Yankees Empire

[quote name='sir pwnage' timestamp='1358978832' post='3084259'] Us and TPF are at peace with the way this war turned out. They're doing exactly what we would do (and have done) in their position. We have no grievance with the path they've chosen to take. [/quote] Which is fine. But I know when we were rolling XX (Two wars ago, now?), you didn't see us trolling Sparta's allies (although they cancelled on us soon after). But to each their own. [quote name='supercoolyellow' timestamp='1358978866' post='3084261'] Bored how? [/quote] Mostly bored with CN. I only speak for myself, but it's like, "Welp, ok." I'm not disappointed or upset with being rolled. It just is. Maybe I'm just pining for the days of Karma when I was hyper-interested in CN

[quote name='smurthwaite' timestamp='1358976886' post='3084243'] Oh, I don't begrudge your strategy, just that you are bored. No, I wasn't trying to troll you - I actually like ODN. I was simply offering a solution. (And let's be clear - you were at the top of my NS range when I declared.) [/quote] And I'm more bored because this war is boring (which likely stems from the fact that CN hasn't held my attention in months), not because you guys are bad at war. [quote name='The Big Bad' timestamp='1358976575' post='3084242'] Give it a few months it will grow on you. [/quote] Glad to see you sticking with INT!

[quote name='smurthwaite' timestamp='1358975652' post='3084236'] You could try fighting back? I am bored too, big guy. [/quote] Oh, forgive me for trying to budget myself while fighting three larger nations. Meanwhile, the first NATO nation I hit already offered to surrender.

If this is how NPO and co. felt being rolled in Karma, then I'll be really disappointed. I'm still bored.

[quote name='King Louis the II' timestamp='1358805511' post='3082597'] Not really. The optional doesn't mean to avoid fights. ODN just do whatever they (or MK, C&G, but not the point) want despite treaties. Thats what the optional means. This was true years ago and is still true now. [/quote] ITT Sparta reminds me why I am very glad we are no longer allies.

[quote name='Rotavele' timestamp='1358786502' post='3082378'] Now come on, they aren't gonna roll you that bad, No need to take extreme measures. [/quote] I hope not. I would hate for my crysthanamums to be destroyed. That would be rude.

Continuum? Optional? By God! My time machine worked! It's 2008!

[quote name='Ogaden' timestamp='1350527349' post='3042357'] Congrats on your new NAP, BFF [/quote] You clearly don't recall Article V of the ODN-BFF treaty.

Glad glorious MK approved of ODN's approval of TLR's charter change. o/

[quote name='Princess Doomee' timestamp='1348856509' post='3035255'] Very interesting....NPO is beefing up their FA Dept big time. Add to that the fact Brehon has gone radio silence on Bootleg and what does it all tell you? For starters, they don't need to increase FA because nobody give's a big rat's ass if they hit us or not. As for bootleg, Brehon knows damned well that if I start ranting about things it will put a big PR hit on him. Once again, nobody cares Brehon so do a radio show and let me speak cowboy!!! [/quote] FAN, your persecution complex is so cute.

15 days till the ODN-NPO treaty is announced, and the world will quiver beneath our feet. Be prepared.

Just so you know, ODN is canceling on Int because Craig smells.

[quote name='OsRavan' timestamp='1348255439' post='3032818'] ::yawn::. When the modern ODN goes and runs away from a war you can mock us. Until then, I call hot air. We have repeatedly sacrificed pixels for our allies. And will do so in the future. I also dont feel the need to chest thump. If I can limit damage to my alliance (*and* my allies) by getting people in to help us... im going to do it. If you wouldnt do the same for GOD you deserve to be run out of your alliance imo. If your complaint is that ODN tried to pull in people to help us fight in the last war... then excuse me while i eye roll. We did. And I also promise you we will do so again next war (omg! breaking news!) As an alliance leader my *job* is to attempt to have as much strength on my side and as little on my enemies as possible. Whether I succeed in that goal or not will not impact one whit how long ODN stays in a war or whether we go into a war. Optional Defense Network is very 2008. But I also see no need to pretend to be macho and act like I dont want to win. Wanting to win does not equal being afraid to take damage or lose. [/quote] This just in: if you don't martyr yourself, you're evil.

[quote name='VladimirLenin' timestamp='1348223833' post='3032686'] Ding ding ding. Welcome to ten pages ago when I was discussing how INT gets no respect. Y'know, I wonder how CnG would react if it was a different old friend tied to one of us that made the "stupid move." What if it was TPE ODN? Or DiCE TLR? Or IAA GATO? See the problem here isn't that it was LSF, it was all about numbers and you were cowards because you didn't think we could win. Calling them stupid is just a copout to this fact. I'm done with this thread. [/quote] I'd be rather surprised if TPE did this. They disbanded and merged into ODN a while ago. But if they had, I imagine they would have been smart enough to wait to see if CnG would back them up before jumping off a building.

[quote name='Biff Webster' timestamp='1348201791' post='3032584'] I bet that six page FA thread yankee refers to consists mostly of ODN'ers discussing which MK gov member they think is cuter. [/quote] I voted for Leet, but I was outvoted.

[quote name='Hereno' timestamp='1348161257' post='3032319'] Without Admin, there is no Planet Bob. Admin is responsible for Planet Bob. Admin is responsible for the death of this treaty. [/quote] Yep, you could definitely say that, and it makes logical sense. Except the situations are completely different. It's like saying (OOC: if the British don't tax the colonies without representation, then there's no War in Iraq).

[quote name='Sabcat' timestamp='1348160465' post='3032315'] Another post from another Int ally trying to cloud the water. What is being discussed here is not blame for the war. We have at no point tried to blame anyone for the war with NoR, other than NoR for having the audacity to exist. The discussion is about the decision of the LSF to cancel our treaty with Int because they said one thing and did another. It's not rocket science and should really have never been more than 10 posts long. Instead we get the comedy gold of various Int members and their allies posting drivel about the constitution of their alliance and contrary claims about who knew what, when. In short we have 16 pages and counting of confirmation that our decision to cancel was entirely correct. [/quote] Without the war, there is no cancelation. You are responsible for the war. You are responsible for the death of this treaty.

[quote name='D34th' timestamp='1348159941' post='3032311'] CnG and The International should follow this man advice. [/quote] You're right. I take full responsibility for what ODN and CnG did. We told Int that we had their backs, no matter what they did, but told them LSF were trying to play all of us like a fiddle, and that going into this war was a tremendously bad idea. Guilty.

[quote name='Tank4ever' timestamp='1348159573' post='3032307'] "I will disregard everything said here in favor of my bias beliefs" [/quote] Right back at you.

Now that a) currently out of government and b) LSF and Int are no longer allied, I feel like I can freely say I am glad Int and LSF are no longer allied. LSF, you are a horrible alliance. You've displayed a level of incompetence not seen around these parts since Peggy Sue ran UPN, or when GGA grew fat on Pacifica's teat. I am truly disappointed that NoR did not disband you out of pity. You have brought all of this down upon yourself. You have seen your own alliance sacked, savaged and burned to the ground. Not only that, you have allowed your (now former) ally to suffer public condemnation while you, and you alone, are to blame. Your pride, your stupidity and your arrogance are what caused this. Int are not at fault for you immolating yourselves. Take some responsibility for your actions.

Pretty sure Hiro wants the game to be pulled, just so he can say he was right.

[quote name='hobbies0310' timestamp='1346806849' post='3027921'] The evil shadow gov forced me to not run. But don't worry, I will have my vengeance. [/quote] You're welcome, CN.

[quote name='DanDesade' timestamp='1346121523' post='3025850'] it would appear the outcum for DICK was less than satisfactory. [/quote] Get out of here. But it's always a shame to see DICK finish too soon.

My suggested title, "IDK, my BFF, ODN?" Accords was far superior.

Hey now, DICK is a new alliance. Don't be too hard on them.