Mr Vicarious

It's a classic spoken riddle. A teapot contains tea, and the riddle plays off the homophone of tea and tee. As to the significance of a teapot, beats me.

Why not?

Failed to exist. The absolute minimum that an alliance has to do is exist. I'm making no claims about the current quality of those alliances. I'm saying that the fact that they exist makes them currently better than MK. Because MK doesn't exist. EvU has more political and military power right now than any of those alliances do. Because none of those alliances have any political or military power. They don't exist. The simple act of existing makes you an alliance, and says nothing about your quality. If you don't exist, you have no military or political power. The absolute minimum that you have to do to be an alliance here in CN is to exist. LUE also claimed to be disbanding out of boredom, history has decided otherwise. In a few months or a couple years, we will have a better idea of what the reasoning and consequences are of MK's disbandment. MK chose to surrender to all of those alliances. They decided, by ending the war with that surrender document, to acknowledge the contribution of all of those alliances in their surrender. Just as they chose to cease to exist.

If your alliance disbands, it clearly failed. I don't think anyone is disputing MK's various [b]past[/b] contributions to CN, both positive and negative. The fact of the matter is that they've now disbanded. All of those other alliance that haven't disbanded figured out a way to keep it together. You are arguing that not existing is better than existing for those alliances. I think that's a ridiculous statement. Very few alliances did anything against MK because NPO decreed that no one was allowed to hit MK. That has nothing to do with alliance quality. LUE disbanded after a losing war while claiming it was out of boredom as well. We'll see if these nations hang around as a group, or if they just fade away. As for the idiocy of forcing your allies to surrender to your coalition and putting your name on that document, you'll have to talk to NPO about that. I think the surrender document is pretty clear.

None of that has any bearing. Your motivations for taking the peace don't really matter here. If MK wanted to pick and chose who they surrendered to, they could have kept fighting. Instead, they signed a surrender document that includes alliances that they feel are beneath them. Now they've disbanded in the face of yet another beatdown. Their motivations for disbanding don't really matter, they are gone now. Bitching and moaning about how much better they were than those who beat them is just kind of silly and pathetic in the face of their disbandment.

You did manage to make an ally come begging for us to pretend you weren't negotiating on their behalf.

You could have kept fighting. You chose to take the incredibly lenient surrender terms, and part of that was surrendering to all of these alliances that you deem beneath you. Of those 6 alliances, none of them disbanded.

500 tech ~ 12 mil 400 infra ~ <1 mil 13 mil?

And yet you all signed that document.

You should settle down and pour yourself a nice glass of milk.

Congrats to our allies in NPL and our friends in MI6, with that fissile martini material we recommend stirring.

or an oD

At some point that answer has to be in enough places that everyone will have read it.

no, they aren't. This has been said at least 5 times by various members of TOP gov in at least 2 different threads (including MK's disbandment notice)

One might argue that an AA is whatever the world decides it is. Any debates about classification are usually decided on the battlefield or in the back channels and rarely through discussion on the OWF. At the moment, it seems that MQ's classification is still up in the air. We'll see if they have the political capital, military power, or longevity to have any say in that matter for themselves.

You seem incredibly upset about GOP choosing to hit MQ instead of DBDC and then their very shrewd choice to have VE back them up if you hit them from your DBDC AA. Doomhouse in general and MK and Umb in particular bent and twisted the norms of CN. Are you really bitching and moaning about another alliance making intelligent moves that allow them their best shot at achieving their goals? When you have to try to e-lawyer another alliance's treaties and charter, you've already lost.

Everyone knows it's an ostentation of rogues, not a collection.

I've been agreeing with you all too much lately

I believe TOP was very clear in their protection announcement that they would not be protecting nations on the MK aa who chose to declare war on TDO or others.

Congrats to our allies in NPL and our friends in LoSS, good to see this relationship formalized.

Is that like throwing a certain interception only to have it batted back into your own arms?

WTF aren't neutral, they just don't care.

I think you'd be rather surprised at WTF's response.

What about scrolling quote pyramids?

http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?/topic/114660-a-holiday-followup-from-your-friends-at-fark/