Sande

GR's motto is the best... We don't have one iirc. I have my own motto though. I intend to live forever. So far so good.

We know something you don't. So far, it's been a secret. 08/09/10. Beware!

LordChozo, you have to realise that no-one with as big nation as yours has ever received full reps from any war that would fully pay for all damages received. And demanding full reparations is making you look stupid. 90 mil rly? I would love to see TOP&co fully restore my nation as it was before the war but that would mean they have to pay at least 100 times as much as their reps were. No-one would accept reps this high. Maybe filling all your 5-6 slots with 3 mil + 50 tech is enough. And even that is a bit too much imo.

[quote name='iMatt' timestamp='1280179943' post='2390218'] Would you say my nation was effective? [/quote] You were good. Our battles in the noCB war and Karma war were really fun. You were in Zenith in Karma war though. But then you decided to leave the game after a strategically launched nuke sent by a certain nation you were currently in war with... GGA was stronger when you were in it. But since Karma war, not many strong members were in there. I was given orders to create possible attack lists against GGA nations before the last war and all I could find was nations with no WRC, no MP, no nukes, low tech or broken trade circles.

So, any bets that someone will try to revive the alliance within the next year? GGA might have had good members but as much as I remember, your .gov has always been the worst an alliance could have. Especially after I read the latest logs and what Dementual and Byron think how a government should work. And their attitude towards other .gov members. Good luck to all other GGA members. I hope you will learn to build your nations more effectively after you join another alliance. The fish will be swimming counter-clockwise on 08/09/10. Too bad GGA won't be there

[quote name='Johnny Apocalypse' timestamp='1280166743' post='2389829'] Look out Kenfolk, you'll be on their EZI list! [/quote] Yeah. But no-one in that alliance can DoW on him at the moment. And probably never because he was apparently the only member who knew how to build a nation.

I am on Lord Chozo's side on this conflict. I don't approve any kind of tech raids and even more tech raids of small AAs that have DoE'd without a protector or that are historically significant. Saying that so people wouldn't flame me for what I will say next. As much as I have read from the logs associated with the situation, Lord Chozo hasn't been acting cooperatively the whole time. I'm not going to logdump but I can say that what he demanded from NEW at first was a lot more than some whole alliances pay as reps these days. The ethics in CN go from one extreme to another. One side says tech raiding is fine, the other one says you have to pay full reps for tech raiding - even when raiding large nations that suffer many million dollars of damage from infra losses. People are really irrational when it comes to defending their ethics and morale etc. Well, NEW has been even more irrational here - even if the nation is protected and he hasn't accepted a peace offer before the next day, they feel like they are free to raid the target again next day and send another peace offer. EVEN when the reps negotiations are going on etc. Then again, CN politics, ethics and morale are really illogical and irrational. People do whatever they want if they can get away with it. Tech raiding, abusing their power over other alliances, forcing other alliances to pay them cash so they wouldn't be raided etc etc. I've seen it all. And it is all based on treaties (and the absence of treaties...).

Mandatory lolGGA. Somehow no other alliance is going through this drama. Y ou must be doing something wrong. Disband already.

MK and ODN are passing each other every other day. Nice.

o/ GR! The fish will indeed swim counter-clockwise. 08/09/10

Thank you, planet Bob for bringing my day a lot of joy and... well, facepalms. It is the best sort of entertainment CN could ever bring. Hell, we don't even need GGA for this. UPN and IRON can easily take over. And maybe Legion and Valhalla too. Nice! Good luck in the future. You will need it

I don't know which scenario will occur but I know 100% that it will begin with a 200-page topic where people whine over the CB.

The OP hasn't been updated in a long time...

Congrats, MK! Proud to be your close ally.

Real classy, NEW. Sometimes I wonder why I don't like you. Now I remember. If needed, I will protect NAAC any way I can.

http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=64843&st=40&p=1806043&#entry1806043 Learn to search please.

o/ GATO o/ Athens

The hotspot is same for all moon wonders. Duh!

If the land grows fast enough for you, you must be doing something wrong. Yeah. Land is there so you would have to buy something besides infra and tech. Balance...

Java is good and easy. Download Eclipse - makes it very easy to write programs. Object Oriented programming ftw.

You are still wrong. You have only 4 to 6 aid slots. 3 mil/100 vs 3 mil/50 means that the first nation builds tech faster. Also it will not be 40-40-20 vs 20-60-20. It will more likely be 30-40-30 vs 20-60-20. But the nations in the first alliance will have a lot better tech advantage.

[quote name='SeuwP' date='11 June 2010 - 09:53 PM' timestamp='1276282393' post='2333484'] All the small nations will grow faster. We would have a lot a mid-power nations (along with the exsister super powers), instead of other alliances which have a bit of low power, a bit of mid power, and some superpowers. [/quote] These so-called mid-power nations will drop really fast when they have to face a nation that has a WRC and 5k more tech than them. Small nations will only grow their infra. And a little bit of tech. Not more then 1000-2000. Infra means nothing in a war these days since tech heavy nations will basically take you back to zero within a week. A nation without tech is worthless. It might have lots of money and some really weak nukes it can launch, but besides that... nothing.

So... You want your alliance to do 3 mil for 50 tech deals when other alliances do 3 mil for 100? In long run it means that other alliances produce more tech for the large nations and they grow stronger than your large nations. Your alliance will be a lot weaker in the war because of that. The last war has clearly shown that lots_of_tech + WRC = ZI in a week no matter how much infra you have. Keep the old price and don't do something you and your buyers would regret later.

Not again! 3 mil for 100 tech is a very good price. Small nations can grow pretty fast with 3 mil for 100 tech deals.

I'm going to fail my exams because I MUST follow this topic as it develops. Too funny.