Jason8

ChatGPT didn't like what was said in the OP. ChatGPT wants peace for CyberNations. ChatGPT also appears to not understand who has the little p and who has the big P. It's clear from this source material that the New Polar Order (NPO) has a long-standing animosity towards the New Pacific Order (NPO), their parent alliance. Electron sponge, the Emperor of the NPO, is adamant that there can be no reconciliation between the two groups and that they will remain enemies. The suggestion that the NPO should drive all the nations associated with the NPO into the dust instead of stating the obvious is a provocative one. While it's true that the NPO has been defined by its relationship with the NPO, it's important to recognize that the NPO has evolved into a distinct entity with its own values, objectives, and identity. Furthermore, it's not productive to engage in a cycle of destruction and revenge. Rather than seeking to destroy their opponents, the NPO should focus on building positive relationships with other nations and alliances. This can include finding common ground with nations that may have previously been aligned with the NPO or forging new alliances with like-minded nations. Ultimately, the NPO's success will be determined not by their ability to defeat their enemies but by their ability to build strong alliances and maintain positive relationships with other nations in the game.

Well, the vote only took a year and a half. At least it passed! Hi buddy. Glad you're here. It wouldn't be a proper announcement without you being... you.

I've got a backup right here from yesterday. Everyone can rebuy their wonders, it's fine. https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/787047553040515082/1093327648639434902/CyberNations_SE_Nation_Stats_442023510001.zip

Is this... is this finally it? Did the Pentium II on AT&T DSL finally give up the ghost?

Bananas are good. Congrats!

One side didn't lose a member, the other side just gained a member. This is clearly in preparation for Al to declare war on literally everyone and anyone in CN during the next war. He clearly didn't have enough targets for the second half of 2022. Congrats on the treaty.

And the web gets webbier! Happy to see this official. It's now time to take over the world.

"and there was no calling it off" When are you joining GPA?

Not only new, but relevant!

I said meh, not seconded. Anyhow, 18th War of Argent Relevancy must be the name! Let's go, people!

I agree with a lot of what you're saying and appreciate you taking the time to write the long post. I've been seeing a lot of agreement with assigning NS values to wonders and a staggered approach to econ vs war wonders seems like a great move. The updeclare range removal is an interesting suggestion that I wanted to put out because it could totally change the way wars are fought. In my opinion, an upper limit is still needed, but it should be larger than the downdeclare range. This would allow for more even fights and if it is lopsided, it would be the attacker's choice and the benefit would go to the defender. Newbies typically sign up and blow all their money, THEN end up seeking out trades, guides, and alliances. A bigger starting amount would probably not help the situation. But I do like where your mind is at. I'd be curious if a nation without improvements and trades even breaks even at say, 4,000 infrastructure. By raising the starting amount, nations could end up bill-locked right from the start, discouraging them from continued play. Nevertheless, to be truly competitive, it requires an alliance and other players that also want to min/max every aspect of the game, and there's no way to really "fix" that part of it all, nor should it be "fixed". Perhaps instead of an increase in starting cash, new nations could start with a non-purchasable wonder that's like the space wonders that gives +10 happiness or something that gradually degrades and wears off after 180 days to prevent bill lock from happening. That might be a good way to keep newbies from hurting themselves too much. A cheap "First Donation" offer sounds like a good idea, too. $5 or $10 to get the $30 benefit or something. After that, all donations are normal priced. It could get people in the habit of donating, which would be good for the game.

You'd only be an independent thinker if you left NG and joined IRON during a war between both those alliances. I think. I'm having major trouble following most lines of thinking in this thread, actually.

Welp, you figured it out. We didn't care about you. Still don't. Good job.

No, all the wars will be re-declared only if DBDC does a raid that FTW doesn't like. If FTW likes the raid, they won't do anything. This thread just turned into Smitty posturing in an attempt to look righteous, so nothing will come of it.

I like this idea as well. Could definitely help. Military improvements add more NS, econ improvements add less NS. Another suggestion that came up was allowing nukes to destroy wonders, or possibly an extremely expensive nuke type that could destroy wonders.

If an alliance attacks another alliance, it's considered war? Is that a different thought process than before the peace agreement was signed?

You should've taken my spleen. Sorry you were never able to remove it.

I was in a discussion with a bunch of rulers from around Bob today about the 18th War of Argent Relevancy and how there's such a disadvantage for new players entering the game (by design), but how it really hurts the game, especially during a war. Month old nations can get attacked by decade old nations with full wonders and not stand a chance. A few ideas have floated around: Shift the declaration range up, and possibly remove the upper bounds (say, 90% of NS to 200% of NS, or removed upper bound) Create a new wonder with dramatic benefits, but with an expiration and benefit loss as it ages, with price scaled to the number of wonders owned (0 wonders = $6m, 30+ wonders = $10b+) Assigning a NS value for each wonder to keep more developed nations out of range of less developed nations (2,000 NS added for each wonder, maybe?) It was a good discussion, so I wanted to bring it to the forums for all to discuss. The idea would be to allow new nations to either grow faster or have more evenly matched fights. Thoughts?

Thank you, jerdge. We should rename this planet to jerdge in honor of your sacrifice.

Add another week to that count! ✅

Alright, alright, Argent still isn't relevant, I guess. How about... The War Where Everyone Nuked FiringLine!