Maelstrom Vortex Posted July 25, 2012 Report Share Posted July 25, 2012 [quote name='Lynneth' timestamp='1343183242' post='3014671'] You know. We could get rid of the map again. Erryone does their own thing and all that. [/quote] I could actually get behind that idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lestari Posted July 25, 2012 Report Share Posted July 25, 2012 Keep pre-planning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yawoo Posted July 25, 2012 Report Share Posted July 25, 2012 [quote name='Kankou' timestamp='1343182154' post='3014659'] There are different forces of civility. Forcing war on a person is no different from rape, especially with the amount of joke wars which would put blushes into even the most tyrantical dictators and monarchies in RL history, and this form of forced wars is not a civil thing to do. Furthermore, by having the attackers put more effort into why and how the attack will come while giving the defenders the time to mentally prepare, it will raise the quality of war. If one side is being stubborn, there is always the waiver card to use. Right now the anti-preplanning crowd acts as if there is no such thing, although the only time it has been nearly used is when Triyun threatened to push through the waiver after Malatose and Centurius already stacked the odds 5-to-1 and yet wanted even more and blamed me for not being cooperative. I still kept all the logs and PM convos from that particular incident. [/quote] Yeah, let's go ahead and never again compare rape and CNRP again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PresidentDavid Posted July 25, 2012 Report Share Posted July 25, 2012 (edited) [quote name='Yawoo' timestamp='1343183685' post='3014677'] Yeah, let's go ahead and never again compare rape and CNRP again. [/quote] I was comparing it to Forced-Wars. And you are missing the concept of what I said or you are refusing to acknowledge it - regardless forced wars are in no way good for any member of the community who has to endure them. In order for both parties to have fun while playing the game, they need to agree to take certain actions such as smaller things like merging or fatal things like war. Edited July 25, 2012 by PresidentDavid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kankou Posted July 25, 2012 Report Share Posted July 25, 2012 I am going to continue doing so. There is no real difference here in CNRP by now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lestari Posted July 25, 2012 Report Share Posted July 25, 2012 [quote name='Kankou' timestamp='1343184010' post='3014681'] I am going to continue doing so. There is no real difference here in CNRP by now. [/quote] I don't think you realise what rape is and how incredibly wrong it is to say CNRP is anything remotely like rape. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PresidentDavid Posted July 25, 2012 Report Share Posted July 25, 2012 [quote name='dotCom' timestamp='1343184420' post='3014684'] I don't think you realise what rape is and how incredibly wrong it is to say CNRP is anything remotely like rape. [/quote] Now you're just trying to change the subject. And again I wasn't comparing it to CNRP. Relate to the original topic at hand instead of trying to change the conversation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtleknifewielder Posted July 25, 2012 Report Share Posted July 25, 2012 (edited) [quote name='dotCom' timestamp='1343184420' post='3014684'] I don't think you realise what rape is and how incredibly wrong it is to say CNRP is anything remotely like rape. [/quote]Whoah, whoah, no one's saying the whole game is like that. Just the aspect of forced war. Which is the topic of discussion. Edited July 25, 2012 by Subtleknifewielder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lestari Posted July 25, 2012 Report Share Posted July 25, 2012 [quote name='PresidentDavid' timestamp='1343184660' post='3014690'] Now you're just trying to change the subject. And again I wasn't comparing it to CNRP. Relate to the original topic at hand instead of trying to change the conversation. [/quote] ...you do realise we were quoting Kankou there, right? Neither Yawoo nor I were referring to you. @Subtle: She said CNRP, not just forced war, has become no different from rape. I think that's a load of !@#$%^&*, said as much, that's all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kankou Posted July 25, 2012 Report Share Posted July 25, 2012 As in "there is no difference between forced war and rape" in CNRP by now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markus Wilding Posted July 25, 2012 Report Share Posted July 25, 2012 The fact hat you dare to compare rape to unplanned wars in CNRP disgusts me and quite frankly, whatever point you had has lost all credibility as a result. You shouldn't be comparing rape to [i][b]anything,[/b][/i] let alone a forum-based nation simulator. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kankou Posted July 25, 2012 Report Share Posted July 25, 2012 Be free to think so. Given what I've been through, I would have to say I know more about rape and forced war than the rest of CNRP put together and then some. If such a concept disgusts you, so be it. I don't mince words for the sake of mincing words. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PresidentDavid Posted July 25, 2012 Report Share Posted July 25, 2012 [quote name='Markus Wilding' timestamp='1343185343' post='3014703'] The fact hat you dare to compare rape to unplanned wars in CNRP disgusts me and quite frankly, whatever point you had has lost all credibility as a result. You shouldn't be comparing rape to [i][b]anything,[/b][/i] let alone a forum-based nation simulator. [/quote] Oh give me a break. We all know the inexplicable evil of what rape is - stop trying to demonize her or us because a simple comparison was made. Christ y'all can blow things out of proportion. I agree that we should either take away the map completely or we should make war to be done on a "willing" basis. Because if you are forced to comply with someone else and they have entertainment at the expense of you, your time, your RP, and destroying what you had created thus far then that simply isn't right or fun for the other player. There are a group of people with immense power in CNRP who have time and time again attacked and destroyed players who were sometimes innocent of any IC crime. There are those like Lyn or JED who have a large troop count but simply do not attack others for the fun of (in what a sense is) knocking over the tower of blocks that they built. I fail to see why this can not be understood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isaac MatthewII Posted July 25, 2012 Report Share Posted July 25, 2012 Lol, he got mad over a one lined comparison. Thats quite obviously an attempt at dehumanizing her argument, debate class day one tomfoolery. It is an acceptable comparison, get over it, its not like she sat there and described the $#%^ to the detail on every aspect how it is near to rape. The fact is war in CNRP shouldn't be forced at all for many reasons, the pre plan rule makes it more civil. It gives someone time to mentally prepare for the coming curbstomp/engagement. (usually curbstomp) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maelstrom Vortex Posted July 25, 2012 Report Share Posted July 25, 2012 (edited) Why not make a new standard? All inter-player interactions must be willful and consensual. The moment this breaks down rp halts and reverts. The exception being when the players clarify in advance they are willing to accept unforeseen events within a set of parameters in which case the players are allowed to use a broader range of rp such as during a war and with surprise attacks or unexpected combat tactics. The only one to moan about my surprises and not roll with it so far has been Triyun. I have conducted wars on this Standard. If King Kevz were still around he'd be be able to testify that such as when I occupied Cambodia. Hell, I even took a pencil to the eye of a main story-arc character. I have frequently worked with other players during wars for and against my favor. The moment that it breaks down, I have no reason to continue participation and neither do they. In fact it's going to be a personal policy going forward that any person I interact with will have the right to "nerf" any post they desire without requesting a GM's approval. They only need to inform me, inform me why, and propose a suggested replacement post. If they attempt to point to the rules before discussing it with me, they will lose everything they have created with me thus far. Edited July 25, 2012 by Maelstrom Vortex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triyun Posted July 25, 2012 Report Share Posted July 25, 2012 So Zoot, can we make a poll about how much we all hate me? Seriously this is getting damn stupid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kankou Posted July 25, 2012 Report Share Posted July 25, 2012 This THREAD is stupid. Didn't we have this to two months ago? Why do we have this discussion when there had been no complaints? Just because a GM is against preplanning? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maelstrom Vortex Posted July 25, 2012 Report Share Posted July 25, 2012 (edited) I must admit, I really do wonder what prompted Zoot to bring this up. Triyun: You are not worthy of my hate, only my exasperation. But I suppose you could make a poll for that. There is only one entity in all of space/time that is worthy of my hate and some people say it doesn't exist. Edited July 25, 2012 by Maelstrom Vortex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isaac MatthewII Posted July 25, 2012 Report Share Posted July 25, 2012 [quote name='Triyun' timestamp='1343188412' post='3014734'] So Zoot, can we make a poll about how much we all hate me? Seriously this is getting damn stupid. [/quote] Is there a despise option? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Nathan Brittles Posted July 25, 2012 Report Share Posted July 25, 2012 You're taking some liberties with the latitude given here in CNRP. There is no RP reason I can see for the references and discussions regarding rape and it will cease right now. It's uncalled for and unnecessary and you're better than that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Californian Posted July 25, 2012 Report Share Posted July 25, 2012 [quote name='Maelstrom Vortex' timestamp='1343188686' post='3014737'] Triyun: You are not worthy of my hate, only my exasperation. But I suppose you could make a poll for that. There is only one entity in all of space/time that is worthy of my hate and some people say it doesn't exist. [/quote] How dare you talk about Santa Claus like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isaac MatthewII Posted July 25, 2012 Report Share Posted July 25, 2012 I had no idea the mere mentioning of the word was against the rules Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Enema Posted July 25, 2012 Report Share Posted July 25, 2012 (edited) had to retract my original comment due to the warning which I saw after I posted. I say do awayall with preplanning, yall carry on now. Edited July 25, 2012 by Tidy Bowl Man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Nathan Brittles Posted July 25, 2012 Report Share Posted July 25, 2012 [quote name='Isaac MatthewII' timestamp='1343192122' post='3014804'] I had no idea the mere mentioning of the word was against the rules [/quote] Oh please. It had gone well past the mere mentioning of the word. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Enema Posted July 25, 2012 Report Share Posted July 25, 2012 Captain Brittles, Your mod name brings back memories of the first time I saw She Wore a Yellow Ribbon, with John Wayne. My father beat the crap out of me for tripping over the power cord which cut off the telly, well not literally beat the crap out of me but it got a bit hectic there for a minute with me fleeing from a John Wayne Crazed Fan. http://www.warnerbros.com/movies/home-entertainment/she-wore-a-yellow-ribbon/3cba8c60-0f56-48ba-b13f-1203089b19d9.html Here is a link for you pig ignorant swine who have not been graced with all things great and John Wayne. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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