Grossman

ok......what kind of booze? open bar?

MK has always been pretty win, it's good to see there growth and leadership always growing. o/ MK

Green is a great choice, I can't wait to see a UJA application... o/Viridia always.

looks like rv is bored, sorry ifok. o/ green

Good point, I was assuming that the relationship would be duly researched and committed before upgrade. I'm hoping the upgrade happens ASAP because I'm hoping the friendship quickly develops. green is green

Yeah not just "around" but mattering for years. And I guess I would tell him that I was an upstanding member of OV since before the war and that I have nothing but respect and friendship for 'em from my first hand experience. The words are wise in that GGA does have a history, but if you go and look at it it seems GGA is constantly, but slowly evolving for the better. It really isn't the old GGA that RI remembers I think, that slow evolution has been showing results for a while is continuing to. These treaties (OV and MASH) are testimony to that. GGA has also been a long standing partner in green and UJA. They have been there with OV since they put in their application. If anything this treaty is overdue and should be upgraded asap imho. Edit: Thanks btw BK.

You might want to actually get to know GGA and MASH before you go spouting off like that. Just sayin' I don't slam your folk w/ out knowing them at all just for giggles....

I find the irony of the haters hilarious in this thread. Your hating on us for making a good move basically. Random Interrupt I have no idea why you would chastise the GGA and OV for making friends within their own sphere, taking action to solidify that friendship, and then growing it. o/ Green... guess that's all I have to say about that. OV is good people and GGA has been changing for years, this was kind of just the next step in our progression. Question the friendship all you want, I have no doubt that it is an earnest and honorable friendship, and my actions will show that... just as GGA's have. GGA government continues to impress me with their foreign affairs moves in the last month or so, I can only applaud and continue to publicly endorse. If you have a problem w/ this treaty feel free to PM me if you'd like to engage me in some friendly banter. My enthusiasm flowith over it seems. o/ OV! o/ GGA! o/ Green!

I'm not surprised to see GGA's mofa at the bottom of this move. Momonishiki was probably the arcitect of this friendship for the most part, but it's one I can't support more whole heartedly. Good promotion, great treaty, watch out it's not the same old gga. Watch out it's not the GGA you used to know and is taking the final steps it needs to to be "one of the good guys" whatever that means now a days in cn. MASH is awesome this treaty is sweeeet. I agree w/ him, the posts do show that he wasn't saying that.

I hope nso gets stomped for this if they can't figure out how to make it right, this doesn't do it for me. I hope all green does the stomping collectively. It's what I hope.

o/ green, seems like a bad play nso

sexy treaty o/ Viridia

Edit: I'll edit this. So I won't say what I said before, but just because you say that this is a black and white coin/flip thing doesn't mean it is. It doesn't work like that, the world is not absolutes. The NPO may have been peacekeepers in good faith and wanted by the majority of the people on bob.... some of the time. How often of the time they were on the right side of those "peacekeepings" is subject to well... Karma it would seem. Learn this lesson... what NPO did was not peacekeeping, if you think it is then you have failed to understand what they did and/or what peacekeeping is.

How come it's bloodlust to exterminate the most violent and warlike alliance in the history of Bob? Couldn't you claim peacekeeping? Maybe there new charter should be like Japans and have an article 9 declaring them unable to have a military forever and be pro-peace. They did that to the GPA you know. They neutered the neutral alliance that had never been in a single war ever. Never put an alliance out of existence, never did half the many wrongs P has done. It's not bloodlust to want 'em wiped off bob, it's kind of reasonable. They shouldn't be pzi/ezi, just neutered. They can't handle the power. They always abused it, and usually for bad or flimsy reasons. Mostly for fun I imagine. So these terms... don't do any of that they allow P to continue. Seems mighty mighty kind to me considering the long history of just insane sh*t NPO has pulled on bob. If they had to write an honest book about what as an alliance P was guilty for they would fill more pages than any other alliance, they would fill volumes of books.

Yeah it's a reference to my enduring pro-GPA sentiment. I know that's a little hard to understand, but it is what it is. Humor me. No it would not be ok, I would be against it but hell others have done it and there's really not much you can do about it if your against ezi or pzi. Maybe it would be ok if they really changed. Deeds speak louder than words. If they re-named themselves w/ new core ideals and asked for another chance and mixed up their leadership again... yeah that would be at least worth giving a chance imho. I don't think they are even mildly interested in that. I didn't know mary was next in line. Very interesting. Edit: Is there any talk of moo leaving? I thought that was not really a possibility do to his seemingly insane popularity.

If you ask me the terms are generous. If I was still w/ OV I would be asking for P's complete dismantlement. That's what is actually the reciprocal action for all the crap they pulled on bob. No perma zi, and I'm sure they'd just start a new alliance w/ the same folk but... I'd have asked for the name to be banished from the land for all the evil and obvious wrong they did. except mary... or any other xgpa still over there. Edit: and mob

Yeah I guess I agree with all of that, but it still doesn't make absinthe the drink of green.

gpa gave up neutrabrau? that's silly. That's the beer of green imho, + you didn't get GGA so it doesn't count.

I don't think this could have possibly been an easy choice for GGA. They have rolled w/ P since time immemorial. Where's bilrow in this thread? In any case.... Good luck GGA, I feel like every week I'm writing about how GGA is turning it around and a quality group. They have been for a long time, and I'm proud to have you guys on green w/ us.

o/ Viridia... now and always.

Good to see green getting better. This looks like a good group with a plan. Good luck gents.

I quote this because I hope it as well.

o/ GGA. o/ Athens The terms are fine, they're kind in fact. GGA is focusing itself on priorities, and this just wasn't one of them.

GGA proved they were the real deal when they canceled ALGAE and helped VE back. They still have a way to go in some people's eyes, but in mine they just keep building the faith. They have done many things right since Bilrow left. I don't know how the two are connected, I just know that it's true. GGA would be a great place for a new nation on green to start in my opinion. o/ GGA

Well Played.