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[Voodoo Nova]

Dual Monarchy Names New Head of Defense

Today, King Raczyński stated in a speech that he and his compadre had agreed to appoint a new minister of defense after the death of the previous one last week.

Former Minister of Defense Rraskinopf had been the head of Defense in the Kingdom of Czechia prior to the formation of the Commonwealth, wherein he took office as head for both Kingdoms, as part of the new Imperial Cabinet headed up by both Kings.

The new Minister, Michael Saviri, a well known technology designer of the Polish Armed Forces, served under King Raczyński. He has served Poland since the Monarchy formed, as well as the Commonwealth.

Michael Saviri

[Malatose]

ooc: I will be rping the role of Michael Saviri

IC:

Michael Saviri was shocked when he heard the news of his appointment to the position of Minister of Defense in the Commonwealth of Poland and Czechoslovakia. He had worked long in hard in the defense industry. First, he had worked as a supervisor for Army Research and Development during the days of the Greater Nordic Reich. It was a position he had enjoyed, until his world came crashing in around him when the European superpower collapsed. He had lost everything, his father, who was a well-known politican, his job and his family. While he held many responsible, he didn't let his hate, anger, and sadness hold him back. It was during this time that he moved to Poland, where he helped the defense industry in that area flourish after the collapse of the Nordic Reich.

"heh, I guess my hard work didn't go unnoticed." he said as he sat in his new office. He had alot of work to accomplish. He had to introduce new doctrines and new technology, in order to push the Commonwealth to the position of military super power.

Michael Saviri in this office.

Therefore, Michael Saviri immediately announced his agenda concerning the Armed Forces of the Commonwealth of Poland and Czechoslovakia. It was simple and to the point.

1. The Military Industrial Complex will be placed in an umbrella corporation, known as Santhe Commonwealth Defense National. This unified organization will ease the R&D process. All major arms production companies in the Commonweath will have a seat on the board of directions, with the Minister of Defense leading the organization.

2. The Commonwealth will undergo radical changes to it's military doctrine.

3. There will be a 5% increase in the Defense Budget.

4. Research and Development will begin on new applications, immediately.

[Uberstein]

"A Nordic Socialist in government office? Despicable." -PM Vilho Gustafsson

[Lynneth]

"A Nordic Socialist in government office? Despicable." -PM Vilho Gustafsson

"Indeed.

We recommend that this man be replaced with a non-Nord. We all know where the Nords go with their excessively militaristic and fascistic ways."

[Mergerberger II]

I have absolutely no reason to believe this man is a Nordic Socialist, but he is as much Nord as you or me, Bavarian.

[Malatose]

"Being accused of being a Nordic Socialist? If you are going to acccuse me, you might as well accuse the twelve millions citizens in Europe who happened to work in menial civil service and production jobs during the era of the Greater Nordic Reich. Future leaders of the nations now in Europe? You might as well accuse them of being Nordic as well.

I'd recommend you work on your logic, my friends."

Edited August 1, 2009 by Malatose

[loannes]

"Despite the accusations of others, this man seems competent, despite his past."

[Malatose]

Major Arms Contract Awarded to Stevetti Arms. Advanced Satellite Research also underway

Stavetti Army Ground Systems and Munitions has been awarded a 5.1 billion dollar Ministry of Defense contract to design an array of handheld weapons and vehicles, for ground combat.

The contract awarded by the Commonwealth Defense Advanced Research Agency was for the first phase of a program dubbed "Future Advancement," which is designed to push the military of the commonwealth well into the future.

In addition, the Minister of Defense has awarded a contract for 'fractionated' satellites to numerous space technological corporations. These systems will be used in future combat weapons, such as surface launched ICBMs and other munitions.

[Sargun II]

He helped develop the weapons that Nordland used. If there was a Nordic Socialist to be pointed at in this government, this man is it.

OOC: Where's your nation? I don't see one.

[Voodoo Nova]

He helped develop the weapons that Nordland used. If there was a Nordic Socialist to be pointed at in this government, this man is it.

OOC: Where's your nation? I don't see one.

OOC: He is playing a character in the Commonwealth.

[Sargun II]

OOC: He doesn't have one, got it. [i thought this was a no-OOC thread? ]

[Voodoo Nova]

OOC: He doesn't have one, got it. [i thought this was a no-OOC thread? ]

OOC: You started it... Now, no more OOC please.

[Mergerberger II]

He helped develop the weapons that Nordland used. If there was a Nordic Socialist to be pointed at in this government, this man is it.

He was nothing more than a low-level man working for an arms bureau that was in Nordland. If you want to go and point fingers at Nordic Socialists, point at ones that actually were legitimately in government, and those that actually designed the system of government itself, not those that merely worked for assorted Nordlandic companies.

The Commonwealth remains one of very few nations in Europe that actually acknowledges its Nordic heritage, so I suppose these wild, unreasonable accusations are to be expected of the uninformed, paranoid people outwith Europe.

[Sargun II]

He was nothing more than a low-level man working for an arms bureau that was in Nordland. If you want to go and point fingers at Nordic Socialists, point at ones that actually were legitimately in government, and those that actually designed the system of government itself, not those that merely worked for assorted Nordlandic companies.

The Commonwealth remains one of very few nations in Europe that actually acknowledges its Nordic heritage, so I suppose these wild, unreasonable accusations are to be expected of the uninformed, paranoid people outwith Europe.

"yes, he was a nordic socialist BUT YOU'RE NOT IN EUROPE"

Thanks for admitting he was a Nordic Socialist and trying to make us seem irrelevant by point out obvious geographic facts.

[Mergerberger II]

"yes, he was a nordic socialist BUT YOU'RE NOT IN EUROPE"

Thanks for admitting he was a Nordic Socialist and trying to make us seem irrelevant by point out obvious geographic facts.

Where have I stated that he was a Nordic Socialist?

[Malatose]

SIC

Michael Saviri stood in the main conference room of the Polska Kompania Statku, one of the main Naval Design Bureaus in the Commonwealth. He was surrounded by his usual entourage of personal advisors, friends and bodyguards. Infront of him stood various scientist, most of whom were personal friends of the defense minister.

Michael Saviri moved closer to the large blueprint infront of him, as he shifted his signature shades.

"What do you have for me, today?" Saviri asked as he scanned the blueprint.

"What we have today for you Mr.Defense Minister is a weapon beyond amazing. You could call it an Anti-Ship Ballistic Missile." one of the scientist responded.

"Anti-Ship Ballistic Missile? I had heard of something similar developed by the old Greater Nordic Reich. I didn't know we had the technology to develop such a system." Saviri responded

The lone scientist shifted his lab coat and responded, "Well, sir, it is complicated but it can be done."

Saviri shifted his shades, "explain to me, how does this work?"

"Well, the system is to work as impregnable weapon. Normal Surface to Air Missiles wouldn't work against such a system. Essentially, it's an Intercontinental Ballistic Missile capable of attacking ships."

"Won't attacking a moving target be hard?" Saviri asked.

"Attacking a moving target, especially a moving naval target would pose a significant challenge for any missile system. For the V-3B Anti-Ship Ballistic Missile to succeed, the system would need constant updated intelligence from a number of sensor systems, both land and cosmic based. For the ground detection part of the system, Scientist decided to go with over the horizon (OTH) radar systems. OTH radar systems are primarily employed for early warning purposes, capable of viewing targets beyond the point where the majority of modern radar systems are constrained by the radar horizon.

Scientist had a choice between sky wave and surface wave radar systems. Sky wave radar systems are often more commonly referred to as OTH-B (backscatter) systems The primary drawback of an OTH-B radar is the presence of a large "blind zone", an area where the radar has no viewing capability. This is derived from the fact that the radars function by reflecting radar waves, usually in the 5 to 28 MHz frequency range, off of the Earths ionosphere. These reflected radar waves then reflect off of airborne or surface targets and travel back to the receiver.

When the Scientist saw these issues with the "backscatter" systems, they went with the surface wave radar system. OTH-SW eliminates the "blind zone" found in OTH-B systems. OTH-SW systems diffract radar waves around the Earth along the surface of the ocean, allowing them to travel beyond the traditional radar horizon. OTH-SW uses advanced Doppler processing techniques to filter out surface clutter and allow for accurate target detection.

Beyond that, the Ballistic Missile would also need an array of space sensor technology. This technology would come in the form is newly developed satellites, which will have EO (Earth Obersvation), CCD Imaging (charge-coupled device), and SAR (Synthetic aperture radar). Bringing this altogether will be radar altimeter, to measure the ocean topography, a comm relay network for datalinking the radar information from the other assets (awacs or the like, 400km from the target) and GPS downlinking will work alongside other units to maximize accuracy in hitting ships on the open seas. On the otherhand, the commonwealth could launch many short duration, micro-Earth Observation satellites in times of conflict.

Another system that will be used will be UAVs. While not needed, they will help by painting a more accurate picture, by doing advanced scouting in front of the war zone. Essentially, the OTH radar will give the base initial idea of incoming fleet. This information would be combined with data of the recon satellites to provide a more precise and more accurate targeting data. In the cruising process, the missile would have to continuously communicate with the base through those new data relay satellites to improve the precision."

An unusual grin appeared on the Defense Ministers face. "Simply, amazing. When will this be placed in production?"

"As soon as you wish, Defense Minister" the Defense Minister responded

Saviri shook his head, "I am most impressed with you all. This design is simply amazing. This will be a nice addition to the Naval build up I have planned."

Missile Specifications

Name: Valius Anti-Ship Ballistic Missile

Weight: 14,700 kilograms (32,000 lb)

Length: 10.7 metres (35 ft)

Diameter: 1.4 metres (4.6 ft)

Warhead: One Warhead or three maneuverable reentry vehicle (Which are capable of switching direction in flight). 250KT or 1 Megaton Nucler Warhead also can be used.

Operational Range: 3,000 kilometres (1,900 mi)

Speed Mach: 10

Missile guidance system: Initial guidance for the missile is inertial, to plot reentry over the spot where the target should be. Terminal guidance will be imaging radar, autonomous laser targeting, and onboard passive ELINT targetting sensor. The advent of advanced image processing technologies, image recognition couple with autonomous laser targeting introduces greater accuracy.

Space Guidance Systems: Satellites with EO (Earth Obersvation), CCD Imaging (charge-coupled device), and SAR (Synthetic aperture radar). Bringing this altogether will be radar altimeter, to measure the ocean topography, a comm relay network for datalinking the radar information from the other assets (awacs or the like, 400km from the target) and GPS downlinking

Ground Based Guidance Systems: Over-The-Horizon Surface Wave (OTH-SW) radar, with a range of 400km

Launch platform: Mobile launcher or silo

The Ministry of Defense has sent out the first order for the new Anti-Ship Ballistic Missile System. The first batch will be entering production soon. This will be the mobile varient.

"

[Malatose]

SIC

Gardno-class Heavy Battleship

Length: 449 meters

Beam: 32 meters

Beam[with outriggers]: 62 meters

Draught: 14.8 meters

Displacement: 496,651 Tons

Gun Armament:

2x 3 55cm (21.7”) L75 Naval Rifles in A and X positions [130 Shells per gun]

10x Dual M11 Mk.II Naval Rifles [5 Dual Turrets Each Side]

Missile Armament:

30x 12[3x4] cell Mark 170 Strategic VLS [2.5x2.5x21m behind main guns]

Defensive Armament

18x Mark 30 45mm Autocannon Gun/Missile System [4000 shells + 48 Missiles per system]

6x 2x4 'Aegir' Mark V ATS (Anti-Torpedo System)

Protection Types:

Heese Naval Armour Composite Type A (HNAC Type A):

50% Maraging Steel, 50% Eglin Steel

Heese Naval Armour Composite Type B (HNAC Type :

50% Maraging Steel, 45% Eglin Steel, 5% Austenitic Stainless Steel

Heese Naval Armour Composite Type C (HNAC Type C):

45% Maraging Steel, 40% Eglin Steel, 15% Tungsten Reinforcements

Triple-bottomed reinforced HNAC Type B keel with void spaces over a HNAC Type C frame; Rubber installed in void spaces, HNAC Type C crossbeams installed across bulkheads to provide protection against kinetic attacks.

925mm @ Main Belt

750mm @ Upper/End Belts

630mm @Lower Belt

925mm @55cm Turret Face

925mm @55cm Turret Sides/Rear/Top

925mm @55cm Turret Barbette

550mm @Deck

900mm @Superstructure/Bridge

900mm @Armored Magazines/Engine Room/Command Rooms

250mm @Bulkheads

Propulsion: 4x 140MW Pressurized Water Reactors powering 10 shafts and 4 internalized water jets. Compulsators provide power from central power system to turrets

Max Speed: 36 knots at [981,029 shp / 731,847 Kw]

Aircraft: 12 Medium Attack Helicopters/Transport/ASW and 4x Medium or 2x Large ASW/Transport Helicopters

Complement: 13,104

Sensors:

1x AN/SPY-5H2E Multi-function Radar [750km detection, 600km tracking]

1x AN-SPS-105H2E Long Range Search Radar [1000km detection]

4x AN/SSS-205E Infrared Search and Tracking/Short Range Targeting Radar [25/30km tracking range]

1x AN/SPS-95 SSR Navigational radar

1x AN/SQS-56 Hull Mounted Sonar

1x AN/SQQ-89 ASW Combat System

Electronics Warfare Suite: AN/SLY-2 (V) Advanced Integrated Electronic Warfare System (AIEWS)

AN/SLQ-32(V)5 ESM

AN/SSQ-82(V)2 Multiple Unit for Transmission Elimination

AN/SRS-1A(V) Combat Direction Finding

Decoys:

AN/SLQ-49

AN/SLQ-25 Nixie

MK-53 Nulka DLS

Fire Control:

1x AN/SPY-5H2E Main Fire Control System (Capable of detection 22,500 targets and tracking 2,250 targets, while simultaneously guiding 300+ missile or gun engagements)

Sub-Surface Fire Control:

1x Mk-79 Anti-Submarine Weapon Control System (ATS)

Countermeasures:

Towed array sonar utilizing a hull transducer or a towed active transducer or both. It is an integrated ASW, Mine Avoidance and Torpedo Defense underwater system

AN/SLQ-48 - Mine Neutralization Vehicle

AN/WLD-1 RMS Remote Minehunting System

Next Generation Countermeasure (NGCM)

Missile Countermeasures:

2x Naval Theater Laser Defense System(NLDS): Advanced Solid State Laser which targets and destroys missiles. (5 MW)

'Rolnik' -Class Guided Missile Cruiser[CGN]

Waterline Length: 272m

Overall Length: 277m

Beam: 34m

Draught: 13m

Average Freeboard 10.51m [Flush Deck at 10m with freeboard of 13m at stem]

cB: .389

Displacement: 47,188 Tons Normal

Gun Armament:

2x 2 M10 Naval Rifles 212mm (8.35”) L60 ETC

4x 2 M11 Naval Rifles 130mm (5.1”) L75 ETC

Missile Armament:

4x 12[4x3] cell Mk170 Tactical VLS Fore [2x2x14.5m cell internal, 3x3x16m external]

4x 12[4x3] cell Mk170 Tactical VLS Aft [2x2x14.5m cell internal, 3x3x16m external]

Defensive Armament:

10x Mark 30 45mm Autocannon Gun/Missile System [4000 shells + 48 Missiles per system]

2x 2x4 tube 'Aegir' Mark V Anti-Torpedo System [254mm wire guided counter torpedoes, mounted on the bottom of the hull facing down]

Protection Types:

Heese Naval Armour Composite Type A (HNAC Type A):

50% Maraging Steel, 50% Eglin Steel

Heese Naval Armour Composite Type B (HNAC Type :

50% Maraging Steel, 45% Eglin Steel, 5% Austenitic Stainless Steel

Heese Naval Armour Composite Type C (HNAC Type C):

45% Maraging Steel, 55% Eglin Steel

Triple-bottomed reinforced HNAC Type B keel with void spaces over a HNAC Type C frame; Rubber installed in void spaces, HNAC Type C crossbeams installed across bulkheads to provide protection against kinetic attacks.

210mm @ Belt [Tapered 20 Degrees]

180mm @ Lower Belt [Tapered 20 Degrees]

180mm @ Upper Belt [Tapered 20 Degrees]

180mm @ Belt Ends [Tapered 20 Degrees]

175mm @ 5.52" Turret

127mm @3.54" Turret

30mm @ Top Deck

90mm @ Armored Deck

210mm @ Armored Superstructure [Conning tower]

127mm @bulkheads

Propulsion: 2x 150MW Advanced Pressurized Water Reactors powering 6 shafts. Compulsators provide power from central power system to turrets.

Max Speed: 38 knots [315,924 shp / 235,679 Kw]

Aircraft: 1 Medium ASW Helicopters [30mx25m Helo Pad, 30mx20m Hangar]

Complement: 1082, 10 Flight Crew

Sensors:

1x AN/SPY-6 Multi-function Radar [600km detection, 500km tracking]

1x AN-SPS-106 Long Range Search Radar [800km detection]

2x AN/SSS-205 Infrared Search and Tracking/Short Range Targeting Radar [25/30km tracking range]

1x AN/SPS-95 SSR Navigational radar

1x AN/SQS-56 Hull Mounted Sonar

Electronics Warfare Suite: AN/SLY-2 (V) Advanced Integrated Electronic Warfare System (AIEWS)

AN/SLQ-32(V)5 ESM

AN/SSQ-82(V)2 Multiple Unit for Transmission Elimination

AN/SRS-1A(V) Combat Direction Finding

Decoys: AN/SLQ-49

AN/SLQ-25 Nixie

MK-53 Nulka DLS

Fire Control:

1x AN/SPY-6 Main Fire Control System (Capable of detection 20,000 targets and tracking 2,000 targets, while simultaneously guiding 250+ missile or gun engagements)

1x AN/SQQ-89 ASW Combat System

Countermeasures: Towed array sonar utilizing a hull transducer or a towed active transducer or both. It is an integrated ASW Mine Avoidance and Torpedo Defense underwater system

Next Generation Countermeasure (NGCM)

Missile Countermeasures:

1x Naval Theater Laser Defense System(NTLDS): Advanced Free-Electron Laser which target and destroys missiles and some shells, also proven to disable satellites in orbit. (5 MW Max Design Output) [Mounted in superstructure's center]

'Pułaski'-Class Guided Missile Frigate [FGN]

Waterline Length: 156m

Overall Length: 160.64m

Beam: 18m

Draught: 11m

Average Freeboard 7.51m [Flush Deck at 7m with freeboard of 10m at stem]

cB: .32

Displacement: 9,973 Tons Normal

Gun Armament:

1x 2 M30 Naval Rifle 82mm (3.3") L75

Missile Armament:

2x 48 [6x8] cell Mk170 Escort VLS [1x1x10m cell internal, 1.5x1.5x11.5m external]

Torpedo Armament:

2x Mark 653 Triple 650mm Torpedo Tubes [Above Deck]

Defensive Armament:

2x Mark 30 45mm Autocannon Gun/Missile System [4000 33mm shells + 48 Missiles per system]

1x 2x4 tube 'Aegir' Mark V Anti-Torpedo System [254mm wire guided counter torpedoes, mounted on the bottom of the hull facing down]

Protection Types:

Heese Naval Armour Composite Type A (HNAC Type A):

50% Maraging Steel, 50% Eglin Steel

Heese Naval Armour Composite Type B (HNAC Type :

50% Maraging Steel, 45% Eglin Steel, 5% Austenitic Stainless Steel

Heese Naval Armour Composite Type C (HNAC Type C):

45% Maraging Steel, 55% Eglin Steel

Triple-bottomed reinforced HNAC Type B keel with void spaces over a HNAC Type C frame; Rubber installed in void spaces, HNAC Type C crossbeams installed across bulkheads to provide protection against kinetic attacks.

90mm @ Belt [Tapered 20 Degrees]

5mm @ Lower Belt [Tapered 20 Degrees]

45mm @ Upper Belt/Ends [Tapered 20 Degrees]

5mm @ Top Deck

20mm @ Armored Deck

110mm @ Armored Superstructure [Conning tower]

90mm+Kevlar @bulkheads

Propulsion: 2x 60MW Advanced Pressurized Water Reactors powering 6 shafts. Compulsators provide power from central power system to turrets.

Max Cruise: 37 knots [127,980 shp / 95,473 Kw]

Aircraft: 2 Medium ASW Helicopters [30mx25m Helo Pad, 30mx20m Hangar]

Complement: 210, 20 Flight Crew

Sensors:

1x AN/SPY-6 Multi-function Radar [600km detection, 500km tracking]

1x AN-SPS-106 Long Range Search Radar [800km detection]

2x AN/SSS-205 Infrared Search and Tracking/Short Range Targeting Radar [25/30km tracking range]

1x AN/SPS-95 SSR Navigational radar

1x AN/SQS-56 Hull Mounted Sonar

Electronics Warfare Suite:

AN/SSQ-100 'StrikeNet' Military Uplink Unit

AN/SLY-2 (V) Advanced Integrated Electronic Warfare System (AIEWS)

AN/SLQ-32(V)5 ESM

AN/SSQ-82(V)2 Multiple Unit for Transmission Elimination

AN/SRS-1A(V) Combat Direction Finding

Decoys:

AN/SLQ-49

AN/SLQ-25 Nixie

MK-53 Nulka DLS

Fire Control:

1x AN/SPY-6 Main Fire Control System (Capable of detection 20,000 targets and tracking 2,000 targets, while simultaneously guiding 250+ missile or gun engagements)

1x AN/SQQ-89 ASW Combat System

Countermeasures: Towed array sonar utilizing a hull transducer or a towed active transducer or both. It is an integrated ASW Mine Avoidance and Torpedo Defense underwater system

Next Generation Countermeasure (NGCM)

'Sokół '-Class Guided Missile Destroyer [DGN]

Waterline Length: 200m

Overall Length: 206.35m

Beam: 20m

Draught: 11m

Average Freeboard 8.59m [Flush Deck at 8m with freeboard of 11 at stem]

cB: .316

Displacement: 14,029 Tons Normal

Gun Armament:

2x 2 M11 Naval Rifle 130mm (5.1") L75

Missile Armament:

1x 48 [12x4] cell Mk170 Escort VLS [1x1x10m cell internal, 1.5x1.5x11.5m external]

2x 48 [6x8] cell Mk170 Escort VLS

Torpedo Armament:

2x Mark 653 Triple 650mm Torpedo Tubes [Above Deck]

Defensive Armament:

8x Mark 30 45mm Autocannon Gun/Missile System [4000 shells + 48 Missiles per system]

1x 2x4 tube 'Aegir' Mark V Anti-Torpedo System [254mm wire guided counter torpedoes, mounted on the bottom of the hull facing down]

Protection Types:

Heese Naval Armour Composite Type A (HNAC Type A):

50% Maraging Steel, 50% Eglin Steel

Heese Naval Armour Composite Type B (HNAC Type :

50% Maraging Steel, 45% Eglin Steel, 5% Austenitic Stainless Steel

Heese Naval Armour Composite Type C (HNAC Type C):

45% Maraging Steel, 55% Eglin Steel

Triple-bottomed reinforced HNAC Type B keel with void spaces over a HNAC Type C frame; Rubber installed in void spaces, HNAC Type C crossbeams installed across bulkheads to provide protection against kinetic attacks.

90mm @ Belt [Tapered 20 Degrees]

45mm @ Lower Belt [Tapered 20 Degrees]

45mm @ Upper Belt [Tapered 20 Degrees]

127mm @3.54" Turret

5mm @ Top Deck

20mm @ Armored Deck

110mm @ Armored Superstructure [Conning tower]

90mm+Kevlar @bulkheads

Propulsion: 2x 60MW Advanced Pressurized Water Reactors powering 2 shafts. Compulsators provide power from central power system to turrets.

Max Cruise: 37 knots [140,206 shp / 104,594 Kw]

Aircraft: 2 Medium ASW Helicopters [30mx25m Helo Pad, 30mx20m Hangar]

Complement: 322, 20 Flight Crew

Sensors:

1x AN/SPY-6 Multi-function Radar [600km detection, 500km tracking]

1x AN-SPS-106 Long Range Search Radar [800km detection]

2x AN/SSS-205 Infrared Search and Tracking/Short Range Targeting Radar [25/30km tracking range]

1x AN/SPS-95 SSR Navigational radar

1x AN/SQS-56 Hull Mounted Sonar

Electronics Warfare Suite: AN/SLY-2 (V) Advanced Integrated Electronic Warfare System (AIEWS)

AN/SLQ-32(V)5 ESM

AN/SSQ-82(V)2 Multiple Unit for Transmission Elimination

AN/SRS-1A(V) Combat Direction Finding

Decoys: AN/SLQ-49

AN/SLQ-25 Nixie

MK-53 Nulka DLS

Fire Control:

1x AN/SPY-6 Main Fire Control System (Capable of detection 20,000 targets and tracking 2,000 targets, while simultaneously guiding 250+ missile or gun engagements)

1x AN/SQQ-89 ASW Combat System

Countermeasures: Towed array sonar utilizing a hull transducer or a towed active transducer or both. It is an integrated ASW Mine Avoidance and Torpedo Defense underwater system

Next Generation Countermeasure (NGCM)

Warszawa -Class Nuclear Attack Submarine (SSN)

Classification: Large Attack Submersible, Nuclear (SSN)

Dimensions:

-Length: 152 m

-Beam: 12.9 m

-Draft: 8.9 m

Displacement:

-Surfaced: 12,750 tonnes

-Submerged: 17,250 tonnes

Crew: [82]

-Enlisted: 63

-Officers: 19

-Endurance: 90 Days of stores

Propulsion:

-1x 200 MW SG6I Improved PbBi-cooled Fast Reactor

-2x DSM12 Electric Drives rated at 29,000 Shaft Horsepower each

-2x 850 shp Auxiliary Diesel Generators for emergency operations

-1x Shrouded Pump-Jet Propulsor [2 contra-rotating screws; nine blades each]

Speeds:

-Surfaced: 18 knots

-Surfaced: 7 knots [Auxiliary Diesel Power]

-Submerged: 25 knots [Max Silent Speed]

-Submerged: 35 knots

Operational Depths:

-Maximum Safe: 800 m

-Never-Exceed: 1050 m

-Crush: 1150 m

Hull:

-Dual Hulls Constructed Out of a Non-Magnetic Titanium alloy

-Both Hulls Coated With an Anechoic Polymer

-Outer Hull Equipped With Advanced 'Muffler' Anechoic Tiles

Armament:

-2x 1000mm Torpedo Tubes

-4x 660mm (26”) Torpedo Tubes

-24x 660mm Torpedoes or 2 Naval Mines per Torpedo or Tube-Launched Missiles

-8x 1000mm Torpedoes

-18x VLS tubes [2 x 11 m Tactical]

Systems/Sonar/Radar/Countermeasures:

-'Mark V' photonics mast

-'Mark VI' photonics mast

-RSS-500 Surface Search/Nav Radar (LPI, I-band)

-RPA-II Sail-Mounted Passive/Active Search/Attack Radar

-'Naval Net' Submarine Battle and Communication Systems Suite

-'Sure Beam' Wide-Beam Laser Transceiver

-SPR-VII Passive Ranging & Identification Sonar

-'Anaconda' Tactical Towed Sonar Array

-Mk.IV Active/Passive Sonar Array

-'Fiddler' Torpedo Countermeasures System

-'Quiet-Noise' Active-noise Cancellation System

-SES-7 ECM/ECCM

Edited August 6, 2009 by Malatose

[Il Terra Di Agea]

Gardno-class Heavy Battleship

Length: 556 Metres

Beam: 129 Metres

Draft: 20.2 Metres

Displacement: 620,200 tons (Normal Load)

Crew Complement: 2,102

Gunnery:

2 x Triple 550mm Railguns

8 x Dual 155mm/52 ETC Naval Guns

Missiles:

1 x 80-cell Heavy SSM VLS

40 x Single ASAT missile tubes

4 x 128-cell Strategic VLS

8 x 64-cell Tactical VLS

Self Defence:

4 x 500kw CO2 Laser Anti-missile units

58 x 40mm Joint Operating Close-in-Weapon Systems,

18 x 30mm Cannons

ASW:

2 x Dual 324mm Torpedo Tube

12 x ASW Mortars

Propulsion: Six 175 MW-rated Pebblebed Reactors for a combined useable power output of 1026 MW at full running.

The ship has full Integrated Electrical Systems, with power to eight Electrical turbines which in turn power four heavy waterjets, providing sufficient power for a cruising speed of 27 knots and a top speed of 32 kts+. Each Waterjet is equipped with a directional exhaust and intakes to improve manoeuvrability and turning ability

OOC: Where to start...

Oh, yah, there is no way any nation could ever afford this. By size alone, this thin is as big as 4-6 Nimitz class aircraft carriers taped together (The Nimitz haz a Length of 317 meters, and a beam of 78 meters at the widest, and 41 meters at the waterline). That puts the (Mostly unarmed) cost at 22,500,000,000 USD. When you throw in some 109 million dollar laser anti missile units, put some real weapons on it, I would not be surprised if the cost doubled.

Then, when you factor in the price to maintain that monster, pay the crew, keep it functioning, you would have yearly upkeep costs of well over 500,000,000$.

Finally, that doesn't factor in that, according to everything I've found, the Nimitz, one fifth or so of this ship, doesn't have fantastic armor. It is on a principle more of "It's cheaper and easier to stop the ship from being hit, rather than make it take the hits." That's going to add quite a bit of money to the costs.

In closing, you have a ship four to six times larger than on of the largest ships ever built, with the crew of less than one, that costs roughly $25.37 per second without armament or fuel it exists, not counting the price to build.

That is really looking like a big, floating, godmod.

EDIT: And to make clear, that's for one. If you have more, well, you know, it costs more

EDIT2: Also, your nation has had a connection to the sea for less than a year, even in IC time, there is no way you could build a fishing trawler, let alone a a massive godmod ship in that time.

IC: "We feel very sorry for your people. Seeing how much money you are spending on military, we cannot imagine how neglected they must be within the nation. So sad."

Edited August 5, 2009 by Il Terra Di Agea

[Malatose]

OOC: Actually, you're right. The ship would be expensive which is why only two are planned. You can speak to Merger about that. The armour isn't *that* fantastic. It's basic stuff you would learn in any advanced chemistry course in college and with a little basic reading. However, I would be willing to tone down the armour to something basic if it makes you feel better to something such as:

Hardened reinforced steel hull, spaced face hardened steel armour with additional L3 TV4A6 armour panelling around most areas. Nylon composite spall liners are incorporated in all areas of the ship. Full and comprehensive shock-proofed superstructure.

Expensive? yes. God mod? hardly. of course, these are simple developments. I didn't state they were going into production. That is up to Voodoo and Merger, of course.

Edited August 5, 2009 by Malatose

[Voodoo Nova]

OOC: Where to start...

Oh, yah, there is no way any nation could ever afford this. By size alone, this thin is as big as 4-6 Nimitz class aircraft carriers taped together (The Nimitz haz a Length of 317 meters, and a beam of 78 meters at the widest, and 41 meters at the waterline). That puts the (Mostly unarmed) cost at 22,500,000,000 USD. When you throw in some 109 million dollar laser anti missile units, put some real weapons on it, I would not be surprised if the cost doubled.

Then, when you factor in the price to maintain that monster, pay the crew, keep it functioning, you would have yearly upkeep costs of well over 500,000,000$.

Finally, that doesn't factor in that, according to everything I've found, the Nimitz, one fifth or so of this ship, doesn't have fantastic armor. It is on a principle more of "It's cheaper and easier to stop the ship from being hit, rather than make it take the hits." That's going to add quite a bit of money to the costs.

In closing, you have a ship four to six times larger than on of the largest ships ever built, with the crew of less than one, that costs roughly $25.37 per second without armament or fuel it exists, not counting the price to build.

That is really looking like a big, floating, godmod.

EDIT: And to make clear, that's for one. If you have more, well, you know, it costs more

EDIT2: Also, your nation has had a connection to the sea for less than a year, even in IC time, there is no way you could build a fishing trawler, let alone a a massive godmod ship in that time.

IC: "We feel very sorry for your people. Seeing how much money you are spending on military, we cannot imagine how neglected they must be within the nation. So sad."

OOC: I'll ignore the tech specifics as that's not where my knowledge is on this topic. Three things.

1. Not even in production. These are blueprints.

2. Like any person with Modern tech makes an attempt to RP an economy with budgets. I can name one or two people that actually do to a degree.

3. At least let us research and develop it. Who knows, maybe it will fail? Don't speak on an R&D before we even start it.

Now, I'll say this again. No more OOC. PM Merger or Myself any issues you have.

[Uberstein]

OOC: Just going to say, taking things to PM usually doesn't work because people ignore them. Maybe I'm still paranoid because of the days of LeVentNoir and his "If you think my stuff is impossible, PM me so I can ignore it and nobody else sees your arguments" attitude, but when it comes to potential god mods, I think the entire community has the right to see the arguments behind something.

[Malatose]

[Reserved]

Edited August 5, 2009 by Malatose

[Subtleknifewielder]

OOC: Apologies, but I have a relevant comment here. the principle of the matter is the same. Even if you have stuff to back it up--taking it to PM's means no one but the questioner sees the answer to your points. At the very least, establish an OOC thread in the Open National forum where people can address their concerns, and provide an easily accessible link to it in this thread or in your signature.

Edited August 5, 2009 by Subtleknifewielder

[Voodoo Nova]

OOC: Just going to say, taking things to PM usually doesn't work because people ignore them. Maybe I'm still paranoid because of the days of LeVentNoir and his "If you think my stuff is impossible, PM me so I can ignore it and nobody else sees your arguments" attitude, but when it comes to potential god mods, I think the entire community has the right to see the arguments behind something.

OOC: Apologies, but I have a relevant comment here. the principle of the matter is the same. Even if you have stuff to back it up--taking it to PM's means no one but the questioner sees the answer to your points. At the very least, establish an OOC thread in the Open National forum where people can address their concerns, and provide an easily accessible link to it in this thread or in your signature.

Take it here: http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=42831

Thank you.

[Voodoo Nova]

SIC

Phone call to Michael Saviri:

Michael, We are ordering the construction of the Warszawa, Sokół , Pułaski and Rolnik classes of ships to replace the ships currently in service. We also would like to see one Gardno-class Heavy Battleship built for research, testing and evaluation purposes. We want it combat ready as well. I would like you to oversee the construction and ensure that it goes smoothly.

End-SIC

Government to Order Ships

The government of the Commonwealth has ordered the construction of the Warszawa, Sokół, Pułaski and Rolnik classes of ships to replace the ships currently in service. The government has also ordered one Gardno-class Heavy Battleshipfor research, testing and evaluation purposes.