Captain Flinders

[quote name='Roquentin' timestamp='1329411660' post='2921816'] Dude uses lifted info from RoK's forums, dicks them over later on, and still has a NoR treaty? I guess there's something there. [/quote] I haven't seen anything to suggest, with any confidence, that MK spied on RoK. And if all we have is conjecture and personal claims, I'm going to side with my ally over your ranting every time.

Can we get a lock based on this being a joke thread? Because seriously...

[quote name='EdwardNorton' timestamp='1329389899' post='2921681'] About a fifth of Nordreich is in FIGHT CLUB. [/quote] Somehow I doubt it.

[quote name='Roquentin' timestamp='1329303036' post='2920999'] I'm curious about NoR though. [/quote] Don't be. I made my personal statement on this a few pages back but it got lost in the shuffle. As for Nordreich's official stance, it has been relayed to MK in private. While it may entertain you or serve your purposes to have all discourse out here in the open, it means nothing to me.

I stopped reading on page 15. Someone please tell me if there's anything worth seeing after that because I just can't do anymore. A quick thing that pops out at me though. If the ultimate goal here is taking down MK (which you've said explicitly a few times), you're doing it all wrong. You don't just get up on a soapbox and throw information around like this. That leaves too much to chance and the fickle nature of the OWF. You gotta dig in the dirt behind the scenes. You're looking and sounding like some noob who wants to take over the black team just screaming and hollering all over the place. The problem is, you've been here way too long and you've seen multiple alliances get taken down for different reasons. So there's no excuse other than incompetence for you to be acting like this. Basically, I'm not upset with you taking shots at MK. MK will be alright, though their souls may be shaken to the core. I'm upset because your execution is piss poor. If you're going to do something, do it right. This is just sad.

[quote name='Stewie' timestamp='1328967098' post='2918299'] Our raid policy states that larger alliances can be raided with the permission of the Tri. [/quote] I wasn't aware of that. That works for me.

[quote name='LOLman789789' timestamp='1328966694' post='2918294'] How about we call it World War 1? There iss bound to be another later on. [/quote] Someone give this guy a medal. He's got it all figured out.

It can't be a raid because it's not within NG's raid policy (alliance of 15 or less members and 200,000 or less NS). Having said that, they're clearly inactive and pathetic enough to warrant an attack so I don't really care.

It is nice to see this put to bed amicably. NOIR served multiple purposes through its life and it was a pleasure working with all of you.

Does no one else see that Myth is attempting to subtly campaign in this thread. For shame.

[quote name='Krack' timestamp='1328569992' post='2915633'] ... aside from it being what the general membership of RoK wants. [/quote] Minus the 500k NS that left, and minus those who are apathetic and don't care either way. Most alliances have a handful of those. So ya, after all those people, the government that forcibly installed itself is quite pleased with itself. Go figure.

[quote name='ChairmanHal' timestamp='1328568457' post='2915618'] That would be the "legal" argument, and while it's a solid one to make, if taken to its logical conclusion it would mean that Ragnarok would have ended up a two person AA, with the vast majority leaving for a "new Ragnarok". Rather than a lot of deck chair shuffling to make it "legal", common sense perhaps can be said to have prevailed. [/quote] Nothing makes sense about Adel being the head of RoK. She can't even make sense of it.

[quote name='Ayatollah Bromeini' timestamp='1328469694' post='2915052'] It all worked out for the best, at any rate. This version of TGE is far more competent than its former incarnation. [/quote] Strange how we're supporting this one and you supported the former. I'm sure it's just a coincidence.

[quote name='HeroofTime55' timestamp='1328304134' post='2913972'] They said we were a joke. They were wrong. [/quote] Nope, still a joke. There are much larger alliances than you who are jokes as well. Don't feel too bad.

[quote name='Great Lord Moth' timestamp='1328239222' post='2913551'] I didn't make any claims of causation. >_> Only correlation. It's still more smugworthy than your enemies only having one or two allies at the end of war that lasted months and involved nearly every major alliance on Bob. [/quote] I was waiting for someone to make this point. You'd be a fool not to. All I can say is that correlation does not imply causation. Something to keep in mind. As for thread related smack talk, we're still well above the Drop Line. How's the weather all the way down there RIA?

I would read such a thing as long as my coup attempt is documented as a revolutionary fight for freedom against an oppressive government regime. If it is not told in that light, I may be forced to attack you.

[quote name='Mogar' timestamp='1328129524' post='2912715'] so, same thing that RoK had, just your ex gov was smart enough to keep their mouths shut when they lost? [/quote] There was no coup and no one was removed from the alliance, so no, nothing like RoK. I was quite sad to see some of our members leave but if they thought it best I respect their decision. We carry on. We've been through far worse, but you're well acquainted with that. Let's try keep the thread on topic if we can.

[quote name='Schattenmann' timestamp='1328106917' post='2912536'] Let Rok's former fairweather allies take note. [/quote] Note taken. I'm a bad man, I know.

[quote name='Rogal Dorn' timestamp='1328086068' post='2912449'] are you couping someone? [/quote] Yes. Everyone.

[center][img]http://culture.nordreich.eu/var/resizes/Other-Pictures/Official%20Announcement.png?m=1295556760[/img][/center] In accordance with the NoR-RoK MDoAP (The RagNoRoK accords) Nordreich informed Ragnarok of our intention to cancel said treaty roughly 72 hours ago. The cancellation period has therefore elapsed and the treaty is now null and void. Without feeding the drama too much, Nordreich simply cannot be an accomplice to the insanity and ineptitude on display in Ragnarok today. Take that as you will. Additionally, and more importantly, I'd like to announce that I have been appointed Nordreich's Minister of Foreign Affairs. Go me.

[quote name='Omniscient1' timestamp='1328051648' post='2911876'] If your arguing for Joe Stupid's emperorship then just stop. Joe Stupid made me emperor and I kicked him out of the alliance, sentenced him to ZI, and declared Adel in charge. [/quote] Don't talk to me. You can't possibly have anything to say that would be worth hearing.

[quote name='King Wally' timestamp='1328050778' post='2911856'] Personally I would prefer to see them hold a democratic referendum to silence the issue. RoK has never been a democracy but given the circumstances I think today is the time to introduce a one off poll to put this issue to bed in the public light if for nothing else. Hell throw Omni in as a candidate too, he may give Bobby-Joe and Adel a run for their money! Moving forward the party that wins the poll should introduce a clause to the Charter that clears up a path for removing a leader thats vastly unpopular among the people. [/quote] I really don't care what you would like to see. I'm talking about what happened. So you can live in fantasy land if you'd like. We''ll all chill here in the real world.

[quote name='King Wally' timestamp='1328049881' post='2911837'] I do. [/quote] Then I don't think much of you. [quote]The people spoke [/quote] Did they? Because it looked like a former member abused their forum powers and forcefully removed the standing government. Doesn't sound very democratic to me.

[quote name='Bob Janova' timestamp='1328047850' post='2911808'] particularly as this mess is RoK's fault, not really Kait's. [/quote] You're right. Kait has been an innocent bystander in all of this. The true victim.

[quote name='Bob Janova' timestamp='1328041891' post='2911705'] Well, I guess MK have declared their hand – they don't want to be reasonable, they want to bait Adel-RoK into a war. [/quote] Hang on a sec. I haven't really been keeping up with these threads, but are there actually people who think the Kait coup was legitimate and Adel installation is the rightful government and treat it as such?