Darth Andrew

We already have iron and marble. Sorry.

Bump.

Haha, I'm just back collecting.

Hmm. It'd be preferable if he had lead or water instead of cattle, but if we can't find anyone else in a few days, we'll take him. I'll add you in, btw.

I'm setting up a trade circle that includes steel, asphalt, autos, construction, and scholars. Uranium is included, but we still need the following resources: Aluminum: neighborkid Coal: Darth Andrew Fish: Spudnip Gems: Darth Andrew Iron: 150caliber *Lead: neighborkid Lumber: Oil: Spudnip Marble: Rubber: Uranium: Wheat: 150caliber Three people that are already in the circle are on Aqua, though we may be able to switch teams. In any case, post here if you're interested in this circle.

Oops.

[quote name='Xiphosis' timestamp='1296626566' post='2615738'] – having honored their obligations to friend and ally -[/quote] I wish. I really do.

[quote name='Opethian' timestamp='1296467784' post='2612793'] It goes something like this: Days Since Last Bill Payment: 832 Money Left After Bill Payment: $-170,845,314.60 [/quote] Assuming I did my math right, with 15 million coming in every 10 days, it would take 2 months to get you out of debt. Just give us the word, and we'll do it.

[quote name='Haflinger' timestamp='1296454174' post='2612514'] You need to get out of bill-lock, man.[/quote] Yeah, how deep are you in the hole? [size="1"]That's what she said.[/size]

But Chimaera, all that matters is that might makes right.

[quote name='ktarthan' timestamp='1295989811' post='2600887'] You weren't clear enough? You called us opportunists because waited for an advantage. I thought that was pretty clear. We didn't attack sooner because if we attacked sooner we wouldn't have had an advantage. [i]Strategy[/i]. [/quote] "Strategy" is beside the point. If your only goal was to make the game interesting, it doesn't matter whether you have the advantage or not, you just attack.

[quote name='ktarthan' timestamp='1295988633' post='2600840']Still saying attacking NPO is consistent, just our timing is wrong. [/quote] Perhaps I wasn't clear enough. I'm not arguing the strategic reasoning behind attacking a weakened/overwhelmed target. I'm arguing the reasoning behind it. Everyone knows the the CB behind the attack ("NPO is a thr3at lol") on NPO is !@#$%^&*, so now Doomhouse is saying that it was to save CN, or, [url=http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=97713&view=findpost&p=2600525]it's the war CN deserved.[/url] Now, if CN really needed an epic war to make things interesting again, why not attack sooner? CN would have been saved earlier, then. Besides, you guys keep saying that you don't care about CN anymore.

[quote name='ktarthan' timestamp='1295980270' post='2600573'] That isn't what he said, though. He said we should have hit NPO sooner when there wasn't already a war going on. I trust I don't need to explain why this wouldn't have made any sense from a strategic standpoint.[/quote] I didn't realize that alliances should only declare war if they're guaranteed to win. My bad.

[quote name='PotFace' timestamp='1295977837' post='2600475'] Yep. And they say that they're the "saviors" of the game, because it was getting boring. Something tells me that if they come out of this victorious, those that they defeated will be making tech and cash payments. Because, you know, that's what this is [i]really[/i] about. Once their enemies are defeated, I guarantee you that they won't be fighting each other to spare themselves boredom.... I think the whole age of "might makes right" or "because we can" is going to go extinct in this cyberverse - they're not challenging political practice. They're challenging morality itself. That has never ended well. Neither has forcing your own beliefs upon others. The negativity that they have brought upon themselves as a consequence of this war will result in their demise - regardless of who the victors turn out to be. The only ones that might have any kind of a positive future left are those that will call off their attacks, "because they can", or for perhaps the radical purpose, "it's wrong". This game needed a powerful villain. Pacifica, now you are [i]truly[/i] free. In an effort to destroy you, they've done nothing more than empower you and rid you of that role, and in turn, placed themselves into it. And we all know how [i]that[/i] chapter reads. Congratulations, guys. You certainly have made the cyberverse more interesting. But you've sacrificed yourselves in the process. And with time, you're going to pay dearly for it - you have demonstrated political instability - you are a walking, talking liability, armed with nukes. Nobody likes that in the world of politics. You speak negatively about those that don't want to "play the game", as in, "going to war". What you have failed to realize is that the best part of the game has little to do with nation pixels, and everything to do with politics within a world community. If you find yourselves amongst a large group of responsible people, who enjoy actually "[i]playing[/i] the game" as opposed to just launching nukes for the hell of it, then you're going to be the outcasts. There is nothing that you can do to change that. This is Planet Bob. Not Planet of the Apes. [/quote] Well said. If they were actually "saving the game," they would have attacked NPO long before this, and not waited like opportunistic !@#$%^&* until NPO was weak and without much support.

Hypocrites. Complete and utter hypocrites.

[quote name='D34th' timestamp='1295943106' post='2599559'] First piece of this war: [img]http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/786/mkhypocrites.gif[/img] [/quote] This is [i]so[/i] awesome.

If you want to ragequit, try not to look like a complete fool doing it. Good luck to those that have seen the light and have already jumped ship.

[quote name='KINGKrath' timestamp='1295962108' post='2599992'] Why? Because your blitz seemingly failed horribly and you didn't hit the nations that needed hit?[/quote] Um, no? Everything MK claimed to fight for in the Karma War was all one big lie. At least NPO never claimed the moral high ground, only to reverse later. The eighth circle of Hell awaits NPO, while the ninth awaits MK.

Great War IV. This was is that epic to deserve a Great War title.

[quote name='Chickenzilla' timestamp='1295938616' post='2599323'] CN needed this war.[/quote] That's easy for you to say. Excellent read, Schattenmann.

Out of all the things admin could have done to improve the game (that hasn't received any major changes in the past few years), he adds in battle taunts. Bravo, admin, bravo. /sarc

The only way \m/ 2.0 can stay relevant? Bandwagon onto the ebil NPO. o/ Brave New World \o

May Doomhouse rot in Hell. o/

[quote name='Mark Ashton' timestamp='1295820768' post='2594510'] Yeah,, honestly, if you intent to surrender after 15 hours then don't fight at all..... [/quote] This is the truth. Hell, I've probably dished out more damage in one day than THL did in all 15 hours.

Out of all the war charts that have been posted, yours is the most clear. Keep it up!