Krashnaia

[quote name='King Penchuk' timestamp='1323967469' post='2878900'] I just wanted to say that Allah is not real and if he was he would be greatest jerk of all time. [/quote] That "Allah" guy wouldn't be even close in jerkiness to SuperFriends.

[quote name='hizzy' timestamp='1323743670' post='2875964']thanks for letting me know I was broke. If only you would have told me this 2 days ago I would have not wasted money on building up 1k infra and 75 tech just to nuke one of your friends for !@#$% and giggles. But hey, someone did collect intel on me not long ago, why dont you go ask them how broke i am?[/quote] Yep, you got back some financial status when you began to receive aid packages a month or two ago. Your foreign aid screen still shows it. Too bad I didn't make some screenshots back then when more money offers where on the board. Still, there are enough to prove my point. Anyway, the terms of the debate are, basically: - You claim to be a hero for having been raping newbies with your 4-years-old nation for more than half a year. - I claim that we just use you for newbie testing. Neither conclussion leaves you in any good light. The former means you are just a bully and someone with enough lack of life to invest months and months of his life in abusing newbies. The latter means that, also, you are working for us, since thanks to you we can know whose newbies have balls and whose don't.

[quote name='MaGneT' timestamp='1323747100' post='2876044'] Oh, you. Can you even read? Would you like me to link you to a 90 page thread detailing why you're being curbstomped - or is that PR trauma still fresh in your mind? [/quote] So, you seem the type that thinks that trash-talking people makes you right. The answer is not, it only makes you inmature. You pal there said it: "[i]This probably could of been avoided from the level that it has gotten to if CSN would of manned up on their pride and actually did something right from their own doing then running around asking "What can we do?" DT doesn't want to tell you want to do to make things right. Show us that you know what is the right thing to do.[/i]" I suppose one option would have been to buy you off, lick your boots and become your meatshields, like Legacy did. Another option could have been to return the reps and an "I'm Sorry" from Liz? I'd like to know if it would have been, and hence my previous question. I'd appreciate a mature anwser instead of your childish attemp at humiliating people with witty pics.

[quote name='Myworld' timestamp='1323729692' post='2875698']Your gov members had many opportunities to rectify the situation they created from the last war. They came to DT's forums 4 or 5 months after it all happened once they realized that SF was in deep crap and their PR was no longer what it was. They stated that they wanted to make things right. They asked us how that could be done. I stated clearly. "Don't ask, but do." If they really wanted to make things right then they will know how to make things right. We got a reasonable sorry from SoM who really got dumped a bad task to try to fix. We asked for the rest of gov to come over and show us that they wanted to make things right. Well that didn't go over so well, and pretty much lead to nothing from CSN to make things right. All we asked was to figure out for yourselves that you knew what happened and knew how to correct it. CSN failed.[/quote] So, basically, you are saying that the whole reason for curbstomping CSN is that Liz didn't went to your boards to say "sorry"?

[quote name='Myworld' timestamp='1323731217' post='2875726'] Nope, haven't paid him one dime.[/quote] His foreign aid screen says otherwise. It's pointless for you to lie when anyone can check it with a right-click.

[quote name='Myworld' timestamp='1323728350' post='2875672'] So I have you to thanks for setting up your initiation program with Hizzy and him sending out tech elsewhere. I'll actually say thanks for that [/quote] You are paying him for tech-deals, as his foreign-aid screen shows. So it's logical that he sends tech you back, doesn't it? I mean, you aren't generous enough even to give him the money for free.

[quote name='hizzy' timestamp='1323714943' post='2875367']So CSN's training is to wait around until I declare war on you, then mishandle the aid you're sent (which is rare to receive in the first place), and give it all back to me anyways, and then beg for peace? Then after the war ends, continue to sit around without growing so that you can get tech raided again and again by the same guy? No wonder your NS chart is the steepest cliff in the game right now.[/quote] Let's check some of the nations that you have bravely attacked all those months: - Jd252, currently at 8,200 NS - Waldo666, currently at 18,200 NS - pjy01, currently at 10,800 NS - bobo t baggins, currently at 7,800 NS You: 3,919.366 NS, and, [url="http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display_charts.asp?Nation_ID=57567"]as your nation history chart shows[/url], you have been able to leap beyond 2,500 NS only thanks to the foreign aid packages you have recently been sent. So, as you can see, your "victims" have been able to grow well beyond your NS attack range, while you stay as a broken nation unable to hit anything but newbies. Hence, facts prove that your statement above doesn't exactly match reality. [quote name='hizzy' timestamp='1323714943' post='2875367']Do you realize I've been tech raiding CSN and sending that tech back to DT for the last 9 months? I've been having my way with you and yours and until your alliance surrenders to me personally I will continue tech raiding and stopping you from recruiting new nations.[/quote] As anyone can see from your nation's foreign aid screen, you are actually getting paid for the tech you are giving. In my town we call it "tech deal", not "stealing tech and then generously giving it to DT". Additionally, the fact that your sympathizers need to send you money in order for you to be able to keep waging war, is a clear indicator that your view about the results of "your war" doesn't exactly match reality. So, please, by all means, keep investing months and months of your life in working as our newbie trainer for free. We all in CSN are grateful to you for it.

edt:bah

[quote name='zzzptm' timestamp='1323697741' post='2875211']You're killin' me, Krashnaia![/quote] Not my fault if you decided to pre-empt us when I was in dove for reasons unrelated to Bob (you may notice that some days before, when DH raided, I was in full war mode). In any case: - 20 out of 56 nations in DT are in peace mode. - 6 out of 96 nations in CSN are in peace mode. I mean, you attack with a 3-to-1 advantage and still need to hide almost half your Alliance in Dove. That's Ok, tactics and such. But do not talk big here about Peace Modes, man. I'll go out of dove as soon as you take out of dove all those yummy high-infra/low-tech nations you hid. Maybe. In the meantime, I'll be glad to know that the threat of my lone nation in PM is keeping 20 DT's in dove.

[quote name='Sarmatian Empire' timestamp='1323693203' post='2875162'] Maybe you dont understand the concept of war, you take everything you can get. Maybe youll recall the last war when csn saw an opportunity to take advantage of DT? How soon you forget the crimes you committed. On another note o one is doing this to be brave or righteous. We don't want bob to see us as some holy hero. We all have a common goal and that is to watch CSN burn. It is a simple matter of revenge [/quote] Hey, dude, just remember that my signature is not present in [url="http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=99275"]DT's surrendering[/url], validating Legacy from grabbing 10k out from DT and walking away with a smile. Yours? Was. So, think twice before breaking in the Forums to talk Big about "our" crimes, Revenge and Righteous Justice. DT can pull that, it's their grudge match and all that. But you look quite funny doing so.

[quote name='AlmightyHero' timestamp='1323692311' post='2875156'] [b]we[/b] beat up on DT months ago and demanded reps when [b]we[/b] had an advantage, and now they are just returning the favor when they have the upper hand. [/quote] Corrected it for you. Since you were in CSN at the time, you are as much responsible of that affair than I'm. Well, in fact we both are less responsible of that affair than, for example, Sarmatian Empire, since at least my signature was not stamped in [url="http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=99275"]DT's instrument of Surrender[/url]. So, DT, yeah, no problem, we were asking for it, too. But, Legacy? RoK? no, borther, we'll take no Righteous Justice talk !@#$ from them.

[quote name='Sarmatian Empire' timestamp='1323691741' post='2875151'] We had nothing to do with DH attacking you. In fact it upset quite a few of us. They opened a good opportunity though and I dare you not to take advantages of opportunities in life and we'll see where it gets you. [/quote] So, a 3-1 advantage is not "opportunity" enough for you to feel comfortable? Good to know you fear us that much. --- PD: So, it's confirmed, then. DT-RoK-Legacy attacking at the last update in which they could take advantage of the effects of DH's tech raid, was not a coincidence. They did it on purpose. Clever, but distasteful in my oppinion.

[quote name='Mesteut' timestamp='1323671305' post='2874942'] If only there was a final solution option for your nation... [/quote] There was. We made him part of our Academy Taining. And he works for free.

[quote name='Alfred von Tirpitz' timestamp='1323690004' post='2875134']Think of it as good times for your academy level nations. It is more a service than a nuisance.[/quote] Specially when, at that level, it's cheaper for us to reconstruct the lost infra, than for him to purchase and launch a nuke. And our newbies got to keep the war experience. Since he has been broke since may or june (if my memory serves), he can't do much more. Hizzy has beome long ago into something like an initiation rite for CSN. "[i]Ok, so you want to join CSN? Allright, here you have a 3kk aid package and some instructions about how to wager war. Now we'll throw you to the pit with the mad cow. Survive one week and you are in.[/i]" Looking at the big picture, Hizzy basically burnt a 4-years-old nation and invested 10 months of his life to become... a training tool for CSN newbies. Quite pathetic, if you ask me.

[quote name='Clash' timestamp='1323690026' post='2875135'] Let's state another truth, current according to in-game stats. [/quote] Don't forget to add that they needed DH to make a blitz to anarchise half our alliance before they got the guts to declare.

[quote name='hizzy' timestamp='1323670732' post='2874937'] As a man who's been at war with CSN for... what? 10 months now? I can safely say that being skillful is not a prerequisite to having one's way with CSN. I only wish women gave it up as easy as CSN does. [/quote] Bold talk for someone who was ZIed and Broke, has been just harassing newbies for the last couple of months, and failing even at that.

Mmmhhh... looks like RoK fears a 3-1 advantage is not good enough for them, and are looking to drag their protectorates into it?

[quote name='Sarmatian Empire' timestamp='1323646124' post='2874353'] You caught me [/quote] Don't worry. I follow a policy of "Catch and Release".

[quote name='Sarmatian Empire' timestamp='1323644091' post='2874329'] The CSN of the One Vision war is not the CSN of today [/quote] A convenient excuse for a turncoat.

The only complaint I have, is that DT&all should have waited one or two days more, so that the effects of the anarchies caused by DH's tech raid had wore off. Instead of attaking in, like, the last update in which you could take advantage of it. It's a clever tactic, to hit us when half our alliance has been already anarchised by the big dudes. But I thought you wouldn't want to stain your Grand Vengeance with such pettiness.

Pretty much this. +1

[quote name='Sniper Joe' timestamp='1323553767' post='2872871']OOC: To answer your question, Xiph should have to play a full game of EU3 (1399-end) as the Byzantine Empire or some one province minor all the way through on the highest difficulty without cheats and without getting destroyed. If he fails, he can try again.[/quote] Just having to play a full game of EU3 is enough. Forcing him to play a one-province-minor would be, in fact, the only way you could prevent him from dying out of boredom after the first 100 years of game.

[quote name='SpacingOutMan' timestamp='1323390390' post='2869859'] Rotavele: we surrendered. [/quote] Really? Aren't we going to nitpick around it, NSO-style? [img]http://profile.ak.fbcdn.net/hprofile-ak-ash2/276821_259863564057214_906601031_n.jpg[/img]

[quote name='LittleRena' timestamp='1323389794' post='2869832'] Isn't that what cowards do? Act tough when the odds are on their side but back down after less than a day when they know they will lose. [/quote] No, it's what victims of a tech-raid do: Shove it and peace out.

[quote name='James Dahl' timestamp='1323388423' post='2869739'] I don't think MK has any principles to contradict. Whatever is most convenient at the time is what they believe and have always believed, until next week. [/quote] You and the Aloha guy above nailed it.