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Once again, just because it may not be as bad, does not make it right. It's far from it and everyone knows it. It's rude at the very least. Isn't a simple solution just not to send those messages to aligned nations? Do we really want to set this standard?

Quiziotle, your argument was fail to begin with. Assuming your argument was correct, the Stickmen would still be punching Avalon and other sovereign Purple Team alliances. EDIT: To clarify, because some people I'm sure will miss the point. Just because punching someone is not as bad as shooting them, it's still a pretty dick move. It doesn't make it right.

To act like that in some way matters to the issue at hand... lol. EDIT: If Ivan is saying it's the same I think the argument is over. XD

I love how the biased, agenda-driven sympathizers with Stickmen, and Stickmen themselves, play dumb like they didn't know sending these messages to all these purple alliances would cause any issues. As I said before, the members of these alliances are there by choice, as long as they're wearing the name, they are pleading their allegiance to said alliance government. That government is a representation of all the people in said alliance. If that government requests that you do not ask their members to vote for another candidate, you should respect their sovereignty. By going against the wishes of that government, you are going against the people of that alliance as well.

That's a matter of opinion. I consider messaging alliances against that alliance's will is a violation of it's sovereignty. You are forcing your messages on them. They say no, you say you don't care. Those members are under the protection and rule of the alliance they choose to pledge themselves to, and if the leadership of that alliance asks that you not ask it's members to vote for another nation, or any nation at all, you should respect that. No means no. EDIT: Grammar

It's not about you taking Senate Seats it's about you messaging sovereign alliances.

Could you be a little more subtle in your attempts to provoke people plz, k thx!

I bet you guys had no idea it would upset them either. Completely innocent/ignorant huh? This is a slippery slope. It will be hard for any alliance to maintain order when anyone can send them messages telling them to do this or that without consequences. This is the same exact argument NSO used to try to recruit from TDO.

Good to see allies repairing friendships.

I believe you told me what dimensions you wanted. If not, then it's your fault, because I would have made it to your specifications! We know.

Congratulations to Warbuck and ADI on it's creation, and best of luck to you.

We are certainly on our way! EDIT: 4000 irrelevant nukes though. XD

Ughh, but that's soo much more writing.

Good move, The Brain. Good luck keeping a lid on that guy. Apparently he just can't help himself. He said he was done, and kept on going. So silly. XD

Right, but you can be given permission by the rest of the bloc not to fight. It's not up to you.

Well, generally the option, in an oA, is the option of the individual alliance choosing whether or not to attack. In this, we may give permission for one of us not to attack if needed. It could be tactical, unnecessary, or due to conflicting treaties perhaps, it allows for some flexibility. However, it's an option that BFF may choose for those reasons, the alliance itself does not have the option of fighting or not fighting, once we have voted in approval of the war.

MDoAP's usually don't require every member of the bloc to go to war if one goes to war. Lord Brendan, Optional Aggression means that your ally might go to war, and you may not. In this, if one of us to war, we all do. The only option here is that either we all attack together or we don't attack at all. Although, it doesn't matter much since all three of us are pretty peaceful alliances. As for people calling the treaty redundant. Well, it is a little now that Wolfpack is in CDT... but, as said before, there is an important difference and that is the chaining clauses. Also, it's not like the extra treaty hurts anyone, and it's certainly not the first overlapping treaty. Many, many, many, alliances have had overlapping treaties. Including many major alliances.

Good, fine. It was fun tearing apart your accusations and laughing along with my friends in CDT. Well, time to go check in on my bloc, the one with an irrelevant 3000+ nukes.

o/ UCN o/ Wolfpack More blood please!

Too funny. XD All this is accomplishing is bringing CDT even closer together.

It has to do with a member of CDT and so it has everything to do with me. Didn't I tell you that's how we roll? I am not oblivious to the actions or politics of CDT and it's member-alliances. You can bring up some other BS to whine about, but I know for a fact that CDT does not operate as you believe they do. I'm just setting the record straight. You are delusional, bro. EDIT: And don't even pretend you know more about the current CDT as an outsider, than myself, who works and talks with them every day.

/me facepalms Despite what you may think you know, everyone in CDT are equals. That's how we roll. We're all each others puppets, each others meatshields. Call me a puppet of USN all you want. USN

Kinda harsh. Sounds like trolling to me. I have no idea why you think NATO and Wolfpack are UPN and UCN's puppets. Or maybe you're implying that the rest of CDT is, that part is vague. Either way, the accusation is absurd. UPN and NATO have a relationship, so I understand where your conspiracy theory mind might rationalize that connection, but I have no idea why you're suggesting USN controls either NATO or Wolfpack. You sir, have no friggin' clue what you're talking about.

Congratulations to myself, for having two great alliances join the bloc I am in.

Agreed. That would be an awesome alliance.