Enimecnegnev Posted March 15, 2009 Report Share Posted March 15, 2009 I don't know if this has been asked in the past or not, but I got what I think is a legitmate question. Does the Federal Aid Commission only increase the amount of cash a nation can send or does it apply to tech and soldiers as well? I know both the sending nation and the receiving nation have to have the FAC for it to matter. Can someone clear this up for me? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iMatt Posted March 15, 2009 Report Share Posted March 15, 2009 just the money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redoran Posted March 17, 2009 Report Share Posted March 17, 2009 I'm pretty sure it affects tech too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Shepard Posted March 17, 2009 Report Share Posted March 17, 2009 Federal Aid Commission - $25,000,000 - Raises the cap on foreign money aid +50% provided that the foreign aid recipient also has a Federal Aid Commission wonder. It's just the money... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minilla Island Posted April 1, 2009 Report Share Posted April 1, 2009 Just money PROVIDED the recipient ALSO has a Federal Aid Commission. So, unless you are an old and fat nation, this wonder is useless to you. Since only about 30+ nations have it, it is COMPLETELY a waste of money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enderland Posted April 1, 2009 Report Share Posted April 1, 2009 But Matt Miller of Bubbler Nation bought it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jer Posted April 2, 2009 Report Share Posted April 2, 2009 Matt Miller's nation is old and fat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecoli73 Posted April 2, 2009 Report Share Posted April 2, 2009 Just money PROVIDED the recipient ALSO has a Federal Aid Commission. So, unless you are an old and fat nation, this wonder is useless to you. Since only about 30+ nations have it, it is COMPLETELY a waste of money. only reason to have it is when it is the last thing you have to buy(maybe before fallout thing) in hopes that admin is going to change it into something different Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fighter26 Posted April 3, 2009 Report Share Posted April 3, 2009 It truly is a shame that it does not cover tech Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor Tolkien Posted April 9, 2009 Report Share Posted April 9, 2009 It's truly a shame that it's completely useless. If it didn't require TWO nations to have it, instead of just the sendee, or provided some sort of economic benefit, then MAYBE you might buy it as something other then the last/second to last wonder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurney Halleck Posted April 13, 2009 Report Share Posted April 13, 2009 Correct. It would be a sought after wonder if you could send out $4.5m to anyone. 4.5/150 tech deals and aiding your small alliance mates would be nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Paul Posted April 16, 2009 Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 I'll be buying this wonder soon because there are only a few left for me. Is there a way to search for nations that have it so I can find a tech seller or two? IIRC there was at least one seller who bought it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drai Posted April 18, 2009 Report Share Posted April 18, 2009 Yeah, I used to think it was tech and soldiers too, then I was told otherwise. Would have probably resulted in alliances who constantly feed their top nation(s) tech to have 6 small nations buy an FAC and then feed the top nation 75 tech at a time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurney Halleck Posted April 18, 2009 Report Share Posted April 18, 2009 I'll be buying this wonder soon because there are only a few left for me. Is there a way to search for nations that have it so I can find a tech seller or two? IIRC there was at least one seller who bought it. My opinion would be that you are wasting your money. I'd rather take the $25 million and add to my warchest. Heck, buying $25 million of extra tech would be better, IMO (yes, I know it's crazy expensive to buy your own tech, but at least you'd get some sort of ROI). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enderland Posted April 18, 2009 Report Share Posted April 18, 2009 I'd buy it in the hopes it gets fixed later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedestro Posted April 18, 2009 Report Share Posted April 18, 2009 I'd buy it in the hopes it gets fixed later. Yeah pretty much Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Paul Posted April 19, 2009 Report Share Posted April 19, 2009 I'd buy it in the hopes it gets fixed later. That's the plan and the hope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurney Halleck Posted April 19, 2009 Report Share Posted April 19, 2009 Once you run outta wonders minus FAC, you can buy it when/if it's fixed. Because you've run out of wonders, and your wonder clock will have stopped ticking, you can buy it immediately. No need to tie up cash in the hope that it is fixed eventually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jer Posted April 19, 2009 Report Share Posted April 19, 2009 It's only $25m. If you're a nation who's run out of wonders that is hardly anything, and it'll do no harm to get it out of the way in anticipation of some new wonders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurney Halleck Posted April 19, 2009 Report Share Posted April 19, 2009 (edited) The difference is that if you opt for the batch of tech or infra or the expanded warchest, you get value. With the FAC, you get nothing at present. I will concede the point that $25 million isn't alot of money for a large nation. It buys a small batch of tech when purchased by the nation owner directly, a small amount of infra, or adds a small amount of cash to the warchest - the other option is to buy a useless wonder in hopes that the wonder is fixed eventually. A wonder that (if it is fixed) can be purchased immediately if you've ran out of other wonders to buy. In the scope of things, $25 million isn't worth arguing over. It would be <2% of my surplus (and would be much less for many others in TOP). To paraphrase on old saying, though: $25 million here, $25 million there and pretty soon you're talking real money. Edit: grammar. Edited April 20, 2009 by AAlumni Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stylesjl Posted April 23, 2009 Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 The only real uses that I can see for it are in these circumstances -A large nation buys one, and a small nation buys one, it is then used to help boost the small nation up further. Although this seems rather weak as the small nation is probably better off getting another wonder with it's own income -A large nation is knocked down to near or at Zero Infrastructure and a large, intact nation can then funnel extra cash to boost the weakened nation back up Either way I would get it when I run out of wonders to buy, but I doubt it will ever really be necessary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qaianna Posted April 24, 2009 Report Share Posted April 24, 2009 From everything here, I actually would advise holding off if it's the last wonder available to you. Gives you some flexibility, especially if you buy it on day 1, and day 2 Admin rolls out a sweet new wonder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedestro Posted April 24, 2009 Report Share Posted April 24, 2009 The only real uses that I can see for it are in these circumstances-A large nation buys one, and a small nation buys one, it is then used to help boost the small nation up further. Although this seems rather weak as the small nation is probably better off getting another wonder with it's own income -A large nation is knocked down to near or at Zero Infrastructure and a large, intact nation can then funnel extra cash to boost the weakened nation back up Either way I would get it when I run out of wonders to buy, but I doubt it will ever really be necessary But you see a small nation would never be able to afford the wonder in the first place. Unless 30 million was funneled in just to buy the wonder, and even then it would be a very poor investment. Tbh, I only ever see it useful in some hypothetical post-apocalytpic CN days when all us big nations are beat down to the ground and some extra money would be slightly more useful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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