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#9181 Triyun

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Posted 20 April 2015 - 07:11 PM

Its not much fun playing when no one wants to play other than in their own sand box.  Arabia-Japan Arabia-Draka had potential if people played real RP.



#9182 Mogar

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Posted 21 April 2015 - 12:43 AM

It's also fun to play in a world where battles aren't predetermined with only one victor.



#9183 Evangeline Anovilis

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Posted 21 April 2015 - 03:53 AM

Its not much fun playing when no one wants to play other than in their own sand box.  Arabia-Japan Arabia-Draka had potential if people played real RP.

In my opinion, you do hype Arabia a bit too much. Yes, they topped out at 1.8 million or so combat soldier potential, and had a ton of oil, but hardly anyone of them was known for military prowess and after the initial rush, it mostly became just Greywall posting once a week at best. Arabia had potential, if people were prepared to go and try work on it for a greater period of time, like say two years, in which they accumulate ressources and knowledge. Also, it should be noted that arabia didn't seriously compete for anything, compared to Draka, which challenged the NPT and Japan, which used its new-gained American territories. If you want to cry about Arabia having fizzled out, you should first cry about how MGL and Shammy, people who were capable and had ressources went out. Otherwise, Arabia is just the multiplayer version of Lynneth, at best.

 

Also, it should be noted that there's more to RP than just politics. I do like my political RPs, as you may know, just like I am fond of my naval developments, but I also try to work on character RP and work out nice meetings with people. I think you could try work on some other things too from time to time. I mean, you did so in the past, when Sarah was around, I think you can do so again. And I don't know, maybe you can get Sarah to write a story with you again, or you try RP with someone else. Yuan Shizi is a character that can use some development, especially if he ever wants to be seen as a person that can stand next to his father, instead of being just the less great version of Yuan Jia.

 

I would think that if you want people to fight, then you need to give a reason to. People who feel no attachment to the RP whatsoever, will not fight, because it's a pain to deal with.

 

It's also fun to play in a world where battles aren't predetermined with only one victor.

Given CNRP does not close it's doors to anyone, something that should be preserved, it is unlikely we'll ever end up in a world where everyone is equally talented and knowledgeable in different areas. And that's something that is plaguing every RP where people with differing amounts of talent and knowledge coexist. It is what happened in CNRP2, when the numbers were more equal and it would have happened in CNRPA, if more knowledgeable people were present. It's something you should learn to live with, just alone because it happens IRL on a daily basis. And you can either accept this status quo and try to find a modus vivendi that allows you to be happy still, you can try to do something about it, to change this status quo, or you can complain. The first will may lead to happiness, not necessarily change, the second may lead to change, not necessarily happiness and the third will lead to neither, because unproductive complaining isn't getting you further and just reinforces the misery felt.

 

And while opposing Triyun means that you get confronted with IC insults and hurdles that can be harsh, if not outright war, which most likely will be lost, opposing you in CNRP2 got me insulted as a person, not a character and it ended with systemic action to remove me, which imo, is even worse than geting IC hurdles. RPing and cooperating with others means to give and take and that some effort might need to be put in there that will never pay off and that some wishes will maybe never become true, because they conflict with others and we make concessions to allow all people to have some level of success. These are basic social skills and norms on how to get along in a community and while Triyun is known for just stonewalling others diplomatically and using his military strength and reputation to leverage others for maximum gain, his policy is still less of a headache than your fits and temper tandrums the moment just about anything does not go your way.



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Posted 21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM

Character RPs are great but its a national RP.  Characters exist within it.  Characters exist in all stories.  What makes cybernations unique is the national and therefore political aspect.   Setting and themes still matter.  



#9185 Evangeline Anovilis

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Posted 21 April 2015 - 11:35 AM

Character RPs are great but its a national RP.  Characters exist within it.  Characters exist in all stories.  What makes cybernations unique is the national and therefore political aspect.   Setting and themes still matter.  

Don't need to tell me that. A nation centered around characters is the easiest to maim, because like an achilles heel, you can let it die by merely taking out a couple leaders. If characters are merely the extension of the nation, then, like with a hydra, it is pointless to merely decapitate it, because the heads will just keep growing back and a larger systemic approach for change is required. I posess the intelligence necessary to learn at least as much in my years in this RP, where my leadership has been hunted down at times, imprisoned at others and character focus does not benefit the state if it is taken too far.

 

Nevertheless, noone asked you to sacrifice your nation. I merely suggested you could actually do something with the characters you create that is maybe a bit more personal. In the end, it is your decision though, just like pretty much all advise I ever give.



#9186 Triyun

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Posted 21 April 2015 - 03:19 PM

I've done that, now I want to blockade someone.



#9187 Evangeline Anovilis

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Posted 21 April 2015 - 04:28 PM

Doubt it needs me to tell you that this is unlikely to happen, unless you engineer something, which we both know will neither be enjoyable for the other side, nor will it satisfy you in the end.



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Posted 21 April 2015 - 06:32 PM

We ne'er see our foes but we wish them to stay,
They never see us but they wish us away;
If they run, why we follow, and run them ashore,
For if they won't fight us, what can we do more?



#9189 Evangeline Anovilis

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Posted 21 April 2015 - 06:40 PM

Well, noone should ever say I did not try...



#9190 Justinian the Mighty

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Posted 23 April 2015 - 02:10 PM

Do. Or do not. There is no try. :v:



#9191 Evangeline Anovilis

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Posted 07 May 2015 - 10:34 AM

Someone ought to start nominations for a replacement GM.



#9192 KaiserMelech Mikhail

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Posted 08 May 2015 - 06:12 PM

The three GMs are me, Justinian, and PD.  Unless something happened to PD that I am completely and innocently unaware of, *hides shovel* I think we're good.



#9193 Evangeline Anovilis

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Posted 09 May 2015 - 04:19 AM

The three GMs are me, Justinian, and PD.  Unless something happened to PD that I am completely and innocently unaware of, *hides shovel* I think we're good.

Nothing happened, for over 25 days, thus causing inactivity.



#9194 Mogar

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Posted 09 May 2015 - 04:22 AM

You're also gonna need a new mapmaker.



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Posted 09 May 2015 - 10:19 AM

Or, you know, no map?



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Posted 18 May 2015 - 02:22 AM

That's fantastic. I'm finally elected GM and I go inactive ICly lol. 



#9197 Justinian the Mighty

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Posted 18 May 2015 - 12:07 PM

Sorry PD :/



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Posted 18 May 2015 - 02:49 PM

That's alright mate.






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