Magicman657

Edit- On second thought, let's not go there.

To be clear, I'm not as angry at Karma as I am at UF and/or IRAN. UF/IRAN (or at least one of them) made the mistake of assuming that 64Digits would do what they wanted us to without even asking me first (to surrender and merge immediately) and apparently relayed this sentiment to Karma. Not only did it show a lack of understanding of what we are all about, but it was particularly upsetting that they didn't even think to make sure this was acceptable to us before speaking on our behalf. Karma did not verify this prior to bringing us to peace talks. After the lack of communication was somewhat apparent, instead of first filling us in on what had occurred and actually giving us a chance to consider their offer, the immediate reaction was to try and kick us out instead. Forgivable? Probably. Professional? Not particularly.

You're being unreasonable. It's barely been a few hours. A lot of them are likely asleep. Not to mention they have enough crap on their plate as it is. Why is it so hard to accept that they do not exist to satisfy your desire for instant gratification and just give them a chance to get properly informed to make a rational decision first?

I'm fairly sure they were not even aware this was taking place so cut TPF a break. Give them time to figure it out before demanding an answer.

Yea, I just looked at your chest. Ouch. You can have some canned beets if your citizens need them though, I got plenty (but they're all green )

It should work, it's just slow. If it remains a problem I'll place them elsewhere.

So it has come to my attention that in the last hour we were asked to surrender. Apparently IRAN and UF decided to surrender to Karma and expected us to ditch TPF to merge with them. Here's the kicker though, they told us that they discussed a peace deal with people in our alliance in an attempt to make it sound legit when in fact nothing of the sort was ever brought to any of our attention. I was thrown into peace talks out of no where, lied to about the state of the agreement, and then expected to just simply agree to abandon our allies for no apparent reason. I find this state of affairs unacceptable. If someone wants to talk peace with 64Digits, then try doing it legitimately. Not that we have any intention of surrendering, as our loyalty to our allies is completely unwavering, but at least then it won't seem underhanded and forced down our throats. We also do not appreciate it when we're lied to either. So, I have a few messages that need to go out to all parties concerned. #1- 64Digits will never merge with any alliance(s) that would abandon its allies in times of great need. We've always stood for loyalty and bravery, so before you go thinking we're "blood brothers", perhaps you should reconsider where you stand. It's not too late to do the honorable thing and get back in there. #2- We would sooner face PZI than abandon our allies. TPF has been way more than good to us and we owe them everything. We will accept no peace until they do as well. #3- "Negotiating" peace through lies and half truths is despicable. While we were contacted about a merger, it wasn't to occur until after the war and there was never any mention of peace talks with us. Also, if you expect us to sign off on peace, instead of just trying to kick us out when we ask questions, you could try being upfront about the terms and status of things. Logs ------- Peace talks - http://!@#$%*.com/m35fd2acd The discussion referenced (you will notice there was never any mention of peace there) - http://!@#$%*.com/m57b061ac

The answer is they both are. An alliance leader should be doing just that- leading the charge into battle.

Surrendering is the coward's way out. Do your service to your alliance(s) and fulfill your commitment. Nothing personal against Karma or anyone else, but people need to remember that their alliance(s) look out for them 95% of the time, so when they ask members to pay their $1.05 in the few desperate times that they're needed, each person should remember that and return the favor. No matter what side you're on, fight on till the end.

Make us.

Our flag is small because I don't have the link for the larger one available right this second, our forums have had major issues over the last month or so which has made it difficult to keep track of stuff. Thus, in the interest of not impeding DoWs, we decided to just use the one that happened to be on hand.

For the good of all of us, except the ones who are CCC

Attention CN rulers: If your nation is a member of the Christian Coalition of Countries, you may expect a hail of gunfire from 64Digits for an unknown period of time. It is recommended for that you do not attempt to take cover as this could be dangerous to your nation. Please take as much damage as possible and everything will be fine. Thank you for your cooperation. ~Magicman657, Lead Programmer of 64Digits tl;dr- We <3 TPF, die CCC

Hi. I am looking for someone on the Blue Team who has both Lumber and Oil. If you meet this description, I strongly urge you to join our trade circle. (This means you must be willing to give up all current trades and replace them with new ones). We have Aluminum, Coal, Fish, Iron, (Lumber), Marble, (Oil), Rubber, Silver, Uranium, Water, and Wheat. This gives the following Bonus Resources: Steel, Automobiles, Beer, Construction, and Asphalt. This position will be open until otherwise stated in this post. If you are interested please PM me either here or in game: http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_d...ation_ID=112689 Thanks for your time

Figure out what it is that you want out of an alliance. Almost every (if not all) alliance will offer you protection from unwarranted attacks. Any of the top 150 alliances or so should be able to reasonably guarantee safety. If you doubt whether one can or not, look at their NS and also find out who they are allied with and who will help them. An alliance doesn't have to be giant to be safe, just smart.

I need to stock my nation full of tech, I'll buy as much tech as you are willing to sell. Both 1 time deals and repeated deals are welcomed, the more the merrier. I send you 3 mil, you send me 50 tech, then 50 tech again. Send me a message and I'll have the money sent within 24 hours or less. http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_d...ation_ID=112689

I have 94.60 happiness (that's with 30% tax rate and 5 labor camps, this is a general figure as to what I normally have, not purposefully inflated to be maxed). I have +2 from events right now.

64Digits is probably the most easygoing alliance you could ever hope to find and requires very little of its members. I couldn't really imagine myself anywhere else right now.

Has anyone noticed that the events are kind bad right now? Suppose you have an event. It's a bad one. And the chance of getting a good one to balance it out (or any event at all) is lower. Suppose you manage to get another event. And it's also a bad one. The percentage of getting any event at all keeps going down meaning you're more likely to keep just those bad events for a while and not have any more to try to balance them. I know this works both ways, but it doesn't matter as much if they're not killing your income (because less income can bill lock you, more doesn't do anything of that sort).

Land is worth a lot more than the tech stolen and can easily cost more than the infra because you can steal more land than destroy infra per day.