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"I doubt God even gives a damn." -Chairman Drake

[quote name='Yawoo' timestamp='1282496726' post='2426690'] From the map thread. Nor should it be. Haven't posted in 25 days, you're wiped. Everyone knows this rule - you should not need reminded of it by other players who also follow the rule. [/quote] It hasn't been 25 days for the player in question. It was about 13 days, and he posted today, thus making any argument over the situation stupid.

[quote name='king of cochin' timestamp='1282412502' post='2425795'] ^This would be a bad roll to permit. Air force operations conducted through spy rolls could easily lead the way for stealth operations depending on GM rolls for success. Spy rolls should be for spy ops only, not for air force operations. Depending on the stealth capabilities of vince's planes and bio's stealth detection capabilities, let RP decide the detectability of the planes, not spy rolls. [/quote] If he's using them for a covert operation, it falls under 'spy' operations, not air force ops.

[quote name='The Flying Scotsman' timestamp='1282170729' post='2422086'] Vince, the RL Swiss do in fact shoot their aircraft out of mountains. [/quote] Yes, but Bio didn't RP mountainaircraftlauncherdevice things.

[quote name='Subtleknifewielder' timestamp='1282094756' post='2420806'] "You are not at war...what's your excuse? You support ethnic superiority as a legal justification for war?" [/quote] "We will not fund a war against our allies. Doing so would make our word worthless. Are you saying you would supply the enemies of your friends? Furthermore, I fail to see how the Goths view themselves as ethnically superior, and I can't take those accusations seriously." -Chairman James Drake

[quote name='KaiserMelech Mikhail' timestamp='1282093663' post='2420762'] We lack all logistics to perform that duty. We are landlocked, and our planes cannot fly far enough to deliver men and material. The nations between us and Switzerland have also all declared their neutrality in this conflict, blocking transit by ground. Europe is indeed at war, but the one that needs to be fought is instead being ignored. [/quote] "Then you know exactly how Europe is right now. The great nations' navies are now off fighting bloody battles at sea, and no ships can go out for fear of enemy attack. Their military and government planes are all at the front or running logistical support for the infantry. There's no way for them to send Switzerland aid without crippling themselves. Any leader who chooses the lives of an unaligned nation over the lives of his people is a bad leader, and that is what is at stake in the Franco-German leader. You seek to help the Swiss. Where there's a will, there's a way. Find a way or shut up." -Chairman James Drake

[quote name='KaiserMelech Mikhail' timestamp='1282086588' post='2420529'] The world needs to know that the condemnations do nothing. The Swiss don't need your moral support! They need guns, tanks, planes, and men to fight. If we were capable of it, we would have offered our own men to their cause, but sadly we are not. We pray that Europe, and the world at large wipes out the cancer that is the Goths before they have time to root themselves in the region. [/quote] "I fail to see you sending them guns, tanks, planes, and men. Europe is at war; what's your excuse?" -Chairman James Drake

[quote name='Subtleknifewielder' timestamp='1281984223' post='2418099'] You'll forgive me if I don't take Urban Dictionary seriously... [/quote] That's the definition, unless EM actually put a lighter on Triyun's arm.

[quote name='Subtleknifewielder' timestamp='1281909616' post='2417025'] Oh, I do. he's Calling Triyun, in essence, egotistical, but that's oversimplified. [/quote] That's still not a burn. The definition of burn is: To be thoroughly humiliated or insulted to the point where you cannot return with a comeback. courtesy of urban dictionary. In response to EM's carrier...that thing looks like a toy.

SIC: Shipments of arms and equipment beginning from Arkhangelsk to West Siberia. Icebreakers deployed in case they prove necessary. Rifles, LMGs, and anti-armor weapons shipped in secured crates. Two companies of Slavic Marines deployed along with the weapons to ensure security. Upon arrival, the Marines will form a de facto headquarters at the West Siberian port until all equipment arrives. When the shipments are done, the equipment and licenses would formally be handed over by the CO of the operation to the designated Siberian official.

[quote name='Kaiser Gundislav' timestamp='1281910348' post='2417036'] To: The Slavic Federation From: Major Björn Eiríksson Royal Armory and Ordinance Subject: Arms Deal We'll take all the Ryan Navions and all the M1008s. [/quote] SIC: "Before shipments begin, the USR needs to ensure that this equipment will not be used against us in the future. We'd need to sign a non-aggression pact before shipments of any arms begin to your military." -Chairman Drake [quote]Preamble The Kingdom of West Siberia and the Union of Slavic Republics, hereon out referred to as West Siberia and the USR, respectively, hereby enter into an agreement of peace and mutual respect. Article I. Non-Aggression The USR and West Siberia hereby agree to have peaceful relations. Neither nation shall engage in any act that is detrimental to the other, whether that action be military, covert, or support for a foe. Article II. Cancellation In the event that either nation sees fit to cancel this agreement, they must give the other 24 hours advance notice, during which time the treaty is still in effect. Signed for the Union of Slavic Republics, Michael Visari, General Secretary of the Central Committee of the Slavic Unity Party, Chairman of the Presidium of the Supreme Congress of Slavic People's Deputies James Drake II, Chairman of the USR Council of Ministers Signed for the Kingdom of West Siberia, [/quote]

[quote name='Kaiser Gundislav' timestamp='1281887308' post='2416695'] To: The Slavic Federation From: Major Björn Eiríksson Royal Armory and Ordinance Subject: Arms Deal 100 U-2 aircraft - We are in no need of 100 U-2's but are looking for more of something like the L-5 Sentinel for low aerial observation. We will however take take 20 U-2's. Also We are in need of a utility vehicle so if there is one model available please ship us at least 1,000. [/quote] SIC: "Aircraft like the L-5 Sentinel went out of mass-production anywhere a long time ago. However, I believe we do have something similar to the Sentinel." -Chairman Drake "Currently have 105 Navion single engine, four-seat aircraft for liaison and low-altitude aerial observation. Navions are currently taking up a large amount of space in storage and are able to give the extras for free. As for utility vehicles, we have a few units of old M1008s, but that's all." -Colonel Havhannes

Voted 3. Also, I think polls should only be used if a suggestion has strong support and a GM creates the poll, so we don't have these stupid things that really won't wind up doing anything to change crap.

I voted 2, but they should be able to lock if they inform the other side first.

[quote name='Kaiser Gundislav' timestamp='1281833910' post='2416198'] To: The Slavic Federation From: Keisari Veturliðason I Subject: Arms Deal Body: My Kingdoms military is in need of military supplies. Home Guard 50,000 - Surplus Assault Rifles 1,000 - 1.5 Ton Trucks 100 - Observation Aircraft 50 - Transport Helicopters 100 - Light Artillery 2,000 - Light Machine Guns 500 - Surplus Personal Anti Armor Weapons Keisari's Royal Guard 5,000 - Modern Assault Rifles 500 - Light Machine Guns 400 - Infantry Fighting Vehicles/Armored Personnel Carriers 100 - Observation Aircraft 100 - Assault Helicopters 200 - Multi-Purpose Helicopters With each weapon ordered I would like to buy the licence to produce the ammunition needed for it. [/quote] SIC: "We've got spare weapons in storage. We have no need of them, with our current equipment. I'll have our ordnance corps look into it and send you a list." -Chairman James Drake II 50,000 G36 Assault Rifles 1 1/2 Ton Trucks: N/A 100 U-2 aircraft 50 S-70 helicopters 100 L118 Light Guns 2,000 FN Minimi LMGs 500 RPG-7s 5,000 M16A3s 500 MG4s 400 IDF Achzarit Mk I 100 Mirage III aircraft 100 AH-64 Apaches 200 Mil Mi-8s "Regret to inform you that our 1 1/2 ton trucks were broken down for various reasons and we will be unable to ship any to you." -Colonel Kevork A. Havhannes, SGF Ordnance Corps "Please review the provided list and let us know if something will not work for you." -Chairman Drake

[quote name='Generalissimo' timestamp='1281813293' post='2415908'] If Kaiser Martens, a well-known character, can publicly came back to life with a vague retcon - anyone can. The problem is more of how Maelstrom Vortex came back to life, than the possibility Maelstrom Vortex isn't dead. [/quote] Where exactly would you get a double for someone who looks like a lizard? I'm not particularly a fan of previously unmentioned body doubles, anyways. I always remember the time with Mael's head of government and Kevz's queen/president person. Even though Kevz claimed double, Mael didn't, and didn't even complain about the situation, and for that I respected Mael. In my opinion, Mael did it right back then. If you didn't state you were sending a double to a meeting, and that person gets shot in the head, he should be dead.

Just a reminder that the Slavic Federation is now the Union of Slavic Republics.

Any luck?

*Private* "Wanna go?" Donegan asked Chairman Drake. "Naaaah, dude," Drake said, breathing some smoke out. *Public* "The USR will not be attending."

[quote name='Maelstrom Vortex' timestamp='1281733509' post='2414794'] Again, that is your opinion Drake. In my opinion it has every place in CNRP and I'm not going to just let you shove me aside because you think you are right. [/quote] It's not an opinion. It's a fact that we haven't yet resurrected someone in RL. The way the rules are, that makes it impossible in RP.

[quote name='Maelstrom Vortex' timestamp='1281732989' post='2414776'] As an author it is my right to direct the reality of my RP's as I wish to so long as it harms no other person's interactions and breaches no rules. That is what I am doing based on my interpretation of how a shared reality such as Bob functions. In fact, my religion and my actions are more true to how Bob exists and function than any other writing here which tries and fails miserably to simulate earth. You want real earth? Go outside. This is CNRP, not Earth. We have strange progressions of time, the occasional zombie, and many other slight variations that provide for the entertainment and amusement of the community. The targeting of my particular rp is both hypocritical, judgmental, and outright wrong. None of you govern this reality, we all do. Just because you write something does not make it better than what I'm doing. I am enjoying myself. Sal: It's not even supernatural to me. It's just how Bob works. [/quote] That's nice and all, but it still comes down to realism. Bob copies damn near everything from the rules of Earth. That's why we have gravity on Bob and we don't have M-1 Abrams floating around the sky. We haven't figured out how to resurrect people in RL, we can't resurrect them in RP. That's how CNRP works. [quote name='Sal Paradise' timestamp='1281733022' post='2414777'] This would be a ridiculous criteria to use. The veracity of the resurrection has been disputed for two millennia. We aren't going to settle it in CNRP. [/quote] Then they can continue to believe that it can happen. However, until substantial proof is brought forward that can counter, neigh, defeat, the evidence against resurrection, it has no place in CNRP.

[quote name='Sal Paradise' timestamp='1281732681' post='2414766'] Some religions believe that it is possible to [i]actually revive someone[/i]. Is it the policy of this forum to pass judgment on the truth of religion? If you're talking about realism, to Christians the resurrection is very real. [/quote] Let them prove that it's possible to revive them. They can believe all they want, but until it's proved, it needs to stay OUT of CNRP.

[quote name='Sal Paradise' timestamp='1281732253' post='2414755'] We can't RP resurrection? Does that mean that Christianity is wiped? [/quote] There's a difference between religion and actually reviving someone.

[quote name='Maelstrom Vortex' timestamp='1281732001' post='2414746'] Says you. Everyone has an opinion. Most of the world disagrees on you about life after death. [/quote] Right. Whatever. This is unrealistic, and would therefore fall under the Total Impossibility clause of the GM abilities. [quote]*Type one, total impossibility. IE Death star. Total RP wiped. These kind of god mods are easy to spot, and will be called quickly, so little RP to go back and redo.[/quote]

[quote name='Maelstrom Vortex' timestamp='1281731482' post='2414741'] That's your choice. Not everyone has to abide by it. Thus the way the post was written. It is fully within current CNRP rules. You'll have to have a mod completely debunk all religion to say it isn't possible at all. I observe that the thread has in no way harmed anyone elses rps or characters or caused disruption to anyone elses entertainment. I disagree with your interpretation of how reality on Bob should operate. That does not make me wrong by necessity. That said, I'll discontinue when instructed to do otherwise by those with oversight of the RPing Rules. (GMs do not, they can only interpret existing rules.) If you can point out any existing rule that this RP violates, I will have a rogue wave overturn the boat. [/quote] It's not about religion or harming anyone else. It's about common sense and realism. This is just stupid and it's unrealistic. You can argue all you want, but this isn't possible on Earth or Bob.