New Frontier Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 I started my first nation in 2007, since then, yes, a lot has changed. Gee, you're so old! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northrend Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 To be fair, this isn't much of a response. Never said it was, so I tend to agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Boris Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 There are currently 29,433 nations on Planet Bob. The top 200 alliances account for 20,874 of that total.There is still space out there to go have fun. Go have it. Hell, if you can organize some of those in that space and make an alliance worth something, you can still aspire to greatness. That is pretty much the way it has always been, NPO or no NPO. Stop whining, do something. Simply doing something is not enough. Doing something out of hatred of another group in CN rarely ends particularly well. Alliances hell bent on going after others typically have crap growth and poor organization. If people really want to bring about any 'change', the only real way to do that is to make their own change for their own benefit, rather than for someone else's detriment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northrend Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 Simply doing something is not enough. Doing something out of hatred of another group in CN rarely ends particularly well. Alliances hell bent on going after others typically have crap growth and poor organization. If people really want to bring about any 'change', the only real way to do that is to make their own change for their own benefit, rather than for someone else's detriment. I for one do not "hate" the New Pacific Order. I admire a lot of things they can do for people. they are immensely organized and have a great, talented player community. However, it is unfortunate that a select few have ruined that experience for many others, by acting generally uncouth, rude, crass and disrespectful to nearly any and all of their opponents and fellow players that disagree with them. They seem to think that because they are top dog, they can do as they please. This is most unfortunate, as if they acted with some decency, and respect, they might find that their power would increase, as well as their image outside their own bloc. Nobody is seeking the destruction of the NPO. We merely wish for it to be reformed into a more pleasant, respectful and credible organization, without the totalitarian trappings of ambitious and power hungry individuals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Frontier Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 I for one do not "hate" the New Pacific Order. I admire a lot of things they can do for people. they are immensely organized and have a great, talented player community. However, it is unfortunate that a select few have ruined that experience for many others, by acting generally uncouth, rude, crass and disrespectful to nearly any and all of their opponents and fellow players that disagree with them. They seem to think that because they are top dog, they can do as they please. This is most unfortunate, as if they acted with some decency, and respect, they might find that their power would increase, as well as their image outside their own bloc.Nobody is seeking the destruction of the NPO. We merely wish for it to be reformed into a more pleasant, respectful and credible organization, without the totalitarian trappings of ambitious and power hungry individuals. "We hate NPO for changing alliances with their Viceroys and running the game. So instead, we want to run the game and change NPO to how we want them to be." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azaghul Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 (edited) CN isn't what it was when my first nation was around, and I blame that on the 'order' of things.I know many here share the same feelings as I do, but for the sake of the citizens of your nation, you fall into line. Good luck to all but the 'order'. Was this worthy of its own topic? Ah, I was expecting an ideological counter to my essay. Didn't think it would arrive this quickly. This is actually very true, but not for the reasons you intend. Edited February 16, 2009 by Azaghul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northrend Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 "We hate NPO for changing alliances with their Viceroys and running the game. So instead, we want to run the game and change NPO to how we want them to be." Where did you get that from? I'd like to see some source on that, or is it just you being sarcastic? Even then, this does not mean we hate the NPO and seek their destruction. One can enjoy the base membership in an alliance but hate what the leadership has turned the alliance into. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graves Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 This is ridiculous. Since the beginning there has been some massive bloc or another on BOB exerting it's will over the game. yeah you just lost it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yankees Empire Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 This is ridiculous. Since the beginning there has been some massive bloc or another on BOB exerting it's will over the game.yeah you just lost it I am not amused Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randleman Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 Who are you? And why do we care that you're leaving? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corinan Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 However, it is unfortunate that a select few have ruined that experience for many others, by acting generally uncouth, rude, crass and disrespectful to nearly any and all of their opponents and fellow players that disagree with them. They seem to think that because they are top dog, they can do as they please. I aim to please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meterman Posted February 17, 2009 Report Share Posted February 17, 2009 Forget your little tantrum...... Where is the 100 tech you owe me? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northrend Posted February 17, 2009 Report Share Posted February 17, 2009 Forget your little tantrum......Where is the 100 tech you owe me? Vox Populi eated it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DracosLover Posted February 17, 2009 Report Share Posted February 17, 2009 you Brooks = epic fail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caliph Posted February 17, 2009 Report Share Posted February 17, 2009 There are currently 29,433 nations on Planet Bob. The top 200 alliances account for 20,874 of that total.There is still space out there to go have fun. Go have it. Hell, if you can organize some of those in that space and make an alliance worth something, you can still aspire to greatness. That is pretty much the way it has always been, NPO or no NPO. Stop whining, do something. This man has it right. Contrary to what some believe, the NPO is not about crushing everyone. They are not the boogeymen some make them out to be. Still plenty of room to have fun without joining the NPO, and without warring with the NPO. There are plenty of small alliances out there to have fun, and even if you don't want to join a small alliance, have a go at creating one yourself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meterman Posted February 17, 2009 Report Share Posted February 17, 2009 Vox Populi eated it. I understand now. This kind of attitude must be what makes Vox so much better than Pacifica. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heyman Posted February 17, 2009 Report Share Posted February 17, 2009 I started my first nation in 2007, since then, yes, a lot has changed. Congratulations on your achievement, young one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generalissimo Posted February 17, 2009 Report Share Posted February 17, 2009 There is no one to tell you the party line when order does not exist. !!!Break free from the shackles of alliance affiliation!!!! Join the Unaligned!!! In the outmost periphery alliance politics are irrelevant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Electron Sponge Posted February 17, 2009 Report Share Posted February 17, 2009 I understand now. This kind of attitude must be what makes Vox so much better than Pacifica. Pretty much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incitatus Posted February 17, 2009 Report Share Posted February 17, 2009 I started my first nation in 2007, since then, yes, a lot has changed. Yes things have changed since '07. Things also changed from '06 to '07. Point is, things are always changing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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