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[quote name='Markus Wilding' timestamp='1298997802' post='2648218']
All you built were AA guns. There was no mention of bases, tunnel or trenches until that post.
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Re-read the post and continue. You could have PMed me that. As im a new RPer and so are you it would help to learn from mistakes rather than throws tears down your cheeks.

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[quote name='Markus Wilding' timestamp='1298997350' post='2648209']
http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=99265&view=findpost&p=2648203

This is just absolutely ridiculous and needs to be retconned. There is no way you can make trenches, underground tunnels, etc. in one post. These sorts of things take time to make, not one lawlpost.
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[quote name='Rotavele' timestamp='1298997679' post='2648213']
The RP was started here. http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=99260&st=0&p=2647143&fromsearch=1&#entry2647143 Now stop looking for excuses, Get a box of tissues, and get over it. Its a game.
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That link only says about anti aircraft bunkers. No trenches, no tunnels, no fortifications. I have made a ruling on it in the thread, [url="http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=99265&view=findpost&p=2648216"]LINK[/url]

Yes, it is only a game, but like every other game this game has rules too. So play by the rules. Edit the things out which you have not RPd earlier.

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I remember you being in CNRP before. I distinctly remember your nation from before and I recognized your name. Lying to me will not help your problems.

Case in point: Here's an old RP thread of yours: http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=44662

As you can see, you are not a "new" player. New to the Fantasy RP forums, yes, but not to CNRP.

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[IMG]http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb144/zoot_zoot/Spyoddstwo.jpg[/IMG]

Two rolls please to find the location of his chemical and biological weapons factories and hisnon nuclear storage arsenals.

ninja edit
70% odds

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[IMG]http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a307/gold_skywalker/3012011Spyroll.png[/IMG]

Two rolls against cent-- first to block access to harbor files, second to detect and jam/destroy intelligence gathering aircraft.

Doubt I need an extra roll to delete my own files, but if I do, count it as a third roll.

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Just an objection to the above, his first roll should not count as a succesful roll of me would mean I get the intel and an unsuccesful one that I didn't and my access was blocked. The second roll should not be done as detecting stealthed aircraft has never been up to rolls and isn't a spy op but just common sense.

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[url="http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=99312&view=findpost&p=2648978"]God Moding[/url] never gave me the chance to RP my high mobilization RP where I have Anti-Aircraft batteries in many places.

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[url="http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=99312&view=findpost&p=2648996"]http://forums.cybern...dpost&p=2648996[/url]

Need a GM ruling here. Out of 384 missiles fired, Rotavele only RPs three hitting targets. In fact, this entire thread is a travesty.

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I would like to ask a GM ruling on [url="http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=99312&view=findpost&p=2648835"]this thread[/url]. Rotavele clearly states in the OP that he is using an OOC explanation for justification for IC actions, a clear crossing of the OOC/IC line. I would like to see the thread wiped. Thank you.

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[quote name='Zoot Zoot' timestamp='1299001842' post='2648281']
[IMG]http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb144/zoot_zoot/Spyoddstwo.jpg[/IMG]

Two rolls please to find the location of his chemical and biological weapons factories and hisnon nuclear storage arsenals.

ninja edit
70% odds
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70% Odds. 0-30 is a fail, 31-100 is an win. First one fail, second one win.

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[quote name='Centurius' timestamp='1299011718' post='2648431']
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2 more rolls against the FRA please.

http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=82847&pid=2648427&st=60&#entry2648427
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[IMG]http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww110/gokulvarmank/cent2.jpg[/IMG]

50% Odds. 0-50 is a fail, 51-100 is an win. First one win, second one fail.

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[quote name='Germanic Republic' timestamp='1299022563' post='2648754']
[IMG]http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a307/gold_skywalker/3012011Spyroll.png[/IMG]

Two rolls against cent-- first to block access to harbor files, second to detect and jam/destroy intelligence gathering aircraft.

Doubt I need an extra roll to delete my own files, but if I do, count it as a third roll.
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[IMG]http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww110/gokulvarmank/germani2.jpg[/IMG]

50% Odds. 0-50 is a fail, 51-100 is an win. First one win, second one fail.

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[quote name='Pravus Ingruo' timestamp='1299032244' post='2649044']
The "OOC: Admittance of No Obligation". By using a comment with OOC tags to back up his argument in his OP, he is crossing the OOC/IC line.
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You seem like a person who goes very far just to get whatever you want without any resistance. Really, it is quite pathetic.

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[quote name='Fizzydog' timestamp='1299032489' post='2649058']
You seem like a person who goes very far just to get whatever you want without any resistance. Really, it is quite pathetic.
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And there's the OOC bitterness from you. Congrats on finally bringing it into the open. The thread is really of no consequence to me, seeing as my allies won't abandon me. I'm asking for it to be wiped because it is a blatant violation of the rules, not because the actual contents of the thread bother me all that much.

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[quote name='Rotavele' timestamp='1299030827' post='2648990']
[url="http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=99312&view=findpost&p=2648978"]God Moding[/url] never gave me the chance to RP my high mobilization RP where I have Anti-Aircraft batteries in many places.
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Rotavele, you started the construction of these trenches, tunnels, fortifications and bases in the middle of a war. You cant reasonably expect those attacking you to wait while you build them up. Such static defenses were to have been built earlier itself. A regards your Anti Aircraft Batteries since they are in place they could be used to interdict the missiles.


[quote name='Sargun' timestamp='1299031221' post='2649004']
[url="http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=99312&view=findpost&p=2648996"]http://forums.cybern...dpost&p=2648996[/url]

Need a GM ruling here. Out of 384 missiles fired, Rotavele only RPs three hitting targets. In fact, this entire thread is a travesty.
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Rotavele Timmy has fired supersonic cruise missiles. For one thing they are fast and thus require high power radars to even track them. Second thing they are most likely terrain hugging so for most of the duration of their 1500km flight they would be below your radar horizon unless you have RPd airborne radar defenses earlier. Thirdly missiles can be fired from 1500 km range or greater and still find its targets with a Circular Error Probability of meters thanks to modern guidance and navigation systems. So no, their accuracy wont suffer. 5 out of 384 is too low a number even by counting your Anti Aircraft batteries for your missile interdiction. I would say between 200 to 300 missiles should find their targets.

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[quote name='king of cochin' timestamp='1299033008' post='2649068']
Rotavele Timmy has fired supersonic cruise missiles. For one thing they are fast and thus require high power radars to even track them. Second thing they are most likely terrain hugging so for most of the duration of their 1500km flight they would be below your radar horizon unless you have RPd airborne radar defenses earlier. Thirdly missiles can be fired from 1500 km range or greater and still find its targets with a Circular Error Probability of meters thanks to modern guidance and navigation systems. So no, their accuracy wont suffer. 5 out of 384 is too low a number even by counting your Anti Aircraft batteries for your missile interdiction. I would say between 200 to 300 missiles should find their targets.
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Umm what? All those missles hit... What are you talking about?

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Rotavele, hate to break it to you, but odds are your nuclear missiles were all destroyed in the barrage... thems the breaks, it seems - you should have used them earlier :P

I'm going to tentatively move for all 20 being destroyed, barring any other comments from Cochin (Centurius doesn't count I reckon?)

Also, now would be a good time to re-affirm what the community accepts as an initial barrage of 20 (25)* nuclear missiles in a day, followed by 1 (2)** additional strikes after.

* Hidden Nuclear Missile Silo

** Weapons Research Complex.

Note that this 'trickle' strike of 1 (2)** daily*** can also be interpreted as weapons simply being manufactured and saved for later usage.


EDIT: *** DAILY REFERS TO IN RL DAYS!!!

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[quote name='Executive Minister' timestamp='1299033446' post='2649077']
Rotavele, hate to break it to you, but odds are your nuclear missiles were all destroyed in the barrage... thems the breaks, it seems - you should have used them earlier :P

I'm going to tentatively move for all 20 being destroyed, barring any other comments from Cochin (Centurius doesn't count I reckon?)

Also, now would be a good time to re-affirm what the community accepts as an initial barrage of 20 (25)* nuclear missiles in a day, followed by 1 (2)** additional strikes after.

* Hidden Nuclear Missile Silo

** Weapons Research Complex.

Note that this 'trickle' strike of 1 (2)** daily*** can also be interpreted as weapons simply being manufactured and saved for later usage.


EDIT: *** DAILY REFERS TO IN RL DAYS!!!
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There already all gone?

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[quote name='Rotavele' timestamp='1299033300' post='2649074']
Umm what? All those missles hit... What are you talking about?
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What I mean is counting for random mechanical failures and interdiction by your Anti Aircraft batteries ( which I assume consist of AAA guns since you have not described what they are), a minimum of 200 cruise missiles would successfully find their targets. Now, please RP the damages. You must follow the conventions and rules of CNRP.

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[quote name='king of cochin' timestamp='1299033554' post='2649080']
What I mean is counting for random mechanical failures and interdiction by your Anti Aircraft batteries ( which I assume consist of AAA guns since you have not described what they are), a minimum of 200 cruise missiles would successfully find their targets. Now, please RP the damages. You must follow the conventions and rules of CNRP.
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What in bloody hell are you talking about? All of the CMs launched (500+) hit except Timmys who were intercepted by Anti-Missle Defences.

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