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shahenshah

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  1. Your opinion I am sure have been noted and someone who speaks for RIA can discuss it with RnR. I'm personally not privy to the other discussions and I doubt you are either on first hand basis nor I have any reason to take your word for it, as things can be fluid often. I'm sure both sides will sort it out, the front is only a month old(another reason why delayed entry thing was silly, heads need to roll for this), so time isn't really a pressure point I would guess.
  2. You do not speak for RIA, stop framing it as such. RnR and RIA leadership both know who to reach out for official stances, you're not one of them. R&R have been honest and straight forward, your little attempt for discord is cute. Now, disregarding your red herrings, What are your opinions on TOP? From what I recall you wanted to see them rolled, however now that you're in same coalition, is that opinion changed? The rebel, practice what you preach, feel free to share with us your criticisms of your allies in other relevant discussions. No I do not publicly criticize my allies nor I expect others to do, and none of my allies have done it to this scale, so I have no need to criticize them privately. If you want to discuss matters other than the topic at hand, feel free to shoot me a PM.
  3. Not taken as insult, we just don't have a wide mid tier. Our top tiers didn't fall out much because our opponents took their top tiers out in turns rather than together, so they were quickly pushed down to mid tiers in a round or two without much of our top tier falling in mid. Had they all come out together, wed have more of top tier in mid and they'd still have more in mid and grind us there. Tho, it has allowed some of our guys to do massive down declares and send money, tech and troops downwards, so were generating alot of soft ns in mid tier that is being destroyed and slowly pushing the opposing mid tier downwards. So were loosing cheap and soft NS, the advantage we could have built was only with Sparta's initial soft ns, that's exhausted, mi6 didn't have much, TOP didn't expose much so all of this is what it is. Wed off course prefer a better ratio, but if you put it in context of our scenario, its ~~ok.
  4. You made a very vague statement, by your logic everyone on Bob supports terms and reps, I just figured the obvious flaw there does not needs to be spelled out.
  5. Adding on to what Rhiz said, Sparta in particular is pressing their advantage in mid tiers, so we are ATM outnumbered there, so a lot of soft NS is being funded and lost there, by this time your also out of nukes mostly, so can't target everyone you are hitting. Mi6 was already lean and mean due to earlier conflict, so we didn't get as much soft NS as we could have. They of course also fight well. TOP are tenacious and good fighters when and where they are fighting, alot of nuke turreting going on there. These three alliances IMO are also some of of highest quality opposition, outside of Polar and FARK, so we do respect that fact and understand we'll have to fight for each and every pixel and aren't going to get a free pass and have an opportunity to build massive gap in damage taken and inflicted. We have quality opponents, they're fighting back, believe it or not, its bit awkward we can't cover all ranges, first time it has happened. We got a good chunk in top and bottom. Another partial factor is the soft and hard ns subject, a lot of our losses are soft NS, we've lost about 100k tech only so far. The NS losses of our opponents would have higher % of hard ns compared to us. IMO we have the best quality opposition the other side can offer. So no freebie pixel destruction to create a gap in ratio before the delta starts flattening. Would have offcourse preffered it to be better. Reforms and changes already underway to manage tier distributions :-) why wait for the war to end?.
  6. Legion has shown via this conflict that the past lingering criticisn of them is no longer applicable, rather laughable. Well fought and have fun.
  7. I lost you there, my numbers are score at start minus score at end of war, or ns at start.minus ns at end, whatever reference is available. Regarding absolute terms, I meant them within specific timeline of a war, not a summation of all wars...
  8. Most damage ever taken in war, absolute terms: #1: NPO: 14.3m in Karma #2: IRON: 14m in Karma #3: NPO most likely #4: TOP in bipolar, 38 score #5: IRON..36 score bipolar #6: Polar..this war..10.2m, 25-28 score? #7: Polar? #8: Probably Polar :-/ #9: arrow in the dark..FAN? Anyone got ns numbers for bipolar? TOP lost around 38 and us around 36 score so that's probably a big NS number.
  9. What I know of the terms is Polar created them on behalf of the front and Sparta negotiated them for the front. I did not say you two pushed for it, you know that, I have said that multiple times. We also opposed the terms, this I told you personally more than once at the time. As for drivel, no I am not aiming for that, I could easily point your own.. what you're calling "smart move" today is exactly what you called "disgusting" and a lot more around last year. Saying TOP had nothing to do with it would be incorrect. I do not for a second believe Umbrella had the political capital to push the terms if TOP (and by extension, its treatied allies NpO and Sparta) straight up said 'No'. Its easy and convenient now to pin everything on Umbrella after many of you kept mum about it for a very long time publically. It was a circular blame game with no names being said out loud and clear. The theme was NPO asking who wants it, you guys saying not us, but yea, you'll have terms. That led a lot of people to perceive your role was larger than if actually was. I said that wasn't the case, unless you believe its drivel too. Lord Bagel: Yes were thin in middle tier, that is why I have stated wed rather just deal with Sparta top tiers floating in mid tiers at the moment, the later you guys enter, the better it would be for us. 50% is still a bad number to post around, if you take in terms of %ns, it skews up even worse, if you take just top tier, again, not something you'd like to boast about.
  10. To be fair, something of this sort happens every war. In many cases, taking a volunatary step backwards has proven to be very costly as people youre letting go haven't let you off the hook in reciprocation. One can take example of NPO, who have been repeatedly subjected to harsh terms even when they didn't use it even tho they had the chance to do it. The losers of Karma have in general avoided using terms and reps, it is actually the winners of Karma who have continued the practice of punitive and expensive terms interestingly. Tho, opposite is also true, Sparta let go the reps on us in Bipolar and we made it clear we weren't gonna take any in Dave nor support it. I would be utterly shocked and dismayed if something like that happens now. I haven't heard or seen the t or r word internally yet so, all is good. I doubt there would be any support either. I suppose it varies between alliances to alliances and there various experiences. I still like the old ways of doing things but do recognize this stuff has always occurred, while we've been on winning or loosing side.
  11. but Lord Bagel is on your side, opposite of FTW and DS. I blame Lord Bagel for this confusion. Congrats on the peace!
  12. But they don't impose terms for doing it. Also that statement would be true only in its most vaguest form. - No one has ever hidden ~70% for the duration of the war or hide approximately 50% of their alliance in several wars, name one alliance other than TOP that does it to the scale they do it, every time. - TOP is one of the very few alliances that has imposed terms on its front in every major conflict it has won. Terms in last war were no coincidence. Everyone uses peace mod to some extent, but very few impose terms for it or use it to the extent TOP does.
  13. TOP's lack of fighting at the moment is helpful for us. I'd prefer it that way for the time being. If you haven't figured out why, all I can say is best of luck. TOP's allies have no issues with their lack of fighting as much as it was Polar that convinced SNX to invite Polar and SNX not buckling under pressure. :-)
  14. Do note unlike Sparta and Mi6, they don't have to face Umbrella, furthermore, TOP has had a lot more tech and also the most damage potential due to high tech. This delayed entry strategy is only going to be an increasing liability, allows us to manage the tiers better, do massive down declares etc, so the pressure isn't really on us. They've seen top tiers of thier friends destroyed and did nothing, its absolutely fine with our side if they also see the middle tiers grinded down. Piece meal is good for us, bad for them, if you think there is any pressure, its not on us. Frankly its ok if they come in later, its makes things simpler for us and builds more pressure on their friends. I'd rather just deal with Sparta's top tier nations floating around in mid tiers ATM, rather than also having TOP wonder heavy nations floating in mid tiers right now. We can do that later, its really just a matter of 'when'. I encourage TOP to stick to peace mode at least for another month. This front is just month old, no one is in hurry or holds any such expectations on any side.
  15. Comparison of NATO and TOP between different wars and different fronts is like comparing apples and oranges and a red herring IMO. A more appropriate comparison would be comparing Mi6 and Sparta's contribution in this war to TOP.
  16. . Oh Dajobo, what you must say in public for actions of your ally, this part I get. Rest is just empty talk. You absolutely detest what TOP is doing, there are countless posts of yours in public that can be quoted on this topic. Secondly, suggesting what TOP is doing is smart and implying burning in blaze of glory is not implies that Sparta, Mi6, FARK etc are stupid. Thirdly, it suggests there is no central strategy in your coalition. Getting tiers wiped out piece meal is a very stupid strategy. If you were tywin and friends etc, I'd have believed it was by design, but you're not tywin, its not by design. It is because some people have higher propensity to preserve pixels than others and weak central coalition command to over ride that propensity and direct a coherent strategy. Some are here to do actual defending, others are here to tick off a clause on a paper and put some guys out there for token defense. All in all, you're putting up a show of public support and unity, however it does not stands up to your own views in recent history nor does it makes any logical sense in terms of overall coalition strategy. This united show of support is as honest as the statement of Polaris convincing SNX to invite them in.
  17. We all here appreciate the masterful strategy of delayed entries, now it seems to be happening at tier level. Anyone keeping an eye on the tier numbers will realize we should all be praising our friends on the other side for their continuous support. This public show of unity and support on the face of criticism is most welcome, similar to the show of how "Polar convinced SNX to let them fight and not let SNX take all the damage all alone" by the sheer force of their moralism. SNX totally did not ask for help guys.
  18. Here I thought they weren't coming out because as per them, there weren't enough targets in top tier for them.
  19. Then the same can be said about TOP-NpO treaty, had they not signed, one or the other might have been rolled, and TOP was very willing to jump on the roll NpO bandwagon at the time, which didn't pan out so TOP went to Polar. They both needed the treaty to avoid beat down, hence preserve pixels. Thus, it can be argued that preserving pixels is still the main reason the treaty was signed. Without pixels, the political goals would have been harder to attain. This is further proven when you see TOP ATM is busy preserving pixels only. The treaty had been utilized fully only when pixels were not at risk. Hence, given the ongoing actions, TOP had signed treaty only for pixel preservation. --- See why your logic is perfectly applicable to actions of your allies and coalition partners. Your and some other peoples argument basically is if everyone else does it, its to preserve pixels first and then go for political goals, but if you do it, its primarily for political goals, while pixel preservation is just a coincidental outcome, its hillarious. So you basically have two sets of standards for yourself/allies and the rest of the world. What everyone is trying to tell is multiple objectives overlap and go hand in hand, while you're trying to paint a black and white picture on everyone else, but at the same time, reject your own assertations if your own logic is applied to your AA.
  20. TOPs allies and opposition still await their meaningful entry in this war.
  21. Invicta and Legion, doing it better than TOP, lol. Before someone points out timelines of entry, I'd point out FARK racing towards top in their coalition.
  22. LOL, TOP is doing exactly that, preserving their pixels and doing a token defense and they have a consistent habit of doing this in every war but one. They'll peace out one or the other half of the alliance for entire war duration, youd pick on Berber for stating facts, but his statements stand proven right in front you. TOP has been nothing but a political liability to you past few months and now, they've shown how useless they are to you even in war. TOP signed that treaty a month after they were ready to get on board to roll you, that didnt pan out and they needed another platform to wage war and they found you willing. That treaty was of pure convenience and real politik. And that is showing today as they fight with 25% of thier nations. You're lucky to have friends in FARK and Sparta and some of SNX. @Azaghul, TOP didn't put terms for others, you had your own stake in it, TOP has a very very consistent history of putting terms and reps on every front they've won in past few wars.
  23. I said during and after war, and incidents other than just pixels. Didn't expect you to chain in on rey's hyperboles, you're a lot more reasonable than that lot. This fixation on our ties with DBDC is interesting nonetheless, one might paint it as lulzism, cowardness, etc, but ultimately, this fixation is driven from the fact that many at your side hoped that wed duke it out, instead we solidified the web on our end. You are accusing both of us of playing politics and turning a very destructive conflict into a partnership of mutual benefits. You paint it around as some moral and honor story or some sort of unique case of hostile parties turning to be friends. You did it with TOP, whome you paid reps too, and with them you imposed terms for an act that TOP is doing itself at the moment. Point being, You've played all shades of politics yourself, you have allied yourself to those whove played all sorts of politics. Frankly, that is perfectly fine. It just won't add up to the moral and honor standards you've set up to scrutinize others.
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