Jack Shepard

[quote name='Calderone' timestamp='1328159853' post='2913009'] What were you thinking Umbrella? Erm, I mean congrats both of you, of course. Another outstanding comic from Jack too btw. [/quote] Thanks Cal... Probably the last one I'll ever have time to make for BN as RL takes a firmer grip on my nether regions Walking away from Umbrella was perhaps the biggest regret from my time at the helm of BN, so it feels great to have this finally official again.

[center][size="5"][b]Official BN Announcement[/b][/size] [img]http://images.wikia.com/cybernations/images/8/8a/Ninjaflag.gif[/img] [img]http://www.pinkair.com/images/2007/05/07/eyes__jackpilot.jpg[/img] Most of you don't know me, even if you know of the alliance I founded, the Basketball Ninjas. Truth be told I like it that way. For 3 and a half years now, I've quietly led a group of dedicated, disciplined ninjas from the humble beginnings into something quite special. During that time I've watched as alliance after alliance, leader after leader, gradually succumbed to the great RL menace, and I always figured it would never happen to me. Unfortunately, I was wrong. Due to RL pressures, I have had to step down as leader of the Basketball Ninjas, and our days as a one man dictatorship are now over. Instead, we have elected a Triumvirate of leadership, and I am here to announce to you today, that they are [b]Schad[/b], [b]J Bibbs[/b], and [b]bcortell[/b]. I expect the transition to be quite seamless, I will still be an active member of our ministry, but if anything, this will help take BN to the next level without my overly cautious approach stifling or stunting us any longer. BN was an alliance born from the ashes of the LoFN war, so my leadership reign began by being defeated by GOD, and it has ended after defeating them. I never planned it that way, but it does bookend my run quite nicely. I have made some quality friends in my journey, and I thank those for their support for myself and BN over the years. To my comrades in BN, I'd just like to say once again how proud I am of all of you, and how lucky I felt to have gathered you all as members. Your dedication & discipline has made this long journey worthwhile and I thank you for that. [img]http://profile.ak.fbcdn.net/hprofile-ak-snc4/27528_124574464230752_4945_n.jpg[/img][/center]

[center][size="5"]BN/NEAT/SC Joint announcement[/size] [img]http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110204054908/cybernations/images/thumb/8/8a/Ninjaflag.gif/250px-Ninjaflag.gif[/img][img]http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20091027105003/cybernations/images/thumb/3/3a/Neatbannersmgb4.jpg/150px-Neatbannersmgb4.jpg[/img][img]http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100618121950/cybernations/images/thumb/7/75/Sc_flag.png/220px-Sc_flag.png[/img][/center] Since we have been accused of [url=http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=107402]Disgraceful War Tactics[/url] and [url=http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=107435]our first attempt at this didn't go over so well[/url], it is high time we... err... again tried to give the opportunity to GOD nations who wished to surrender to the combined forces of BN/NEAT/SC. Nations should note that if they are engaged with MJ nations as well as those from BN/SC/NEAT, they should notify their MJ opponents that they are surrendering to this group instead because we are more cuddly. [b]The BN/SC/NEAT Individual Surrender terms are as follows:[/b] 1. Make a post [url=http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=213]Here[/url] to acknowledge that you surrender, and message your opponents that you have done this. 2. Inside the message to your opponents, you must also tell them a quick joke, to show that you possess a sense of humour. 3. Change your Alliance Affiliation to '[url=http://cybernations.wikia.com/wiki/LoFN_War]LoFN POW[/url]' 4. Decomission all nuclear weapons, navy vessels, guerrilla camps, barracks and aircraft 5. Carry no more than 29% defending troops (should have settled for 30%). 6. Not send or receive any foreign aid 7. Remain in the LoFN POW Alliance Affiliation 8. Not declare war on any party no matter the Alliance Affiliation 9. Maintain all of the above until the conclusion of the conflict Violation of these terms may result in resumption of attacks. The PF bloc, along with SC and NEAT, will endeavour to protect the LoFN POW AA for the duration of the conflict.

[quote name='MasterChief' timestamp='1323659130' post='2874558'] Conversation of this to myself and BN is over in our given opinion, we have agreed that I jumped the gun in posting this topic instead of bringing it up to their government. No more is to argue about, AND I so apologize for myself in behalf of Camaroland and the grievance I have given BN. [/quote] Due in no small part to this thread, we have now published [url=http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=107435]individual surrender terms[/url] if you are still interested in getting peace.

[center][size="5"]BN/NEAT/SC Joint announcement[/size][/center] [center][img]http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110204054908/cybernations/images/thumb/8/8a/Ninjaflag.gif/250px-Ninjaflag.gif[/img][img]http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20091027105003/cybernations/images/thumb/3/3a/Neatbannersmgb4.jpg/150px-Neatbannersmgb4.jpg[/img][img]http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100618121950/cybernations/images/thumb/7/75/Sc_flag.png/220px-Sc_flag.png[/img][/center] Since we have been accused of [url=http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=107402]Disgraceful War Tactics[/url], it is high time we gave the opportunity to GoD nations who wished to surrender to the combined forces of BN/NEAT/SC. Nations should note that if they are engaged with MJ nations as well as those from BN/SC/NEAT, they should notify their MJ opponents that they are surrendering to this group instead because we are more cuddly. [b]The BN/SC/NEAT Individual Surrender terms are as follows:[/b] 1. Make a post [url=http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=213]Here[/url] to acknowledge that you surrender, and message your opponents that you have done this. 2. Change your Alliance Affiliation to 'Prisoner of Azkaban' 3. Decomission all nuclear weapons, navy vessels, guerrilla camps, barracks and aircraft 4. Carry no more than 30% defending troops 5. Not send or receive any foreign aid 6. Remain in the Prisoner of Azkaban Alliance Affiliation 7. Not declare war on any party no matter the Alliance Affiliation 8. Maintain all of the above until the conclusion of the conflict Violation of these terms may result in resumption of attacks. The PF bloc, along with SC and NEAT, will endeavour to protect the Prisioner of Azkaban AA for the duration of the conflict.

[quote name='TheDoctor' timestamp='1323648803' post='2874399'] I guess my issue here is trying to figure out how a misunderstanding like that could happen. Where did he get the idea that he should be asking for peace when you were not yet accepting surrender? [/quote] This is his first real alliance war. The only time he has ever fought before was against tech raiders, and in those scenarios he always aimed for the tech raiders to send peace to the nations they were raiding. So my guess is old habits dying hard, coupled with not paying attention to politics of CN.

[quote name='TheDoctor' timestamp='1323645957' post='2874350'] Please tell me how that message was intended then. I would like to be enlightened as to how a message like that could be sent if it was not due to gross incompetence or nefarious intent. [/quote] [quote]To: MasterChief From: cambenito Date: 12/10/2011 2:43:42 AM Subject: RE: Battle Report Message: send peace or be attacked ,up to you,im following orders [b]by attacking you right now[/b][/quote] The bold is how the message was intended to be interpreted. His asking for peace, I have mentioned several times, was a simple misunderstanding which has been corrected.

[quote name='TheDoctor' timestamp='1323643587' post='2874321'] "send peace or be attacked ,up to you,im following orders" That means his orders are to attack unless the OP sends peace. Now I suppose it is possible that he just has poor communication skills and didn't say what he meant in which case he's not shady just stupid. I will admit I tend to give people too much credit in situations like this and assume they actually know what they are saying. [/quote] English is not cam's first language, someone who is bilingual who perhaps does not communicate clearly in all languages does not make them stupid, and you calling them that just shows your own ignorance. You have interpreted his message how you wanted to interpret it, not how it was intended.

[quote name='TheDoctor' timestamp='1323641391' post='2874286'] From what I know I am quite sure that there was a time where those using this type of "tactic" would have been considered scum. [/quote] I actually agree with this, which is why no-one in BN is authorised to use this, or any other kind of 'underhanded tactic', I have already explained what happened here.

[quote name='MasterChief' timestamp='1323602607' post='2873778'] So he lied, and continued his attacks. So it makes what he did right you say? Very convenient that you are at winning odds and will not allow someone a chance to re cooperate and have a fair and fun war, instead petty tactics is what is in control of your political system huh? [/quote] I told you, he didn't lie. I don't know why he asked you to send peace. He told us he had a peace offer and asked if he could accept it. I told him no, we are not accepting peace at this time, continue your attacks. It's not rocket science.

He didn't lie, he was misinformed. We are not accepting peace at this time, and we passed that on to him, and asked him to continue his attacks.

I wasn't sure I'd see the day that LoFN rode together again, and against GoD no less. If you try and exterminate something, you best make sure you kill it. o/ to my longest friends, SC & NEAT

Finally official. o/ ASG

Up to 96% today (47/49) I know which are the two nations who haven't logged in too.

We're 94%... But I guess we are only #63 by score so we don't count...Ah well...