ImperialCubanacan

All this is doing is egging on a situation; really, are people so mean spirited and obsessed that you have to try and push two alliances into a war -- or make it to where it seems war is inevitable by repeatedly discussing it? Either way, it is interesting none the less.

Never heard of Symphony? They're these green tyrants who club people with trumpets and cello's during warfare. [quote][04:44] <%Sil[Sym]> cello has two l's [04:44] <%Sil[Sym]> [04:44] <%Cuba[NoR]> yes yes [04:44] <%Cuba[NoR]> I guess I should edit.[/quote] Done. Berated by those tyrants.

[quote name='Jrenster' timestamp='1309591216' post='2746709'] I don't think mental stimulation was RV's agenda here. [/quote] I do agree.

Not a very mentally engaging topic; but, I will play. Voted.

I like this -- drama in TE <3 Finally feels real here. :v

Positive news. Great to see. UINE are good people.

This is a purely SF/MJ poll, not their allies on either side.

Very interesting poll. I would say that it would end evenly. Because, well... it just would.

[quote name='Il Impero Romano' timestamp='1309314516' post='2743856'] Tell us how you really feel. Sorry man, I had to :x [/quote] Well, that's just calculating possibilities.

It is interesting how RoK got "deleted" somehow. But, I am not here to speculate on your organizational skills. Duckroll can basically be added into MJ with AZTEC; if you really wanted to -- which equates to 51M strength. More than XX. But, you'd have to add SF into XX's numbers (conspiracy says, yes) and the numbers still are less MJ/AZTEC/Duckroll. But, add PB and CnG... basically as it stands, that would be a brutal match up. But the treaty with MK pulls in some of their allies. If it was activated. The treaty web really is a nightmare, so many alliances allied to alliances in other blocs where some alliances have enemies and vice versa. It really messes war time up. EDIT: For clarification.

What is GOONS' opinion of Bassman? Also, Bassman or Cuba?

[quote name='Il Impero Romano' timestamp='1309239805' post='2743256'] Our argument is that the forums themselves constitute a municipality and therefore the actions committed therein would be encompassed within municipal immunity and subject to its exceptions, not sovereign. Sovereign, as you suggest, applies to the greater political entity and actions taken as an alliance. The reason municipal immunity is the proper context is because Mr. Xoindotnler pleads injury in a particular venue, alleging it stems from the regular maintenance and operation of the venue itself. This allegation puts the matter squarely within the bounds of a municipality and its duties, not the overarching sovereign and its much broader concerns. I would then proceed to rain a sumjudge !@#$storm upon your head. Though, I have a feeling we could do this for a while. [/quote] [i]The right honorable magistrate Il Impero Romano presiding[/i] Court is now in session -- dong dong! Seriously though... you gotta admit, the thread is pretty funny.

I like this. Hurray for transparency! (sorry Polaris )

TORN are very nice people; congratulations to our allies.

The charter is adorable. Feel free to visit Nordreich.

[quote name='Penlugue Solaris' timestamp='1309114317' post='2742049'] NoR hovers more around WW1 from what I've seen (I don't really pay attention to people's themes very well) and thus my comments. [/quote] Nordreich is Norse/Germanic themed; not particular to any point of time. However, the government and nobility system is that of Pre-WWI and WWI era. Thus, Kaiser, Kronprinz -- etc. I had an at length discussion regarding the theme, standards, origin, symbology, ideology and structure -- elsewhere, back in January with NAC; their alliance and myself got rather close and we still are. Those sorts of civil discussions are quite intellectually stimulating. And I think Shavar, Vrangor, Hellbilly and Thom for their questions and friendship.

[quote name='Sarmatian Empire' timestamp='1309056311' post='2741543'] I cant believe I'm gonna talk about such a thing...but... Based on the assumption that the next war is SF v Mj, it's pretty certain XX would side with SF(via RnR and other ties with FARK). So now its SF/XX v Mj. If NoR activates this treaty with MK, MK could pull DH. Making it SF/XX v Mj/DH. I'm probably dead wrong as I dont dabble in this kinda stuff often...but I tried [/quote] Very well done my good sir. Very well done.

[quote name='Hyperion321' timestamp='1309056178' post='2741539'] Because the ally of our ally ODP'd someone that our other ally was rumored to go to war with over a CB that didn't exist! [size="7"][b]THIS MEANS WAR.[/b][/size] [/quote] Say that fast and with bumble gum in your mouth.

Please explain how this treaty leads to DH and XX fighting eachother? I am really at a loss here. EDIT: Grammatical error.

[quote name='Archon' timestamp='1308989643' post='2741063'] Overt being the operative word...right? ...right? [/quote] You know it,

I have seen dumb things before -- but nothing like this. You should sell your votes to Shattenmann.

[quote name='The Pansy' timestamp='1308907356' post='2740306'] Nothing has changed for you, you already were tied via ally of an ally. NoR -> Valhalla -> Olympus -> NPO but hey, with a few chains anything is possible in this treaty web. [/quote] This is an additional linkage. So, yes.

[quote name='Hyperion321' timestamp='1308940388' post='2740569'] Does it help if I don't like socialism or communism? Monarchy has way better bonuses. [/quote] Correct. It helps your economy.

[quote name='Gottrich Northeim' timestamp='1308883000' post='2739899'] Congrats to both parties, I look forward to a prosperous and enjoyable future of shooting ghosts with fire balls, and hunting down that pesky princess who almost always seems to be in another castle. [/quote] We have the princess, her name is chels -- we found her in the LoSS castle.

Well, I cannot say I am overly pleased with being distantly tied to New Pacific Order -- but The Imperial Order is an ally of an ally, so I will simply congratulate on the upgrade. Regards, Cuba