Maelstrom Vortex Posted June 12, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 12, 2009 We're not as concerned about Mongolia. Does Yamato have an interest in the region in addition to the PRC? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sumeragi Posted June 12, 2009 Report Share Posted June 12, 2009 Yes, we do have an interst in Mongolia, mainly for cultural and ethnic reason. If the Dragon Empire is not intersted in Mongolia, we would like to discuss what to do about it with PRC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maelstrom Vortex Posted June 12, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 12, 2009 "We leave that discussion to you and the PRC, though as the executors of the protectorate we will provide oversight here until an agreement is made on Mongolia's future." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Keshav IV Posted June 12, 2009 Report Share Posted June 12, 2009 "We maintain our request for Shandong, we have to have port as we wish to trade with other countries with our own regulations. That said the NPR can continue fortifying the Bohai except up till Shandong, we shall work on a map from where we will keep our military ships, keep in mind we wont be looking for war at all. The provinces which we want are Shandong with Anhui which we currently have, we do not want anything else infact. Just these two provinces." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maelstrom Vortex Posted June 12, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 12, 2009 (edited) The Chairman pondered, "The most we can possibly allow for Shandong is joint administration. I'll ask the NPR delegation their thoughts on this. We understand you're only asking two provinces and if NPR weren't already so significantly invested there it'd be an easy decision." "You need to talk with Yamato if you wish to claim more of the internal regions to the protectorate. If you have no claims there then we will discuss with them apportioning part of Mongolia to them and also begin talks with the Hansa in more detail also. We cannot entirely give you Shandong, that is already a certainty although joint administration is a possibility. Do you have any other areas of interest?" Edited June 12, 2009 by Maelstrom Vortex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Keshav IV Posted June 12, 2009 Report Share Posted June 12, 2009 "We don't want anything else, just complete control over Shandong, we will not let our sovereignty be taken just so that another country can continue its military fortifications, full control of shandong is all we want, the rest of China we don't care about." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maelstrom Vortex Posted June 12, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 12, 2009 (edited) "Then your demand is denied. It is in-appropriate for a new nation to not take what is offered them and to make demands. You initially started out asking for only for an area for your nation to reside in, now you are asking for a specific domain." "We want to give you a homeland. It cannot be Shandong. The people there are contently governed by NPR who has had an ongoing and active presence there even as acknowledged by yourself." Edited June 12, 2009 by Maelstrom Vortex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king of cochin Posted June 12, 2009 Report Share Posted June 12, 2009 Kingdom of Cochin has an interest in the fate of Mongolia. We currently own the south west provinces of mongolia. We suggest maintain the mongolian region as a Cochin Protectorate until new nations come seeking land. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maelstrom Vortex Posted June 12, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 12, 2009 (edited) "We would like Yamato to clarify it's desires with the Mongolian region to see how they propose to divide the area." "We can help PRC build a viable port in their region if that's part of their concern. But the people of Shandong dont' seem to approve of a change of government that involves the PRC at this time, they are interested in working more closely with those who have a long term, invested interest in the region and who hasn't abandoned them or has any desire to abandon them. In this case, it is the NPR." Edited June 12, 2009 by Maelstrom Vortex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Keshav IV Posted June 12, 2009 Report Share Posted June 12, 2009 "Do you remember who controlled Shandong before the it became a protectorate? We did, it was one of biggest provinces, we are asking for nothing else except Shandong, we wish for nothing else at all." *Private* The diplomat rubbished that report as nothing more then propaganda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maelstrom Vortex Posted June 12, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 12, 2009 "Perhaps we should consider partitioning Shandong instead of looking at it as a whole since two parties have such a steadfast and immovable interest in the province?" Maelstrom rubbed his eyes. This wasn't his argument, but it was better for the Empire that he handled it. He was frustrated, tired, but this was necessary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maelstrom Vortex Posted June 12, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 12, 2009 (edited) The Dragonisians watched the PRC lay out another proposal regarding Shandong, on a district basis: The new requests: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dongying http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zibo http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jinan http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linyi The proposal was named the "Bohia Corridor" It was meant to address the security concerns of the NPR while providing the PRC a direct link to the Bohai where it can participate co-operatively with the region in shipping, trade, and the petrol Industry. Maelstrom looked over at the NPR representative, hoping this made everyone happy. In the proposal, NPR gets the remainder of Shandong to alleviate its security concerns. Jinan would become the new capitol for the PRC and the PRC would get the province of Anhui. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anhui These districts and this province would constitute all of PRC's desired claims to the protectorate region. Optionally, if the NPR would allow it.. PRC would LIKE to have, but does not feel a need for: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jining,_Shandong Edited June 12, 2009 by Maelstrom Vortex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Keshav IV Posted June 12, 2009 Report Share Posted June 12, 2009 "This is perfect Chairman Vortex, we have no need for the rest of the districts which of course NPR can take without a problem from us." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawk11 Posted June 12, 2009 Report Share Posted June 12, 2009 (edited) If the PRC is retaining Anhui, the Elective Dictatorship of Palintine refuses to leave this conference without some piece of formal relations between us. Edited June 12, 2009 by hawk_11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maelstrom Vortex Posted June 12, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 12, 2009 I definitely think it wise for neighbors to have relations, but I will let the two of you work on that.. *chuckles* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Keshav IV Posted June 12, 2009 Report Share Posted June 12, 2009 "Let us have a seperate meeting later in another location after this conference. Just a little one on one if its accpetable." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawk11 Posted June 12, 2009 Report Share Posted June 12, 2009 "This is acceptable." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comrade nikonov Posted June 12, 2009 Report Share Posted June 12, 2009 (edited) We will retain Jining as well as 90% of the foreign investment in that area is from NPR state owned entities. EDIT: Also, any PRC fleet movements in the Bohai are to be monitored as our EEZ will be restricted to civilian ships. If you require transit through the Bohai you must gain my approval before any accidents happen. Edited June 12, 2009 by comrade nikonov Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawk11 Posted June 12, 2009 Report Share Posted June 12, 2009 OOC: I'm starting to hate EEZs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maelstrom Vortex Posted June 12, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 12, 2009 (edited) "I doubt that will be a concern. It seems we may actually have finally worked out an agreement for the zone. If all parties would sign here then we'll finalize this." The following Districts of the Shandong Province are accorded to the People's Republic of China without dispute:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dongying http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zibo http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jinan http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linyi The following Province is accorded to the People's Republic of China without dispute. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anhui Any ships entering or leaving the Bohai from the corridor should notify the NPR defense command to make sure there are no accidental activations of the regional defense grid. We think it would be best the boats in fact be outfitted with transmitters to automatically indicate their presence. The remainder of the Shandong protectorate is granted to NPR without dispute by the Dragon Empire or the PRC from the Dragon Empire's protectorate. NPR will maintain all sunken cost investments in the region, but will pay taxes to the PRC in the districts where PRC has the sovereign authority to tax on the profits from those investments at a rate equal to domestic operations. Premier RorschachPeople's Republic of China Premier Wen Jiabao NPR Maelstrom Vortex Triumvirate Adviser of the Dragon Empire To finalize this, we require the signatures of the NPR state governor, the PRC presiding head of State, and myself. I will sign when I see the others have also. ooc: I've hated EEZ's a very long time. Edited June 12, 2009 by Maelstrom Vortex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Keshav IV Posted June 12, 2009 Report Share Posted June 12, 2009 (edited) "We wonder why we have to notify NPR when our military moves, civillian ships we shall notify, military shall have beacons for the time being. You do not own the Bohai Sea over a sovereign nation, you are not above us but our equals, remember that. We shall also keep taxes at the usual rate of 50% for all companies foreign or not and they must have at least 75% of the workers from PRC. Apart from that here is our signatures- Premier Rorschach." Edited June 12, 2009 by Sir Keshav IV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maelstrom Vortex Posted June 12, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 12, 2009 While we're at it, can anyone get this drafted as a map? Mongolia is still open, all of it. Only the specified provinces are signed over so there's still much to be discussed with other powers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comrade nikonov Posted June 12, 2009 Report Share Posted June 12, 2009 "We wonder why we have to notify NPR when our military moves, civillian ships we shall notify, military shall have beacons for the time being. You do not own the Bohai Sea over a sovereign nation, you are not above us but our equals, remember that. We shall also keep taxes at the usual rate of 50% for all companies foreign or not and they must have at least 75% of the workers from PRC. Apart from that here is our signatures- Premier Rorschach." Keep in mind the Northeast People's Republic owns the Bohai Sea. Yes. All of it. Its our territorial waters and the central key to our nation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Keshav IV Posted June 12, 2009 Report Share Posted June 12, 2009 "Keep in mind we now own a part of it as well, your jurdistiction does not cover it as we are a sovereign entity." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maelstrom Vortex Posted June 12, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 12, 2009 (edited) "The PRC will be accorded a sea-lane to the pacific through the Bohai and they do have a naval claim that extends out from their shoreline. It's only fair and equitable. You guys should seriously work together more, it'd make things come out better for you both. Are you going to sign or not NPR?" Edited June 12, 2009 by Maelstrom Vortex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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