Feanor Noldorin

[quote name='HellAngel' timestamp='1356260278' post='3067290'] Funny enough, people always relied on our moralist side when they needed help. When it comes in their way of power, its always a thorn in their side. Somebody has yet to prove to me in what way we were hypocritical. But is this really the topic at hand? No. Not at all. Nobody cares about our supposed hypocrisy when we're following their party line, and people always seem to take offense to it when we're not following theirs. So really, if you people are just fishing for stuff to throw at us, why not bring back Continuum as well? Why not bring !@#$ up from GW3? Not that we actually give a !@#$ what any of you vermin think about us. And not that anyone else gives a !@#$ why anyone would bother to hate an 18 member alliance thats so insignificent that it doesnt matter, but on the other hand still so important as to write rants about it. You guys dont really get the false logic of that whole thing, do you? [/quote] Well said. This thread is a good example of people of both sides making idiotic statements. Good to see you setting people straight again, Hell.

[quote name='Timberland' timestamp='1356458589' post='3067878'] You mean when I was on your side of the treaty web and didn't call TOP out for their !@#$%^&* ? [/quote] It has nothing to do with that. We make mistakes like everyone else and if it puts a smile on your face to comment on it then fine. i was talking about how you use to not make silly comments on things when you didn't know the whole story. [quote name='chefjoe' timestamp='1356464000' post='3067891'] OHSNAP...... Though to think TOP's FA people were ever not realpolitiking and disingenuous was a mistake, Gre at least your eyes have now seen the coming of the light after your long stint in the dark [/quote] Most of those guys have know us for 4-6 years. They've been allied to us for most of that and during the Ram Era some of them stayed in TOP. Stop being stupid.

[quote name='enderland' timestamp='1356447374' post='3067855'] I guess I'm glad we chose not to sign the MDP you counter-offered instead of the Grämlins proposal for ODP you "voted down." No wonder it felt like your FA people were disingenuous. [/quote] I've no idea why someone would offer you an MDP to sign but its a good thing you said no because our Hepagon would not have signed off on that. Would have created quite the mess for both of us. Could you PM me the treaty text? I'm curious how it was written. [quote name='Timberland' timestamp='1356451760' post='3067864'] Tisk tisk Feanor, you've been a bad boy no one likes a liar [/quote] You use to be better than statements like that.

[quote name='Alterego' timestamp='1356433557' post='3067818'] This wasnt known about in advance by DH they swear. Any DH or ex-DH rogue should be considered a preemptive attack by DH. [/quote] You've exposed them. Don't be a punk and back out now.

Dajabo will do a fine job.

[quote name='flak attack' timestamp='1355860257' post='3065414'] [url="http://cybernations.wikia.com/wiki/Eight_Minute_War"]http://cybernations....ight_Minute_War[/url] [url="http://cybernations.wikia.com/wiki/Karma_War"]http://cybernations..../wiki/Karma_War[/url] [url="http://cybernations.wikia.com/wiki/TOP-C%26G_War"]http://cybernations....iki/TOP-C&G_War[/url] [url="http://cybernations.wikia.com/wiki/Doom_House-NPO_War"]http://cybernations....m_House-NPO_War[/url] [url="http://cybernations.wikia.com/wiki/Doom_House-Chestnut_War"]http://cybernations....se-Chestnut_War[/url] [url="http://cybernations.wikia.com/wiki/Grudge_War"]http://cybernations....wiki/Grudge_War[/url] [url="http://cybernations.wikia.com/wiki/Dave_War"]http://cybernations....m/wiki/Dave_War[/url] I think you missed something. [/quote] You've won the battles but they will win the war. You will ... know fear.

Was hoping for a more detailed view of my alliance. So jealous that NG got my airtime.

[quote name='Timberland' timestamp='1355638363' post='3064463'] I doubt you would be spewing this nonsense oh how horrible of an alliance Gramlins is if TOP signed with them. TOP had the chance to, but killed it by sending over Crymson. [/quote] I've seen this statement twice in this thread and I feel like a correction needs to be made. Our Heptagon voted down the idea of an ODP. Our alliances have different views on the world and it makes no sense to tie ourselves together at this time. I'm glad to see some old Gramlins in this thread. Good luck and have fun guys.

[quote name='Commander shepard' timestamp='1355416933' post='3063401'] I'm the idiot[/quote] Pretty much.

Umar, IRON is still full of classy people. Don't mind their village idiot. DK just nailed the last couple of pages, well done.

[quote name='Mogar' timestamp='1355191013' post='3062503'] explain why every single ally besides MK canceled on you, and then signed treaties with AI, someone that from all accounts is going to be on the side opposite of MK in the next war? [/quote] We had 9 treaties at the time and only IRON cancelled on us. Your math skills are terrible. [quote name='Link Gaetz' timestamp='1355238232' post='3062654'] Which of course is ironic, given that the OWF has been overrun by MK posters for the majority of my time on Planet Bob, though thankfully it's a bit quieter now. [/quote] You should have been here when the WUT or the Continuum was around. Those shrooms were seen as the lowest of the lows. These halls were run by other people for years and years and it was just as "bad."

The only way to shed to the puppet label is to do what the OWF crowd wants you to do.

[quote name='Schattenmann' timestamp='1354386385' post='3059085'] Now TOP needs to join Doom House. [/quote] Our membership application got vetoed.

Was expecting original work. Falls below the excellence D34th normally achieves.

Drai is continuously passed up for promotion. This is outrageous.

[quote name='The Big Bad' timestamp='1354663026' post='3060373'] TPF was calm but, I was away. Now I return to MK trying keep tech away from TPF. You think we would allow such a thing to just pass by without comment? And you best get your little plotting boys in TOP in line as well or they are going to drag you off the cliff you are so perilously perched upon. Then again with TOP maybe that is just what they want eh? [/quote] If we are little boys what does that make you? A tiny child? I see you've managed to figure out our plan, tiny child. No, we aren't going to cancel on MK and join the mob whose out to get them. We shed all treaties except MK for a reason. We are going to jump off the cliff on purpose and take them with us. Our revenge will be complete.

[quote name='Stewie' timestamp='1354561092' post='3060048'] Gave me inspiration for my new sig. [/quote] Its far more appropriate for NG, that's for sure.

[quote name='Mogar' timestamp='1354532040' post='3059957'] you've already thrown in your lot this time around, the question is more of, will you actually learn something from this or are you content to be lapdogs forever, 3 out of 4 of you I expect to say yes, INT is the only one I have hope for eventually realizing they chose the wrong clique. [/quote] It's funny how alliances are lapdogs when they are on the other side of the war as you. Also, "Know Fear", lol.

[quote name='supercoolyellow' timestamp='1354253606' post='3058446'] Tick. Tick. Tick. [/quote] My thoughts exactly, congrats guys!

The SF-MJ stuff is interesting but the page or so about XX being thought of as an actual threat is hilarious.

[quote name='IYIyTh' timestamp='1353967255' post='3057211'] Well crap, if this was the criterion for having a vendetta or ulterior motives against TOP you sure are going to have to put out quite a lot of fires. [/quote] I would rather TOP and IRON show some class towards one another but there are people on both sides that seem incapable of doing so. All the other fires? They can keep burning for all I care.

[quote name='MCRABT' timestamp='1353953978' post='3057175'] Yes, Yes the cancellation was all my doing, in a Council full of equals I have pup-petered the downfall of our historic treaty. My reasons, I have always hated TOP, my heavy involvement with your alliance and cooperation in FA ventures over the past 2 years have all been a ruse to lure you into a fall sense of security or something like that. Or maybe it is the usual members of TOP grasping onto any excuse they can find to avoid taking responsibility for your alliances' choices, choices that have pushed away TOP's most time proven allies. I wish I could say I was surprised but I have seen this villain script used by the same members of TOP a few times in the past. [/quote] You don't like Crymson, everyone gets that. [quote name='trimm' timestamp='1353957820' post='3057181'] TOP has their version of history, and the rest of the world actually deals in reality. [/quote] Everyone has their perspective on events. Sometimes the perspective matches what other people think, sometimes it doesn't. All these arguments and cancellations boil down to who is siding where in the next war. We've made it perfectly clear that we've chosen a side and so has Argent and IRON. Nothing else really matters.

[quote name='magicninja' timestamp='1353731279' post='3056710'] if you guys grow the balls to do anything. [/quote] They all hate MK/DH, most of them hate us and a lot of them hate you but they all lack the ability to do what is necessary.

[quote name='Omniscient1' timestamp='1353553029' post='3055999'] We have no side, we are only a group of people who sense a chance at creating a better world. [/quote] So that was the recruitment pitch, eh? Very cute. [quote name='Mogar' timestamp='1353555314' post='3056024'] a world where wars are fought because of boredom, no CB, just sheer boredom, is not one I wish to continue to live in, and you might find I'm in the majority. [/quote] Please, tell us about this new world you want us to all live in. It sounds incredibly interesting.

[quote name='Roadie' timestamp='1353548552' post='3055912'] They are. [/quote] We obviously disagree. [quote name='Charles Stuart' timestamp='1353548905' post='3055922'] I was expecting only a downgrade, not a cancellation! [/quote] We both know where we stand in the upcoming war and its not on the same side. There is no reason to keep a treaty that neither side will want to uphold simply for the sake of friendship. We don't need a piece of paper to do that. Farewell, Argent. May Johan watch over you.