Vanilla Napalm

[quote name='Smithy' timestamp='1321528370' post='2845889'] Then perhaps you'd find it prudent, in the interest of delivering a decent argument, to revise your knowledge of such things before commenting on them. As for the treaty, this is great news for both alliances. I look forward to the next few weeks to see how things pan out for OcUK. [/quote] But that gets rid of half the fun of commenting upon whatever minor thing pops up! And really, i have far better things to do than research why some small alliance jumped on a cross for no real reason.

[quote name='Warzors' timestamp='1321522453' post='2845875'] This has never been the case. [/quote] [quote name='Vanilla Napalm' timestamp='1321504473' post='2845787']or something to that effect.[/quote] It has been three years man. I can't remember every little detail.

[quote name='johnathan buck' timestamp='1321502164' post='2845771'] Reason they are RoK Look up the war and how long they fought against them. [/quote] I do appreciate the fact, and actually remember something of it; i vaguely recall that they stayed at war because their charter precluded surrender or something to that effect. Funny how concepts come around again, except that in this case the alliance in question is lauded for their 'tenacity and loyalty', rather than being mocked for their 'stubbornness'.

[quote name='Schattenmann' timestamp='1321457500' post='2845525'] A spunky statement given GOONS's loss of [i]66 members[/i] and [i]flat NS since 10/2010.[/i] [/quote] [quote name='Schattenmann' timestamp='1321470345' post='2845582'] I simply find it funny that a goon would crack size jokes when they've lost [i]hundreds of members[/i] and [i]millions of NS[/i] in the past year. [/quote] Wait, what now? And it wasn't exactly a size joke, more an assessment of ocUK. Prior to this they hadn't been been heard of since their last treaty was cancelled two years ago and have been sitting on 11 members. It's entirely possible FAN is still looking out for them, but superficial analysis would assume they were just another dead in the water micro. But hey, at least they're off our raid list now i guess.

[quote name='Schattenmann' timestamp='1321422037' post='2845406'] Suck it, Doom House. Congrats, NPO. [/quote] I'd respond with a similarly caustic jive, but i imagine if i make too loud a noise you'll scurry into peacemode for another few months.

[quote name='Saniiro Matsudaira' timestamp='1321421303' post='2845400'] Congrats on this treaty, although I didn't even know OcUK was still around. [/quote] Judging by the fact that they have 11 members and haven't been heard of since the pocahontas treaty, i'd say they aren't around.

[quote name='herpderp' timestamp='1321262270' post='2844527'] Delicious NG tears in this thread. Please keep random sampling [/quote] Can you link me to this magical other thread brimming with NG tears? I'm assuming it isn't this one, unless you have some odd definition of tears.

[quote name='Charles Stuart' timestamp='1321269314' post='2844544'] You haven't the faintest idea what I am envisioning. If you did, you wouldnt be so smug. [/quote] Welp, that's it. Time to pack in the evil empire guys, this treaty upgrade was the last straw.

Despite being against Non Grata, this is the best thing. It really does serve to remind the public that the NEW's blithe approach to warfare is the best approach to warfare. Enjoy the casualties, gents. [quote name='Boogeyman657' timestamp='1321112877' post='2843729'] This is all Lord Nettles' fault. [/quote] Also this.

Good on you for trivializing a truly significant date. The nation of vanilla napalm puts more emphasis upon the traumatic day of september 11; that horrific day when so many needlessly perished when Mushroom Kingdom declared on NpO.

M6 Redneck: What the $%&@ are you doing not being in GOONS? You were fun when you were unjust!

[quote name='Prodigal Moon' timestamp='1320885612' post='2842427'] So if I'm reading this correctly: VE threatens a global war so Tetris can avoid abandoning an ally to the horrible fate of admitting defeat. [/quote] You're not reading this correctly.

Oooh, former home. Kinda. Hope they take the initiative and actually start doing some !@#$.

[quote name='Tygaland' timestamp='1320574946' post='2840153'] Except you accused the STA of being turncoats, duplicitous and errant popularity whores. None of which you have backed up with any evidence. You then tried to hide that inaccurate assessment with another painting the STA as residents in NpO's back passage rather than recant your initial inaccurate assessment. Speaks volumes of your character if nothing else. [/quote] The latter 'painting' does inform the former, if nothing else: It is occasionally difficult to differentiate between STA and NpO. Perhaps unfair, but considering you supported the OP in which GOONS was mistaken for a long-dead alliance, you can hardly censure me for an unfortunate oversight. [quote] I don't recall any particular concerns during the time we were treatied, there may have been some minor disagreements but nothing specific I can recall. Perhaps, if you have some specific examples of incidents I may or may not have objected to then I could pass comment on them for you. As far as MK's change of attitude, there are more things to a change of attitude than large incidents such as the one you mentioned. When you have been treatied to an alliance for some time you pick up on these things. A lot of people within the STA government and membership noticed it and it got to the stage where I spoke to MK's leadership directly to raise those concerns with them as any good ally would do. [/quote] A change of attitude can hardly call for the vitriol present within this thread. So other than "you've changed, man" what justification do you have for censuring them?

[quote name='Tygaland' timestamp='1320572637' post='2840143'] Ah, so you decided to cover up your initial inaccurate assessment by plonking another one over the top. I can't wait to hear what the next one will be. [/quote] Inaccurate assessment? I see a straightforward interpretation of causation (dropping NpO requires dropping of STA) followed by a general question. [Quote] During the time the STA was allied to MK they were not draconian and were respected allies of ours. When they started shifting away from that I approached them to ask what was going on and was intending to cancel the treaty myself if they could not assure me my concerns were unfounded. They assured me I was not reading things correctly so I left the treaty as-is only for them to cancel it without any warning a month or so later. We have not been allied to MK since that time and, as even Londo has pointed out, they have gone down a path that I don't agree with. I have not accused MK of having a habit of disregarding allies. The only thing I'd classify as disregarding an ally with respect to the STA and MK was when they cancelled our treaty without speaking to us before the cancellation was made public. Especially as we'd given them the courtesy only weeks earlier of discussion our concerns with them before we acted on anything. My issue is not with the cancellation as, looking at how things panned out, it would not have lasted much longer anyway. It was the manner in which it was cancelled. I hope that clarifies a few things for you. [/quote] Thank you for the answer. But if that were to be the case, wouldn't it be right to assume you had no concern over their actions prior to September 2010? Other than their participation in the Umbrella-planned preemptive strike against NPO, i can't exactly see how they have projected this new found malevolence following this date. Other than perhaps not being courteous with their treating of the STA treaty, of course.

[quote name='Tygaland' timestamp='1320570899' post='2840140'] Well, as I am certain the STA does not reside in the lower reaches of anyone's digestive tract I have to ask exactly whose colon MK were residing in and what relevance, if any, that had to the cancellation of the treaty between the STA and MK? [/quote] As MK in my analogy were the catalysts of treaty cancellation, it bemuses me to see them paradoxically interpreted as the recipient. Analogy can be tricky however, so i guess we can return to it at our leisure. A good question would be: Why, if MK are as apparently draconian as you consider them, would STA maintain an alliance with MK? If they have such a habit of using and disregarding allies, why would you have maintained it for so long a time?

[quote name='Tygaland' timestamp='1320569789' post='2840135'] Really? I'd love to hear how the STA were turncoats or duplicitous towards MK or errant popularity whores prior to their cancellation of our treaty. It is a thing of wonder to see someone wade in accusing someone of inaccurate assessments and then teeing off with one of their own. [/quote] Whilst i appreciate your point, To shed association with one gentleman would be pointless if at the same time they were to maintain a relationship with the creature buried deep within said gentleman's colon.

Soo... We have a thread made by someone who prior to this NSO-Legion war had never fought. He's making vague, inaccurate assessments against people. GOONS is in the list. A few once-allies/supporters of MK rush in to support this misguided assessment of MK as duplicitous. They miss the irony that they were dropped due to being turncoat, duplicitous $%&@s or errant popularity whores. Hegemonyhegemonykarmakarma. I enjoy these things, they serve to remind us all of the merits of being evil.

[quote name='Flonker' timestamp='1320465601' post='2839335'] I'm just wondering how much reps they expect to extort from us when this is all over. [/quote] Oh lord, No one deserves that. Trying to organise reps from Legion is too draconian to inflict upon any alliance.

[quote name='Alliance Affiliation: NpO' timestamp='1320464850' post='2839325'] ...You are two of the worst examples of acting with class. All you do is set other alliances is up. What a bunch of hypocrites. [/quote] Haha what? [quote name='Timeline' timestamp='1320463391' post='2839304'] It is nice to see MKO (Mushroom Kingdom Order) picking up where NPO left off. legion won this war, MK and Co are mad that Legion single handily slapped NSO and co around and stop the war getting bigger. All hail the secret police. [ooc] the secret police are the bullies who try to enforce their own law in the film V for Vendetta [ooc] [/quote] I'm sure that you're just pretending half the time. It is impossible to post this consistently awful without some keen sense of the absurd.

I can't believe the NPO-GOONS embassy wasn't mentioned. It is a beacon of hope in this dark world.

Umbrella disbanded two weeks ago...

[quote name='Conformist Maryland' timestamp='1320181124' post='2836692'] Shhhh. Please learn your history/pay attention before making dumb posts. Thanks. [/quote] To elucidate; i'm not speculating that they disbanded due directly to the last war. I'm saying that if an alliance can't even commit to its own decisions it can't be faring too well.

After this last attempt at war, i doubt anyone is particularly suprised. Good luck not fighting in your chosen alliances name elsewhere.

Nice to see fresh meat on the 'activate all yo MDPS polars $%&@ed up again' front.