and kick the !@#$ out of MK's !@#$% lower tier. [/quote] Why don't you just make it a full mind and go ahead. Always good for a chuckle when a hero starts making threats to our 6k range nations.

[quote name='D34th' timestamp='1340149925' post='2989396'] For an alliance who constantly brags about how they love to fight, you are very disappointing in your actions TLR. [/quote] Maybe you can make a sig about your disappointment. It might help. As for the rest of this announcement, I do love the delicate sensibilities expressed within.

[quote name='James Dahl' timestamp='1340085911' post='2988632'] Ah yes the famous Joe72, I heard he was a spy or something [/quote] Oh a bit tiffed I see. I'm sorry you feel that way.

[quote name='James Dahl' timestamp='1340084691' post='2988617'] Maybe you guys forgot you attacked us for no reason, it has been a while, and there are shiny things all over the place! [/quote] You know, with the flurry of posting you do these days I can't be too harsh on you missing our CB. It's okay, give it a gander, you may even manage to read a few things. I'm sure Dave would certainly appreciate it.

[quote name='D34th' timestamp='1340084336' post='2988613'] You almost sounds like if MK was the victims in this situation. [/quote] Our delicate sensibilities were certainly assaulted. Oh and don't forget about Dave! Why, that's two victims.

[quote name='ShouAS' timestamp='1340075699' post='2988306'] So are you going to attack Invicta as well? [/quote] Who would want to face such an alliance, I mean for goodness sake they've never lost a war before.

Hal next time you try to goad someone try to not be so obvious in your agenda otherwise you might fall on your face again.

[quote name='Schattenmann' timestamp='1339993194' post='2987172'] Are you really going to make me do this? <sabcat[LSF]> What rogue? <sabcat[LSF]> What rogue? <sabcat[LSF]> What rogue? <sabcat[LSF]> What rogue? <l337[MK]> What spy? <l337[MK]> What spy? <l337[MK]> What spy? <l337[MK]> What spy? So we agree! The International are survivalist cowards who sign treaties they have no intention of honoring if the weather isn't right. [/quote] I never thought I would see the day where Schatt of all people forgot the definition of a spy, especially given your curious defense of certain actions that began Karma. But hell, it's been a long time, who keeps track of such things!

I'm not entirely sure any announcement could make me happier than this one.

[quote name='Zombie Glaucon' timestamp='1339987850' post='2987068'] It's not a "no u" post when it's highly accurate. [/quote] Well good thing it's not accurate in any sense of the word then!

[quote name='supercoolyellow' timestamp='1339976870' post='2986733'] You realize you're in MK right. Your alliance churns out thousands of posts of that type a year. Not that I would expect you to understand that. [/quote] Oh darn, went straight to my heart. At the rate your responses to me are degrading I fully expect some harsh comebacks consisting of "nuh uh" or other riveting arguments gleaned from a third grader's notebook. Anyways, I still wait for you to address your previous statements and how utter nonsense they were. Of course you can always keep that shovel going, I'm sure you'll reach the other side eventually.

What fine alliance members you have there.

[quote name='supercoolyellow' timestamp='1339961078' post='2986570'] I'm giving it 5:1 odds you haven't read this entire thread either. Also, it amazes me how if an MK poster says something stupid, and some one points our how stupid is, the response is just repeat the same stupid line more emphatically with more volume. [/quote] "Well looks like you got me but this hole doesn't look quite deep enough!" The fact you're trying to defend your entirely incorrect perspective by jumping into an entirely unrelated and irrelevant diatribe is pretty amusing. I mean why would you actually address the topic? You've already been proven wrong on several occasions and your only "defense" is to call it stupid. Oh my, you wound me.

[quote name='supercoolyellow' timestamp='1339922014' post='2986372'] Actually, I will when it suits me, regardless of when it suits you. Asside from that, my point, that we shouldn't be expected to check MK's forums even though Archon claimed people were dumb for not checking them, still stands regardless of whether or not MK posters have said earlier in the thread about Dave being only an applicant and not a member. [/quote] Actually if someone is making statements regarding the nature of Dave93's application in an attempt to fit their argument it's entirely expected they fact check themselves. This is also true for anyone who wondered about Dave's status when he was being attacked by CSN. We at MK were just kind enough to inform others numerous times throughout this thread of the basic status of his application. If someone is too lazy to check a public section of our forums or even read through some of the backpages of this announcement that's entirely their fault. We're not responsible for hand holding people trying to make half assed arguments.

[quote name='supercoolyellow' timestamp='1339902249' post='2986195'] I didn't read all 47 pages of arguing, but what you wrote there was pretty clever. [/quote] Don't try to insert yourself into the conversation and then when you've missed a fact use self imposed ignorance as an excuse.

I'll nuke my own nation before I allow the common law practice of zeal to take place in my own backyard.

[quote name='RedPhx' timestamp='1339815515' post='2985496'] The top 3 reasons for why the CB is legit is.... #1) Dave93 is our buddy (so in that case all hail the mighty Dave93 whose joining an alliance just before he is done with a game led to their starting a world war. No seriously how often does a new member with a history of being involved in the biggest spying scandal since I started playing get that much respect?) #2) The barbaric CSN is persecuting poor innocent Dave93. After all its not his fault that he was caught with spyed information on another alliance and to top it all off the mean old TIO threw him to the wolves when he did nothing at all. Oh boo hoo hoo just grow a pair already. #3) Poor Dave93 is being chased away from a game that he is already leaving for something that we won't deny that he did. Now MKers that is how sarcasm is done so enough with this we are with Dave93 and fess up that this is just an excuse and nothing more. [/quote] Ah I see, still a skeptic. Well these are truly the words of someone who would drive out valuable community members (I suspect this isn't your first attempt at such heinous acts) and who has no valued friends. I assure you our decision to go to war was no simple thing and was made after the most serious of discussions regarding the integrity of our honor, decency, and conscience. In the end we could not let a dear friend be chased out like a leper by those who would deny him his basic rights.

[quote name='RedPhx' timestamp='1339813817' post='2985470'] How am I chasing people away? I have only fought in one war (the VE-NPO war) since during the Doomhouse Invasion of the Chestnut Accords I was having computer problems and only on for about 5 minutes a day so I quickly sent out a note and went into peace mode. I certainly never did anything to start one, and never even conducted a Tech Raid. I also have never trolled around making people feel uncomfortable whether its here or in my alliances forum or IC room. And so I ask that since I never did anything to make it harder for people to play and never made people uncomfortable did you just throw out the first baseless accusation of this little run around? [/quote] You are trying to chase out a great and true friend to the community in Dave93. We simply cannot stand by while such valued persons are driven out by your like.

James Dahl, great Pacifican hero of Karma. Bring us your words of wisdom, for we are unworthy.

[quote name='smurthwaite' timestamp='1339708715' post='2983960'] Your attempt to understand simple English is sad. I never said anything about the irony of Sardonic's comment. I said it was ironic that he was talking about trolls. :sigh: I feel sad for your English teacher. They must feel like a complete failure when they think about you. [/quote] Oh damn cook, your [i][b]English[/b][/i] teacher! FYI if his comment was about trolls and you called him talking about trolls ironic, by the basic transitive property you're talking about the irony of his post. Think of your Math teacher for goodness sake.

Dave93 in all our hearts.

[quote name='Incitatus' timestamp='1335393454' post='2959249'] Which is pretty typical in alliances throughout Bob's history. Those alliances had a big part. [/quote] Your standards for "big" must not be very high.