Spaarlaamp

Good luck TLR, have fun with Fark

[quote name='The Big Bad' timestamp='1323051567' post='2862900'] So GDA is in the war? And UPN has now declared on FEAR? Who did GDA declare on? FEAR as well? It would be nice if the collection of idiots running that side of the war were to at least figure out who is or is not at war with whom and then let the rest of us know. [/quote] Where do you see GDA? But GDA should feel free to join the fray aswell.

[quote name='Pangui' timestamp='1323051037' post='2862886'] Ball is in your court FEAR, isn't this what you wanted? [/quote] Sure. But what do we have to do with the ball? Acknowledge FEAR is in a state of war with UPN now? Sure. Done.

Yay, FEAR is now also at war with UPN! Edit: Also lol @ calling nuking a non-nuclear nation oppertunistic. It's war, not a cricket match.

Don't judge him too hard, he took it pretty well. [quote][01:31] <~StockHunter[TLR|Gov]> lol Spaarlaamp|FEAR , called my bluff, i loose [/quote]

Word word word good luck word word word fun word word prevail. o/

Have fun Paragon, we like to share our fun.

Good luck, classy move, and stuff.

Yay, declare on Menotah, get USN for free. Best night ever!

I'm rooting for NPO on this one..

All the member medals..! Our members must be so happy!

Needs more iFOK! But congrats

Good to see we're making new friends.

Congrats on signing with probably the best alliance one could be treatied with, Death Before Dishonor

[quote name='memoryproblems' timestamp='1317830716' post='2817117'] Let me spell this out in words that even you could understand. [/quote] Lol, you don't know me [quote name='memoryproblems' timestamp='1317830716' post='2817117'] There are significant differences in the way Europa has/is handling this and the way my alliance and I would handle this. I'll elaborate on those below. 1) Generally speaking, we do not tell our general membership who we are attacking prior to 11:30 CN time the night of attack, much less link a target list. 2) If somebody leaks, the damage would be minimal due to such short notice. 3) If somebody leaks, we would find out who and we would hold [b]them[/b] accountable. 4) We wouldn't go around acting like a 'big tough guy' to cover up our failure/lack of foresight. So Europa says they expected better from their members, it sounds all nice and peachy and admirable, but I think it has been demonstrated to be exactly what it is, stupid. If you are serious about what your doing, you expect nothing more then the absolute worst case scenario. I guess Europa isn't serious about maximising their military ability, I guess they are more intent upon going around and telling people to 'come at them, bro', and hoping the brashness acts as a deterrent. [/quote] As you know by now, the attack had been canceled before the target list was leaked. Europa has two reasons for being pissed: 1) They have a spy. 2) Mogar accepted spied info and acted on it. The second thing is reason enough to war someone over, that's nothing new. All the other stuff you mentioned is irrelevant to this situation.

[quote name='memoryproblems' timestamp='1317812450' post='2816992'] [i]"We screwed up, so we're going to play Mr. Tough Guy and hope people forget about how stupid we were.[/i] -Europa Government You guys are a great alliance, don't ever change a thing! [/quote] How does having a spy equal being stupid?

Never really got to know you, but still sad to see you disbanded. Good luck in a new place!

No FEAR member below the rank of Cadet may post in this topic. Also: have fun guys

[quote name='King Xander the Only' timestamp='1317364087' post='2812518'] Congrats Spaarlaamp. [/quote] Thanks! I'm very exited to work with ShouAS and TheDon, it'll be fun.

Finally a real war. I'm glad you followed FEARs example!

Now start a war so you can show it off!

I got dibs on the 49k NS guy.

[quote name='D34th' timestamp='1316698817' post='2805886'] Also for your information, every single raid is nothing more than bully someone weaker than you and steal their [s]money for lunch[/s] tech/land while threaten to call your friends and [s]punch their face[/s] ZI'd them if they ever fight back. [/quote] Yeah, that is exactly how every raid goes. [img]http://mta-pac.nl/forum/images/smilies/board/icon__facepalm.gif[/img]

[quote name='Fort Pitt' timestamp='1316693611' post='2805852'] The members who continued the raid were not ex-high gov, they were never high gov. I was the only ex-high gov for DT in the raid. I stopped because I happened to be on IRC when Weitze decided to tell us that the guy was actually protected. [b]As for the reps, we're paying far more than the damages that occurred after the stop order.[/b] So if you think we're paying our fair share, you're wrong. [/quote] If that is so, why did you roll over and accept this? Also what's the number?

Good to see you handled this situation FOK! I don't mind raiding, but I do mind the raiders that screw things up for the rest of us, poor show DT.