Except they're not the ones in a hole, nor are they the ones that have been in the spotlight for a series of colossal blunders.
So, that basically makes no sense.
I don't see why people are getting called haters, here.
There is a reason there is a normal way of going about starting an alliance. Apparently those of us that are willing to point that out (those of us with common sense, and are blunt enough to use it) are apparently haters.
What a retardedly polite society. To the point of a fault.
I'm not trolling anyone. I don't know who you are and honestly couldn't give a damn. Just my (rather anonymous) advice for an alliance that has a lower NS than my nation.
huh
I have advice for you. Whether you want it or not.
You should go out and join an established alliance, build up your nations, then break off with a few friends (who each have as much NS as your entire alliance does now), and start a new alliance.
Actually, they DID have to decom their military, send reps, and not send out foreign aid. Those weren't optional.
Or were you talking about something else? If so, you missed the point of the entire thread.
Well, I mean, not really a grander scheme any more than the OP makes it out to be.
If we like them, it will grow into something further. If it doesn't, expect to hear nothing more of it.