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The Official Terms Given To TOP/IRON/TSO/DAWN/TORN


Ejayrazz

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Since everyone and their mother has seen them, I mine as well post them since I received permission from the person I received them from.

Terms of surrender of The Order of the Paradox (TOP), Independent Republic of Orange Nations (IRON), Democratic Alliance of Wise Nations (DAWN), The Sweet Oblivion (TSO), and The Order of Righteous Nations (TORN) - collectively hereafter referred to as TIDTT.

General

1. TIDTT admits defeat and surrenders to the collective forces of the Complaints & Grievances Union, and their allies in Sparta, Mostly Harmless Alliance, The Grämlins, Fark, Nemesis, Dark Fist, The Brigade, The Resistance, Aloha, Aircastle, The Jedi Order, Prism Protection Front, Siberian Tiger Alliance, New Polar Order, The Alliance of Angry Bees, FOK, Christian Coalition of Countries, Federation of Armed Nations, BaCoN, Ronin, Global Alliance and Treaty Organization, Umbrella, Imperial Assault Alliance, Open Source Alliance, Genesis, Eldar, and the Order of the Black Rose.

Reparations

2. TIDTT shall pay reparations in the amounts outlined below. In the case of both reparations paid directly by TIDTT and of TIDTT paying for tech deals from other alliances, it is the responsibility of TIDTT to ensure that payments reach targets specified by the receiving alliances.

3. TOP shall pay the following reparations:

300K tech to the Complaints & Grievances Union. Up to 150K tech may be purchased by TOP from nations of other alliances at their discretion & coordination.

25K tech to Sparta.

7.5K tech and $105 Million to Dark Fist.

5K tech to The Brigade.

5K tech to The Resistance.

2.9K tech to Nemesis.

4. IRON shall pay the following reparations:

150K tech to the Complaints & Grievances Union. Up to 50K tech may be purchased by IRON from nations of other alliances at their discretion & coordination.

15K tech to Sparta.

6K tech paid for at a rate of 3m per 150 tech for Fark and a Beer Review which must meet their criteria.

6K tech paid for at a rate of 3m per 150 tech for Grämlins

IRON shall agree to provide BACoN with unlimited cast iron frying pans for bacon cooking purposes

a good bourbon review from IRON leaders for FAN

5. DAWN shall pay the following reparations:

10K tech to the Complaints & Grievances Union. Up to 5K tech may be purchased by DAWN from nations of other alliances at their discretion & coordination.

5K tech and 200M to IAA (SHARED WITH TORN)

6K tech to Grämlins, 3K of which is paid for at a rate of 150/3m

500 tech and a Beer Review for Fark which must meet their criteria.

6. TSO shall pay the following reparations:

40K tech to the Complaints & Grievances Union. Up to 20K tech may be purchased by TSO from nations of other alliances at their discretion & coordination.

10K tech to GATO or it's equivalent in cash at $3mil per 100 or any combonation thereof.

5K tech to OSA and a short essay of no less than 400 words on why GNU/Linux is a superior operating system to Windows. Up to 2.5K tech may be purchased by TSO from nations of other alliances at their discretion & coordination.

5K tech to Genesis. Up to 2.5K tech may be purchased by TSO from nations of other alliances at their discretion & coordination.

5K tech to Ronin. Up to 2.5K tech may be purchased by TSO from nations of other alliances at their discretion & coordination.

7. TORN shall pay the following reparations:

10K tech to the Complaints & Grievances Union. Up to 5K tech may be purchased by TORN from nations of other alliances at their discretion & coordination.

5K tech and 200M to IAA (SHARED WITH DAWN)

8. TIDTT alliances and their members shall not engage in inter-alliance aid except aid required to pay reparations.

Length of Terms

9. These terms shall last individually for each TIDTT alliance. When an alliance has completed the full payment of their reparations to designated targets from each receiving alliance, their time subject to these terms is complete.

Amazingly redundant. So far I have heard "NPO has given worse," well who cares? It doesn't mean these aren't ridiculous just because others have been worse. I have heard this would take at least 100 days to pay off (Someone calculate it), let alone people leaving, not being able to pay, or generally refusing to. I am sure we will be losing some people after this, great, just what this game needs. "I love your tears," I am sure that will be mentioned by one egotistical idiot who adds nothing civil to this discussion, mine as well mention it in the initial post.

I am more concerned with the timing. I do not care how much damage an alliance has done, even to mine, I wouldn't give them terms which would jeopardize growth for MONTHS at a time like NPO has done. These terms are ridiculious, and I laugh even harder at people saying "They could have been worse," alright, we get it, but it doesn't change the fact that these will take too long to pay off. "Others have done it," I don't care for it either, just because others had to you'd think they wouldn't wish for others to go through similar situations. Or, best of all, "THEY DID THIS TO THEMSELVES," yeah, they did, but this is exactly what others have done before; causing others to waste slots for months while another side builds and builds. I guess it is how this game goes, I guess you could have asked for more, but good job breaking the cycle. This is a game and ultimately we play it for fun, good job with adding to the problem at hand that this game faces with months of consequences over one war, but wait! Since this is a game, no one TRULY can grasp this concept since mentioning this is just a game is something none of us can accept, therefore we must do what we can to REBUILD PRECIOUS STATS! TOP, you were stupid for the attacks, but these terms are laughable at best. Mind you, these are terms who were only representative tonight. They'll be more most likely.

Even though I was against you TOP in this war, I hope you absolutely refuse these reps and do as much damage as possible. These terms are a joke.

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Yeah, except when you buy a house, both the Realtor and you aren't stabbing each other with a dagger waiting for the deal to be closed.

Red Herring alert.

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7. TORN shall pay the following reparations:

10K tech to the Complaints & Grievances Union. Up to 5K tech may be purchased by TORN from nations of other alliances at their discretion & coordination.

5K tech and 200M to IAA (SHARED WITH TORN)

What is TORN sharing with TORN?

Also, NUTS!

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I can't speak to what others asked for I can only speak to what Checkmate asked for and we feel our request is reasonable. But to use an analogy......

When you go to buy a house you start very low, lower than you know you are going to get it for and the seller starts higher than they think they are going to get for it. After whittling away at things, you finally come to a deal. That is what negotiating is.

Yea, but if I demanded $300k for a $100k house the buyer would just laugh and walk away.

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I'm not sure why people keep using the 'NPO did worse' line. In terms of reparations the NPO never went anywhere near that astronomical figures we see today. The last major war before Karma, where MK unloaded its entire nuclear arsenal against the NPO before receiving peace, saw terms worth a total of 82k tech (of which 58k went to the NPO) -- less than a quarter of what is being demanded of TOP here.

Ignoring the massive inflation and size differences as per usual...

Oh and Ejay, Feanor posted before the amsg went out :)

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PEANUTS!

Also, did you know that the reps that the NPO are paying are greater than all the reps we've ever asked of other alliances, combined?

well minus disbanding ONOS etc., but thats an issue for another day

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Yea, but if I demanded $300k for a $100k house the buyer would just laugh and walk away.

You haven't gone house shopping in the last 5 years then.

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Honestly, attack them down to rubble, set an example, and move forward.

Uhh, they're nowhere near rubble yet. A lot of them have decent enough warchests to build back to 14k infra, and they have about 70% of the tech they started with.

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I'm not sure why people keep using the 'NPO did worse' line. In terms of reparations the NPO never went anywhere near that astronomical figures we see today. The last major war before Karma, where MK unloaded its entire nuclear arsenal against the NPO before receiving peace, saw terms worth a total of 82k tech (of which 58k went to the NPO) -- less than a quarter of what is being demanded of TOP here.

Proportionality.

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I didn't really have a lot to do with setting these proposed amounts, but do note that the amount of reps asked for from everyone put together is less than the amount of tech CnG has lost in this war. To say nothing of the infra, warchests, and land. TIFDTT completely disregarded international convention by preemptively aggressively striking our entire bloc with no CB. In light of that, how unreasonable are these reps?

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Uhh, they're nowhere near rubble yet. A lot of them have decent enough warchests to build back to 14k infra, and they have about 70% of the tech they started with.

Exactly my friend. keep attacking them until they :are:, so they can avoid the redundant months of paying reps. The only thing worse than this, now, is reducing them to rubble and THEN asking for reps, which NPO was more prone to do than CnG and company.

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Exactly my friend. keep attacking them until they :are:, so they can avoid the redundant months of paying reps. The only thing worse than this, now, is reducing them to rubble and THEN asking for reps, which NPO was more prone to do than CnG and company.

Will do :smug: Personally I was glad these were turned down, I would have liked to see way more asked. And this was actually the first time I saw the numbers btw.

Also I'm calling complete bogus that you didn't give the link to TOP before amsg-ing it. Otherwise MK has a serious competitor. Seriously though, don't pretend that you didn't let them know ahead of time.

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I didn't really have a lot to do with setting these proposed amounts, but do note that the amount of reps asked for from everyone put together is less than the amount of tech CnG has lost in this war. To say nothing of the infra, warchests, and land. TIFDTT completely disregarded international convention by preemptively aggressively striking our entire bloc with no CB. In light of that, how unreasonable are these reps?

In all fairness my brother, nothing is fair when it takes MONTHS and MONTHS to pay for a war that everyone (ESPECIALLY CNG) wished for. It is no lie alliances like MK wished for TOP's destruction for a long time, and though I am not defending TOPs' actions nor will I, someone along the lines needs to be the bigger person and end this vicious cycle where we somehow feel months of reps are okay because worse has been offered before. I remember dealing with MK when I tried getting NoWedge out of Valhalla through Continuum (Thanks ChefJoe! and friends) and remember telling me how they would NEVER wish such terms to ever present itself again. I wish I had the logs of Archon and your government telling me this, but sadly I do not.

Kick their $@!. Kick their stats. Kick them so they cant build back up easily, but dont make them suffer for months. It is just my opinion, as you have yours, and I respect your civility in the matter with how you present yourself and your question.

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Will do :smug: Personally I was glad these were turned down, I would have liked to see way more asked. And this was actually the first time I saw the numbers btw.

Also I'm calling complete bogus that you didn't give the link to TOP before amsg-ing it. Otherwise MK has a serious competitor. Seriously though, don't pretend that you didn't let them know ahead of time.

You have no idea how much spare time we have on our hands. We were all sitting here waiting for a link to be pasted so we could do this.

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I didn't really have a lot to do with setting these proposed amounts, but do note that the amount of reps asked for from everyone put together is less than the amount of tech CnG has lost in this war. To say nothing of the infra, warchests, and land. TIFDTT completely disregarded international convention by preemptively aggressively striking our entire bloc with no CB. In light of that, how unreasonable are these reps?

Not fun when the shoes on the other foot, eh? Any terms that go over a month are very unreasonable.

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Will do :smug: Personally I was glad these were turned down, I would have liked to see way more asked. And this was actually the first time I saw the numbers btw.

Also I'm calling complete bogus that you didn't give the link to TOP before amsg-ing it. Otherwise MK has a serious competitor. Seriously though, don't pretend that you didn't let them know ahead of time.

I was in a talk with Crymson in skype, along with Jasmine and Bloodfury from Ronin. It was posted in Skype before anything else. ;)

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You have no idea how much spare time we have on our hands. We were all sitting here waiting for a link to be pasted so we could do this.

o ya baby would be proud!

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