Annulment of Annexation Articles

[Maelstrom Vortex]

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The Supreme Court, having seen the actions of the states in the South West and their unwillingness to comply to federal law by going against the First Amendment in their domestic law and by their having supposed 'Federal Elections' without the appointed authority of the Congress and the Federal Election Commission hereby recognizes those states as being in a state of Rebellion against national authority against the Annexation Treaty which gave them the protection and membership of the United States.

We hereby annul this treaty. The states of the South West which were brought into the Union under this treaty are now liberated once more to do as they see fit.. as they have continued to do so since signing this treaty and in doing so acting against the articles they chose to sign on the behalf of their people.

All people in these domiciles are stripped of citizenship.. including candidate Nico Crooks, making him ineligible for the Presidency.

Joseph Scoleri
Chief Justice

Edited July 22, 2010 by Maelstrom Vortex

[AironthFlamewing]

Delaware supports the action of the Federal Court system lead by the Supreme Court.- John Read

[KingChris]

Texas challenges the court's decision. The laws involved in the Annexation Treaty were overturned in the previous Supreme Court case, and since there is nothing else unconstitutional in the Annexation Treaty, it cannot be declared void by the Supreme Court. The elections that had occurred in the southwest are, under current U.S. law, not punishable by ejection from the Union.

[Maelstrom Vortex]

It is not the first elections that were punishable. It's the ones their government just started now without any request from congress or the Federal Election Commission. Is the Texan delegation up to date on the events in the South West? They've started their own elections on the issue when it is still being discussed in congress.

Joseph Scoleri
Chief Justice

[KingChris]

"If Congressional Elections are not approved by the FEC, then it is nothing more than a poll run by the state governments."

[Maelstrom Vortex]

"The problem is the local authorities have gone so far as to try to say it is a Federally backed election, at the time, it was not. There are also stiff resistances in the local government to constitutional and congressional authority. It just isn't working." Scoleri noted.

[KingChris]

"Regardless of what was done, the Treaty of Annexation was PERFECTLY legal, and therefore, the Supreme Court has no authority to annul it. The southwestern states became part of the Union, and once it has joined, no force can expel it."

[AironthFlamewing]

OOC: loltexas
IC:Delaware continues its support of the annulment

[Manetheren]

The Supreme Court of the United States has made a wise decision.

We question Texas's interpretation, though. Arguing something is legal after the Supreme Court rules otherwise is not the way the Tahoan legal system works. Perhaps it is different in America, but the Supreme Court is you know, Supreme...

[Maelstrom Vortex]

"We understand Texas' concern, but once a treaty or law is passed by congress it is subject to Judicial interpretation. That is how our system works and the treaty in question a long with the States of the South West's continuing actions violated the principles of the Constitution and we cannot allow that. That said, the Supreme Court has overturned the law as it has many others." Joseph Scoleri observed.

[KingChris]

"We believe there is an error that the Court is committing. The Court ruled only that the actions of the southwest states, not the Treaty itself, were unconstitutional. Under the U.S. Constitution, it is illegal for the Supreme Court to overturn a law or action not unconstitutional. Those responsible for the elections should instead face trial."

[Maelstrom Vortex]

"The net problem is that the annexation AND the elections are unconstitutional. Under the provisions of annexation the free speech of the people of the South Western states would have had to been compromised in violation of the First Amendment. Any treaty which violates the articles of the Constitution is itself illegal. We had given the South Western time states to decide whether they would strike down these articles and they did not respond, but rather went ahead and started a vote without congressional or federal election commission oversight. Given the combined acts it was in the best interest of the United States the treaty be annulled."

[Captain Enema]

"Ex Post Facto," comes to mind. The first amendment wouldn't have applied to South Tahoe until after they joined. Any laws put into place before they joined would be considered "Ex Post Facto". As the Federal Government saw fit to allow South Tahoe to join the Union with these laws the responsible parties are those election officials who overlooked these laws. These are issues that should have been rectified before South Tahoe was allowed to join the Union.

Hence, the Supreme Court shouldn't be ruling on this matter.

[Californian]

[quote name='Tidy Bowl Man' date='22 July 2010 - 07:30 PM' timestamp='1279852200' post='2385213']
"Ex Post Facto," comes to mind. The first amendment wouldn't have applied to South Tahoe until after they joined. Any laws put into place before they joined would be considered "Ex Post Facto". As the Federal Government saw fit to allow South Tahoe to join the Union with these laws the responsible parties are those election officials who overlooked these laws. These are issues that should have been rectified before South Tahoe was allowed to join the Union.

Hence, the Supreme Court shouldn't be ruling on this matter.
[/quote]

Our thoughts exactly. The fact that the Supreme Court has manipulated its decisions in order to fit the agenda of the politicians which obviously control it is extremely alarming to Atlantis. In fact, we are offended by the way this situation has been handled by the United States of America and unfortunately we will be canceling our NAP at this time.

[Bull Run]

[quote name='Californian' date='22 July 2010 - 07:34 PM' timestamp='1279852439' post='2385218']
Our thoughts exactly. The fact that the Supreme Court has manipulated its decisions in order to fit the agenda of the politicians which obviously control it is extremely alarming to Atlantis. In fact, we are offended by the way this situation has been handled by the United States of America and unfortunately we will be canceling our NAP at this time.
[/quote]

A shocking measure taken up by Atlantis. In fact we of Virginia are begining to question to ruling as well, though now will highten our guard with our neighbors to the south of our state border.

[Captain Enema]

[quote name='Californian' date='22 July 2010 - 08:34 PM' timestamp='1279852439' post='2385218']
Our thoughts exactly. The fact that the Supreme Court has manipulated its decisions in order to fit the agenda of the politicians which obviously control it is extremely alarming to Atlantis. In fact, we are offended by the way this situation has been handled by the United States of America and unfortunately we will be canceling our NAP at this time.
[/quote]

Cancelling your NAP at this time is a wise decision. I'd also close your borders to American interests. Their unwillingness to sit down and discuss issues with their fellow Americans is a potentially toxic influence. They threw South Tahoe under the bus to save themselves having to defend their own people.

Disturbing doesn't even come close to covering it for me.

-Denard, former American

*Denard, being born in New York takes his American birth certificate and burns it out of shame for what his native land has become.

Edited July 23, 2010 by Tidy Bowl Man

[Ryan Milley]

OOC:I think he should be burning a York birth certificate if he lives in New York.

[Captain Enema]

ooc: he's over 40 years of age, hence probably why he's not going to be burning anything from York.

[Ryan Milley]

OOC:Then probably New England. JED's been having his history go back to the 80's and he says it's 2026.

[Centurius]

[quote name='Ryan Milley' date='23 July 2010 - 01:44 PM' timestamp='1279885442' post='2385742']
OOC:Then probably New England. JED's been having his history go back to the 80's and he says it's 2026.
[/quote]

OOC: Mods said until 2005 most of the real life history can be considered true.

[Sargun II]

OOC: http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=57034&view=findpost&p=2384855
I was on lock. Sorry, babe.

Edited July 23, 2010 by Sargun