Centurius Posted July 30, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 30, 2009 "So you will treat unarmed civilian vessels as combatants?" We will treat civilian vessels who do not have permission to enter the country as terrorists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynneth Posted July 30, 2009 Report Share Posted July 30, 2009 We will treat civilian vessels who do not have permission to enter the country as terrorists. "The vessels transport medical supplies and food. They have all rights to reach Koper and keep both civilians and military personnel living there alive." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sargun II Posted July 30, 2009 Report Share Posted July 30, 2009 We will treat civilian vessels who do not have permission to enter the country as terrorists. You will let hundreds of thousands of people starve to death over a petty argument? In New Zealand, we call that attempted murder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Confederation Posted July 30, 2009 Report Share Posted July 30, 2009 began to play on CEU news stations and on stations all around Prussia. The shield of the proud Prussian people appeared on the screen and the anthem tapered off to Bundeskanzler Tanzband at the Kanzleramt in Berlin. "People of Prussia, of Europe, and the World...I speak to you from Berlin, the heart of Europe and the Legislative Capital of Prussia. I speak to you, as a concerned man. Recently, due to the events occurring in Northern Italy, nations of Europe are again drawing lines and gearing for battle....something that our continent does not need. We, together as Europeans, are the most affluent and educated in the world, there is no reason for us to squabble over petty differences and the internal affairs of other nations. Be it known, if conflict begins, the nation of Prussia shall be in a state of tentative neutrality and will act accordingly to the actions of the belligerents. Although Prussia understands the plight of each viewpoint in the situation, we feel that a middle ground must be met between all parties involved in this impending crisis. That is why I wish to call diplomats from Hr̀vātskā, Bayern, and the Borghese government to meet with me here, in Berlin, so that we may establish common ground before a storm brews that we may not be able to weather. I hope to see representatives of these nations soon, so that we each may be able to say Salve, Servus and Zdravo to a new age of understanding in Europe." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Centurius Posted July 30, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 30, 2009 You will let hundreds of thousands of people starve to death over a petty argument? In New Zealand, we call that attempted murder. They are welcome to buy food and water from the Croatian stores just passed the city borders Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sargun II Posted July 30, 2009 Report Share Posted July 30, 2009 They are welcome to buy food and water from the Croatian stores just passed the city borders So, instead of them being able to buy cheaper and more widely available food in their own borders, they must enter a new country - making sure they comply with all customs laws - and go buy large amounts of food and water from areas that normally aren't made to support such a large population. You can't feed a city full of people on a couple of Kwik-e-Marts down the street. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamthey Posted July 30, 2009 Report Share Posted July 30, 2009 We will treat civilian vessels who do not have permission to enter the country as terrorists. The city itself has its own territorial waters extending from the harbor to international waters, territorial waters that overlap are simply shared. You have no right to stop bavarian vessels attempting to reach the city, and bavaria would be fully within its rights to use its own navy to enforce its ability to send food to its people. Your are starving hundreds of thousands of people, while simultaneously leading a moral crusade against the north Italian government; your hypocrisy makes us sick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Centurius Posted July 30, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 30, 2009 So, instead of them being able to buy cheaper and more widely available food in their own borders, they must enter a new country - making sure they comply with all customs laws - and go buy large amounts of food and water from areas that normally aren't made to support such a large population.You can't feed a city full of people on a couple of Kwik-e-Marts down the street. Actually there are large factories producing food for the area who already supplied Koper before the ban from Croatian territory, the city is still exempt from customs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sargun II Posted July 30, 2009 Report Share Posted July 30, 2009 Actually there are large factories producing food for the area who already supplied Koper before the ban from Croatian territory, the city is still exempt from customs. If they already supplied Koper before the ban, you wouldn't need to block the food coming from Bavaria. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynneth Posted July 30, 2009 Report Share Posted July 30, 2009 The city itself has its own territorial waters extending from the harbor to international waters, territorial waters that overlap are simply shared. You have no right to stop bavarian vessels attempting to reach the city, and bavaria would be fully within its rights to use its own navy to enforce its ability to send food to its people. Your are starving hundreds of thousands of people, while simultaneously leading a moral crusade against the north Italian government; your hypocrisy makes us sick. "And we are planning to do exactly that: Send our ships through this corridor to Koper. If Croatia does indeed make their threats true and open fire on our civilian vessels, then they will see that we don't joke." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Centurius Posted July 30, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 30, 2009 If they already supplied Koper before the ban, you wouldn't need to block the food coming from Bavaria. Sometimes statements need to be made, Bavaria has ownership of the city under questionable circumstances, we can not let that go unpunished the city is Slovenian which is Croatian. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sargun II Posted July 30, 2009 Report Share Posted July 30, 2009 Sometimes statements need to be made, Bavaria has ownership of the city under questionable circumstances, we can not let that go unpunished the city is Slovenian which is Croatian. Questionable circumstances? You gave them the city, you gave it to them fully by your own words, and now you state the complete opposite of what you did before. The only thing questionable here is your word. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynneth Posted July 30, 2009 Report Share Posted July 30, 2009 (edited) Actually there are large factories producing food for the area who already supplied Koper before the ban from Croatian territory, the city is still exempt from customs. "Since Koper became part of Bavaria, it has always been supplied with food from Bavaria, until now sent through croatia via trains or planes. Due to the ban, trains cannot pass through your territory anymore, though planes and ships still can, as our national waters do stretch to international waters in a small corridor. Those factories have been severely underworked for ages. Since Koper became Bavarian, in fact." Edited July 30, 2009 by Lynneth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maelstrom Vortex Posted July 30, 2009 Report Share Posted July 30, 2009 (edited) "And here I was thinking this was going to be a peaceful alliance seeking the prorogation of human rights and democracy.. totally had me fooled.." he checks his watch.."for all of 3 hours. Europe is as Europe was...." Edited July 30, 2009 by Maelstrom Vortex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Centurius Posted July 30, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 30, 2009 Questionable circumstances? You gave them the city, you gave it to them fully by your own words, and now you state the complete opposite of what you did before. The only thing questionable here is your word. In the private discussions we agreed to a lease. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sargun II Posted July 30, 2009 Report Share Posted July 30, 2009 In the private discussions we agreed to a lease. "I confirm that Bavaria does in fact control the Harbor City and has full jurisdiction within its boundaries" -Empress Nadine A. Peacecraft derp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynneth Posted July 30, 2009 Report Share Posted July 30, 2009 (edited) In the private discussions we agreed to a lease. "Regardless of the preliminary discussions, which were unfortunately lost before the King died and to which I thus have no access, you confirmed that Koper was Bavarian in the announcement to which we referred previously." Edited July 30, 2009 by Lynneth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agostinho Neto Posted July 30, 2009 Report Share Posted July 30, 2009 I hope to see representatives of these nations soon, so that we each may be able to say Salve, Servus and Zdravo to a new age of understanding in Europe." Roberto Ciano, Foreign Affairs Minister, is ready to attend the meeting and express the positions of Italy. We are not sure what the rest of the CEU knows about the situation in Italy, and this is a chance for us to show we are not monsters, and we do not kill or threat of starvation the civilian population. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Centurius Posted July 30, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 30, 2009 "I confirm that Bavaria does in fact control the Harbor City and has full jurisdiction within its boundaries"-Empress Nadine A. Peacecraft derp That is the public statement there were plenty of Private Discussions only common sense shows already a nation would never completely give up a city without any kind of payment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sargun II Posted July 30, 2009 Report Share Posted July 30, 2009 That is the public statement there were plenty of Private Discussions only common sense shows already a nation would never completely give up a city without any kind of payment. So, you announce publicly the full transfer of Koper to Bavaria but conveniently hide behind secret private discussion contracts unavailable to the public in order to get out of it when needed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynneth Posted July 30, 2009 Report Share Posted July 30, 2009 That is why I wish to call diplomats from Hr̀vātskā, Bayern, and the Borghese government to meet with me here, in Berlin, so that we may establish common ground before a storm brews that we may not be able to weather. I hope to see representatives of these nations soon, so that we each may be able to say Salve, Servus and Zdravo to a new age of understanding in Europe." "Heinrich von Brentano, the Bavarian Foreign Minister, will attend this meeting." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Centurius Posted July 30, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 30, 2009 began to play on CEU news stations and on stations all around Prussia. The shield of the proud Prussian people appeared on the screen and the anthem tapered off to Bundeskanzler Tanzband at the Kanzleramt in Berlin. "People of Prussia, of Europe, and the World...I speak to you from Berlin, the heart of Europe and the Legislative Capital of Prussia. I speak to you, as a concerned man. Recently, due to the events occurring in Northern Italy, nations of Europe are again drawing lines and gearing for battle....something that our continent does not need. We, together as Europeans, are the most affluent and educated in the world, there is no reason for us to squabble over petty differences and the internal affairs of other nations. Be it known, if conflict begins, the nation of Prussia shall be in a state of tentative neutrality and will act accordingly to the actions of the belligerents. Although Prussia understands the plight of each viewpoint in the situation, we feel that a middle ground must be met between all parties involved in this impending crisis. That is why I wish to call diplomats from Hr̀vātskā, Bayern, and the Borghese government to meet with me here, in Berlin, so that we may establish common ground before a storm brews that we may not be able to weather. I hope to see representatives of these nations soon, so that we each may be able to say Salve, Servus and Zdravo to a new age of understanding in Europe." A Croat diplomat will attend however we request South Italy and Eukzadi be invited too due to their direct influence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynneth Posted July 30, 2009 Report Share Posted July 30, 2009 *Slightly classified* Regardless of meetings et all, the Bavarian Navy moved. Each Bavarian ship would find a corresponding croatian ship and move less than one hundred meters besides it. If the croatian ship was inert, the bavarian ship would do the same. If the croatian ship changed course, so would the bavarian ship. This all was aimed to reduce Croatia's capability of keeping the blockade up, bogging almost their entire navy down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Centurius Posted July 30, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 30, 2009 The Croatian ships following executive order put down their automated Defenses and just maintained their course and procedures stopping foreign ships. **Classified Message to Allied Nations** Crazy Bavarians blocking our ships, all ships without a Bavarian stalker are to go on as usual. Those without will do the same making sure they do not engage the Bavarian ships. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynneth Posted July 30, 2009 Report Share Posted July 30, 2009 *Slightly classified* The bavarian ships would simply 'stalk' the strongest and fastest of the croatian fleet, moving besides them and interrupting any attempt to board other vessels. As likely less than ten ships - four of them croatian - would now be able to actually keep the blockade up, its efficiency would be rapidly lowered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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